The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:02 am**

Sorry, I forgot it's night 4.5...

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:04 am**

Which means, if someone dies again tonight, it's really crucial to make the right choice next day...

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:27 am**

And that choice is not me. Jimmy will confirm.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am**

DrWilgy
Kylemii
Dyslexicon
FZ.
JaggedJimmyJay
Marmot
Sloonei
DaveDaisy
novaselinenever
MacDougall

8 vs. 1 + 1.

Assuming a night kill of a civilian, we enter the next day at 7 vs. 1 + 1.

That's only two mislynches shy of MyLo. Thankfully the present POE is two people. I really don't understand why people are clearing Marmot when it looks to me like he raised the white flag to Epignosis, so he's staying square in mine.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am**

Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:55 am**

[mention]DFaraday[/mention],

For the Tzeitel role, are all votes placed throughout a full day phase considered, or only the votes present when the poll expires? Worded another way -- if someone has voted for Tzeitel and then changed that vote, leaving Tzeitel at zero votes when the phase ends, does the role's ability trigger?

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 pm**

[mention]Sloonei[/mention]
[mention]Dyslexicon[/mention]

speedchuck hated your guts just prior to his demise. Tell me why the other guy killed him.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:54 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:55 am @DFaraday,

For the Tzeitel role, are all votes placed throughout a full day phase considered, or only the votes present when the poll expires? Worded another way -- if someone has voted for Tzeitel and then changed that vote, leaving Tzeitel at zero votes when the phase ends, does the role's ability trigger?

Only votes which are in place at the end of the lynch affect Tzeitel's power.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:51 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:25 pm Sloonei
Dyslexicon

speedchuck hated your guts just prior to his demise. Tell me why the other guy killed him.

He was a near universal town read. Also, "kill anyone who suspects me" wouldn't have been a viable scum strategy for me early in this game.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:05 pm**

Yo Jimbo. I reckon if you search yourself you will see that Spacedaisy is a better lynch.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:18 pm**

So are we going to go for Marmot ? I've seen people clearing him and I honestly don't know why.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 6:37 pm**

I am going to hope there's information in play here and just say "k".

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:05 pm**

..... if space daisy is the third mafia then I'm gonna be mad cus that means all my old LP friends were in a mafia team together and i wasn't invited. :[

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:18 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:05 pm ..... if space daisy is the third mafia then I'm gonna be mad cus that means all my old LP friends were in a mafia team together and i wasn't invited. :[

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:23 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:18 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:05 pm ..... if space daisy is the third mafia then I'm gonna be mad cus that means all my old LP friends were in a mafia team together and i wasn't invited. :[

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:05 pm ..... if space daisy is the third mafia then I'm gonna be mad cus that means all my old LP friends were in a mafia team together and i wasn't invited. :[

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:05 pm ..... if space daisy is the third mafia then I'm gonna be mad cus that means all my old LP friends were in a mafia team together and i wasn't invited. :[

oh god im so sorry i forgot you were in this game

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 8:35 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:59 am
FZ. wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:54 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 5:47 am Are you kidding me.

I actually just slapped my own face so hard that it physically hurt.

Lynch the guy that conceded. Lynch the guy that is begging to be relieved of this game ASAP because he knows he can’t win.
Well, right now, I'm pretty sure Marmot had a purpose and is not just begging to be relived of this game. I expect more from you. I can't be sure you are the baddie, but I'm starting to be sure Marmot isn't it either.
This was Epi’s last joke.

Marmot got it.

He knows he’s not surviving the game. He doesn’t care to drag it out. Epignosis jokingly threatened to drag it out. Marmot doesn’t want that.

Even if he is being a terrible civilian and wants to be revealed as a lynch survivor, that would need to e revealed before LyLo. A failed lynch at endgame is a loss.

We already had a failed night kill. “Survives the first attempt on their life” could have been expended then.

You misunderstand me.

Epignosis swung the lynch off of me (or rather nova I guess) Day 4. I thought he was jokingly saying he was going to do the same thing tomorrow.

