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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:38 pm
by tutuu
nutella wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:33 pm @tutuu not sure I was ever totally clear on this, does your role explicitly say the mafia are greek, or is it more like just a parity check and you just pieced it together since kza was greek?

I just find it sorta weird that the role would tell you straight out like that idk
27/30

all mafia are the same nationality. im not told they're explicitly greek

running out of posts, i just wanna post this again:
tutuu wrote: Sat Jul 25, 2020 10:53 pm -Mafia!Benson will die right now.
-Mafia!Amy dies tommorrow.
-Colin can't be the last Mafia, because if he was, he would have killed WWH on N2.
-Mafia!iaafr gets caught by Hally as he is forced to kill WWH
-Mafia!Nanook gets caught by Town!Amy (barring an exception. would appreciate help if anyone can tell me if a Greek Classicism philosopher exists)
-Mafia!Nutella can't be the last Mafia if only 1 maf remaining, because she couldn't have shot her own teammate, Maf!MR. Like literally I'm assuming it's impossible.
-Mafia!Proto gets caught by Colin.
-Mafia!LC can't be the last Mafia if only 1 maf remaining, because then Hally's action of redirecting Mafia!MR's shot on Mafia!LC would have failed. It's how Hally's role works.
-WWH is always conf town.
-The only one not getting immediately outed if the last living Mafia is Hally. But more to that later:

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:39 pm
by nutella
Long Con wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:37 pm
protocultures wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:16 pm People prob lying about their roles a bit (even as town) so you may not get the mech confirms you want next day.
I have no lies to tell, only information that is mine alone, lest I end up like Dizzy. I actually thought I would have said a little more, but Dizzy's death was scary. I don't even know what he said that triggered it.
you can always ask tsp what you can and can't say

I believe I know what it was dizzy said that was illegal

the rules are pretty clear cut

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:40 pm
by nutella
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:38 pm all mafia are the same nationality. im not told they're explicitly greek

ok that makes more sense cool

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:45 pm
by Long Con
nutella wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:39 pm
Long Con wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:37 pm
protocultures wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:16 pm People prob lying about their roles a bit (even as town) so you may not get the mech confirms you want next day.
I have no lies to tell, only information that is mine alone, lest I end up like Dizzy. I actually thought I would have said a little more, but Dizzy's death was scary. I don't even know what he said that triggered it.
you can always ask tsp what you can and can't say

I believe I know what it was dizzy said that was illegal

the rules are pretty clear cut
There's nothing that I really need to say - nothing that would change our plans or anything. I might have just given a little more so that I'm not such a giant question mark out here.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:32 pm
by ColinIsCool
I did whatever you told me to do

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:38 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
It makes so much more sense to me to track Hally and peek Nutella. Getting a result on Hally is so, so good for the game imo

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:52 pm
by Hally
this is my last post but yea i support me getting checked or tracked because i think removing the tinfoil around me/nut/lc is pretty critical

anyway i will be checking the thread still so if what i’m meant to do changes at all ping me and i will change my action

if not see you on the other side

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:05 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Like the benefits of Hally being tracked and Nutella being peeked are huge, a green on either one pushes the game pretty close to an actual lock mech solve.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:05 pm
by tutuu
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:38 pm It makes so much more sense to me to track Hally and peek Nutella. Getting a result on Hally is so, so good for the game imo
Track hally and then what? Confirm them as redirector? I believe theyre mechanically confirmed redirector of some alignment regardless, i thought out loud about it earlier. Please, let us clear proto of the tinfoil. Yall say how proto obviously should have been the yeet over benson, why back down

Hally maf leads to 2 living maf worlds. Thats why im not clearing them from the 1 living maf world. Like if it gets there they would get the yeet regardless (imo)

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:07 pm
by ColinIsCool
I have a new idea: the remaining mafia come clean and surrender

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:08 pm
by Long Con
ColinIsCool wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:07 pm I have a new idea: the remaining mafia come clean and surrender
Ok, fine, I am - HEYWAITASECOND!! :evileye:

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:11 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess 🤷‍♀️

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:16 pm
by tutuu
29/30

I did say later its a mistake for me to peek hally yes, since there are 2 chinese claims and they can redirect me to proto, and nutella being the only living german claim makes it better

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:21 pm
by ColinIsCool
Well idk if I can change my action? Soooooooooooo

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:21 pm
by nutella
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:11 pm I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess 🤷‍♀️
I respect that you're better at this than me but I fail to see the logic in tracking hally lol, like tutuu said they could do the redirect and still be mafia, if they're mafia you could get the kill I guess but i think they're only ever mafia with LC or Colin and the other one would just do the kill. whereas with tracking proto he supposedly has no action left so if he does anything it's the kill right? plus if colin is hally's teammate he'd just lie about that track? idk i guess i'm just missing something but whatever I'm not going to make any kind of calls here

