The Syndicate

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:20 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:18 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:16 am Rask = LPP, right?

Correct. We playdd that boomer game on MU earlier this year. I wolfsided D1 and Blade vigged me

Lolol I forgot about that game. What a disaster for town

I'm definitely partially to blame

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia

this would also explain w!hollowkatt's enthusiastic reply to scott's mech post

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:53 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:51 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

scotty's post about as many of the wolves as possible needing to survive until a certain phase to maximize kills is of interest when placed next to my wifom theory regarding dunia

this would also explain w!hollowkatt's enthusiastic reply to scott's mech post

i regret to inform myself that this world means scotty is town

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:04 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

This game is really messy for a lot of reasons if she is wolf. Too many people advocating her death that could be bussing, and then her spew and hard defending of others that also could be her partners.

If she is wolf, shes done a good job simultaneously throwing doubt about so many players and the behavior of said players makes it all that harder to sort

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:32 am Like holy balls TSP is the 5th highest poster and I don’t remember anything he’s said besides ‘dunya is bad’

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:38 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

shame.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:14 am Scotty, let's not call naa a game-throwing turd bucket.

I don't understand what he's doing with you either tbf

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:38 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:33 am w!dunia could pick someone besides scotty or lp for competing cases as a means of generating wifom

if she flips wolf, we'll spend future chops wasting them on scotty and lp because she advocated so heavily for their wagons to dissipate

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

shame.

Actually I am prolly wrong so nvm ( I thought you were baiting again using Jacks post)

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:47 am Jack and hk, since you're both here, can I hear your reads on Rask?

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:47 am

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:14 am Scotty, let's not call naa a game-throwing turd bucket.

I don't understand what he's doing with you either tbf

It’s a compliment. Think of all the flowers that could grow from him.

Regardless, my town read of him was hingeing on the idea that he believed what he was spouting about my tell. My digging into what he believes is my tell would tell me the truth of the matter.

Maybe I’ve missed it and it’s some bizarre puzzle, but I think it more likely that the whole thing was just a scheme for him to hide behind.
A) I get mislynched D1 because of it. NAA goes “oopsie! Add it to the statistics my bad”
B) I don’t get mislynched and I start to look like a less likely mislynch afterwards.

We’re in timeline B, and NAA just gets to shrug it off and do the bare minimum of reading people.

What other contributions has he made towards the solve of this game thus far?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:32 am Like holy balls TSP is the 5th highest poster and I don’t remember anything he’s said besides ‘dunya is bad’

This is honestly part of why Tony is always town, here.

As a wolf, I feel like Tony meanders a lot, blending in by not being blendy, if that makes sense. He's focused, here. He truly thinks he has correct reads on Dunya and myself. Wolf Tony doesn't have those surefire reads, especially on two players that are notoriously hard to yeet, where the flexibility of his vote could make a big difference in how the day goes.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:47 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:38 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:34 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:22 am

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am

i associate dunia's wolf game with a) an overarching agenda and b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

is the above significant enough to count as a?

a) is totes present in this game. A lot of Dunya's vote shifts have seemed agenday to me. Either to nudge things away from potential teammates (notably Scotty), towards potential misyeets (notably Wilgy) or just to change up the topic when things have settled down in a place that's bad for her (though tbf, there is motivation for that kind of switch as a townie). Like, the vote changes from Dunya don't feel like natural "I am a townie and I have seen a thing that causes me to change a read that causes me to change a vote" votes. They feel not like a good guy solving a puzzle but a bad guy making moves on a chessboard.

tbh I want to believe in this

I have something to say about this post, but not rn.

shame.

Actually I am prolly wrong so nvm ( I thought you were baiting again using Jacks post)

lol no, not baiting this time.

Where I'm at is either I'm super wrong on dunya or I'm super right and jack/tsp are super wrong. if I'm super wrong then dunya is a wolf and hooray. If I'm super right then it's very likely that Jack/TSP contains min one wolf which is also hooray b/c we have a really good place to start doing things.

Syn wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 5:49 am i associate dunia's wolf game with ... b) strategic usage of AtE and camaraderie to receive personality-based town reads

b was present, but a was not

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am A rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot)
Dya (as does this one)
Scotty
Dunia

Note how there is no light green, suggesting an uncanny amount of confidence in Jack's top 3 townreads and a large section of players he considers largely passive (at least when he's been online) in the yellow zone.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am A rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot)
Dya (as does this one)
Scotty
Dunia

Note how there is no light green, suggesting an uncanny amount of confidence in Jack's top 3 townreads and a large section of players he considers largely passive (at least when he's been online) in the yellow zone.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:52 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:36 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 8:32 am Like holy balls TSP is the 5th highest poster and I don’t remember anything he’s said besides ‘dunya is bad’

This is honestly part of why Tony is always town, here.

As a wolf, I feel like Tony meanders a lot, blending in by not being blendy, if that makes sense. He's focused, here. He truly thinks he has correct reads on Dunya and myself. Wolf Tony doesn't have those surefire reads, especially on two players that are notoriously hard to yeet, where the flexibility of his vote could make a big difference in how the day goes.

I am by no means a TonyStakPrime expert, but for someone’s mafia game to be pared down to 0’s and 1’s in that he “never has surefire reads” is pretty blasé. I would think wolf Tony could change up his game to a better extent than that

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 16, 2022 7:38 pm Also, I’d like to hear why everybody who has voted LP thinks LP is scummy.

Admittedly, I normally lock LP in as town (or so obvious town, she must die) very quickly (like 2/2 games we’ve played together). I haven’t done that here. But she’s also the popular CW to the player I want yeeted and nobody has said (that I’ve read) a reason to scumread her that is even marginally compelling.

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am But Jack! You didn't include Wilgy

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am But Jack! You didn't include Wilgy

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am But Jack! You didn't include Wilgy

Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am Your rainbow is also LP, Jack

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:54 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:51 am A rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot)
Dya (as does this one)
Scotty
Dunia

Note how there is no light green, suggesting an uncanny amount of confidence in Jack's top 3 townreads and a large section of players he considers largely passive (at least when he's been online) in the yellow zone.

I kinda wanna swap dya and dolby on your list but otherwise that's an accurate representation of where I've come to be. Yes that means I've flipped my reads on dunya and scotty mostly b/c I don't think those two can be town if you and tsp are town and if that world does exist the wolf team is going to be like Syn, Dolby, Rask or something completely fucked up like that.

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am HK will you marry me

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:58 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:55 am HK will you marry me

no sorry. I swore off marriage in 2013

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 11:00 am

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:59 am A better rainbow!
Jack
Tony
NAA
Syn
Marmot
Wilgy (largely a gamestate read that could change if Dunya is town)
LP (also a gamestate read that could change a LOT if Dunya is town because there is one compelling reason to scumread her, that she's not obviously town on her own merits)
Urist
Sig
Rask
Dolby
HK (this read has the potential to jump around alot because I don't think all of my oranges are wolves)
Dya (as does this one for the same reason)
Scotty
Dunia

In fact, all of my light greens and oranges are placed largely based on the certainty of my Dunia wolfread. A lot of stuff changes if she happens to be town, though I'm pretty damn sure she isn't.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:10 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:08 am This game is frustrating me to no end

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:44 am

Urist wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 10:43 am hi good morning
i've realized that dunya is town sorry for the confusion

ok, in your world do town jack and town tsp push town dunya as their preferred chop for today