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
nutella wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:21 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:11 pm I mean uh there’s a bit I’m not saying but I think it’s strictly better to track Hally and peek nutella, either trust my ability to solve games mechanically or don’t I guess 🤷‍♀️
I respect that you're better at this than me but I fail to see the logic in tracking hally lol, like tutuu said they could do the redirect and still be mafia, if they're mafia you could get the kill I guess but i think they're only ever mafia with LC or Colin and the other one would just do the kill. whereas with tracking proto he supposedly has no action left so if he does anything it's the kill right? plus if colin is hally's teammate he'd just lie about that track? idk i guess i'm just missing something but whatever I'm not going to make any kind of calls here
This gets into the “bit I’m not saying” kek

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:47 pm
by nutella
would a track on a redirector just return the primary target, or both targets? I've been sort of assuming the former but actually have no idea

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:54 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I assume just first target, that’s how I’ve seen it done in the past anyways

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:20 pm
by WerewolfHunter
3

I believe you could switch the night actions

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 6:35 pm
by Long Con
Me too

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:45 pm
by Amy
submitting on nanook, someone ping me if this was in error

1/30

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:53 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
NIGHT 3:

*reserved for flavor I swear I'll add this at some point*

ColinIsCool has died! He was Albert Camus, TOWN.


Thread will be locked as I finish night clean up. When it opens, y'all will have 48 hours.

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Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
You may post.

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm
by tutuu
nutella is german. think we can wrap it up, gg

(dont quickhammer proto in case someone has a red peek but yeah nobody will have a red peek but yea just for protocol dont vote)

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm
by iaafr
maybe a hally frame idk i kinda settled back on wanting to kill amy and just follow the plan

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm
by nutella
well thats unexpected

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm
by iaafr
why proto over amy

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by Hally
that nk makes proto look bad because colin was meant to track him so only way proto could not be outed was to kill proto

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by Hally
kill colin i mean

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by tutuu
iaafr wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:01 pm why proto over amy
because colin was assigned to track him

it explains the n2 kill as well. tim was the only one sussing proto

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by nutella
Hally wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm that nk makes proto look bad because colin was meant to track him so only way proto could not be outed was to kill proto
tru

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:02 pm
by iaafr
oh

sure watever

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:03 pm
by iaafr
[VOTE: protocultures] aubergine

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:04 pm
by tutuu
thank god colin listened to tutuu GOAT and nutella GOAT and tracked proto instead of listening to nanook WOAT and tracked hally

:workit:

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:05 pm
by Hally
nut being v strongly indicates radishes w btw because of her role having increased hit rate for wolves

also the radishes v world required him to be town vig to account for lc’s vest breaking but now we know for sure town vig is nut so radishes kp was mafia kill

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:05 pm
by tutuu
altho to be fair tutuu WOAT for hammering benson over proto tommorrow

they were both VTs it was 50/50

i lost the flip and got hard pocketed. rip. sorry!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:05 pm
by iaafr
pretty sure if if its proto then if we listened to nanook and just hammered proto it was just over so

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:06 pm
by Hally
[VOTE: proto] aubergine

we can just hammer this

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:07 pm
by tutuu
technically amy might have a red peek on nanook!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:07 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
And you guys thought I was stupid for wanting to kill Proto first smh


There is another possibility here, that scum killed Proto cause checks are meaningless (i.e., there’s a godfather), but like...easy answer is more often the correct one imo


We should force Amy to clear me before hammering Proto tho just to make sure our bases are covered (although I don’t think faking a red buys Amy enough time anyway so maybe it doesn’t matter!)

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [NIGHT 3]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:08 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:04 pm thank god colin listened to tutuu GOAT and nutella GOAT and tracked proto instead of listening to nanook WOAT and tracked hally

:workit:
Either way Proto was dying today without a red on someone else :p

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:12 pm
by tutuu
like proto (if he's the scum) played a super good game u guys

me and dizzy and alison all townread him, and all of us played in his previous 2 forum mafia games

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:14 pm
by iaafr
i townread him too but I downtrended him d1

Benson, however, was in my top town the entire game

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:15 pm
by Hally
tutuu wrote: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:12 pm like proto (if he's the scum) played a super good game u guys

me and dizzy and alison all townread him, and all of us played in his previous 2 forum mafia games
it’s totally fine we didn’t kill him yesterday nw

also who knows he could be town

find it unlikely though

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:15 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean

I’ve seen him actually play scum and I had him as null so :p

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:16 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I mean honestly it’s not THAT unlikely that he’s town

But uh

The game is a lot fucking easier if he’s mafia kek

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:16 pm
by tutuu
i thought this is his 3rd forum game

oh so u must play with him on voice? yayyy!!!

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:16 pm
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:14 pm i find that protocultures post wolfy

too backseaty and not forceful

honestly proto's presence in general doesnt feel as forceful as what little i saw in space invaders...

linki: i think tim is town believing what he's writing though, and not w/w powerwolf with protocultures if protocultures w (and i might just be wrong in the first place)

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:18 pm
by Hally
i think the last wolf is probably exactly proto

don’t really think there is two left

what are the worlds with two that are even possible?

Re: Philosophers' Mafia [DAY 4]

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:18 pm
by iaafr
either way it's literally Amy or proto fmpov so yea w/e don't see how game gets hard if proto v