I didn't realize he meant that there'd be multiple nights.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:51 pm**

wait did epi do this?

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:53 pm**

*why* would epi do this?

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:53 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:51 pm wait did epi do this?

He seemed dejected at the start of the first night and suggested that something went wrong with EOD shenanigans. I suspect he was punished and somehow failed to live up to the demands of This Guy, and the result was a skipped day phase. It looks like he saw it coming, and the joke Marmot just extracted from his EON commentary does corroborate that in a way I'd not considered.

I doubt he "did" it, but he was related to it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:08 pm**

skipping an entire lynch phase for everyone seems strong for a punishment for failing a challenge thing... but I see what you mean.

"Well everyone will see what will happen I guess."

"Relax. Unfortunately a consensus is not necessary tonight"

this constable might not be something we should be taking lightly.

Posted: **Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.

Do you have doubts?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:03 am**

I've had a long and aggravating day and I am not in the mood for mafia tonight. Lynch me, I don't care. But maybe then you will finally listen to what I had to say and lynch Marmot next. I'm out for the night.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?

Yes.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:06 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?
Yes.

Spit 'em out

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:11 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?
Yes.
Spit 'em out

That Marmot has been wisely cleared is the primary doubt.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:13 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:11 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:06 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:05 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 11:31 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:43 am Those who have doubts, I think you'd be well advised to look at the products left behind by nutella and speedchuck. I considered both of them to be surprising kills, the former especially.
Do you have doubts?
Yes.
Spit 'em out
That Marmot has been wisely cleared is the primary doubt.

I'm not sure I follow. Assume I've read nothing from the last 24 hours.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:17 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:13 am I'm not sure I follow. Assume I've read nothing from the last 24 hours.

FZ. thinks Marmot is the role that earns -1 vote for each phase without receiving a final vote.

Mac is done suspecting him in vague terms.

The general motion of the thread seems to be slanted against Daisy now.

I don't think worse of these players for this stuff, but I am not convinced they're correct. You should read up and report your findings. There isn't that much.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:18 am**

Exercise:

In a universe where the last mafioso is not Marmot or Daisy, whodafug is it?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:19 am**

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:03 am I've had a long and aggravating day and I am not in the mood for mafia tonight. Lynch me, I don't care. But maybe then you will finally listen to what I had to say and lynch Marmot next. I'm out for the night.

This does not inspire confidence on Daisy's side either.

Why does everyone keep throwing their arms up and quitting? If these are civilians we're going to lose the game.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:20 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:18 am Exercise:

In a universe where the last mafioso is not Marmot or Daisy, whodafug is it?

... kyle?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:22 am**

or NVN still. Is his "cleared" status altered at all by Epi dying? If I'm not mistaken, the crux of his townie status is that he did not appear to have been responsible for cursing Epi, but now it appears that Epi was tinkered with by the ghost if anything. Or am I missing something?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:22 am**

why can't it be daisy?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:23 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:22 am or NVN still. Is his "cleared" status altered at all by Epi dying? If I'm not mistaken, the crux of his townie status is that he did not appear to have been responsible for cursing Epi, but now it appears that Epi was tinkered with by the ghost if anything. Or am I missing something?

I have no idea why the ghost has to have anything to do with what happened to Epignosis. I have been attributing it to This Guy.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:22 am why can't it be daisy?

It can be. I wouldn't watch that "lynch Daisy" deadline pass feeling terribly comfortable though.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:25 am**

Also, given that DFaraday confirmed that the ghost does not have to die for the civilians to win the game, we can assume that it isn't purely an evil entity. If its ability triggers a skipped day phase, then it's ability is purely pro-mafia and anti-civilian. I think it makes more sense to just assign that shit to the mafioso.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:25 am**

DFaraday wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:29 am Night 4 - Sunset, Sunset

Anatevka has been enchanted! And Epi is dead! I am so shocked I can't even talk right now!

Epi has been killed.

Anatevka is temporarily bewitched. It is now Night 4.5. You have 24 hours to send in your PMs.

These words are the reason I am assuming the ghost is involved.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:27 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:22 am or NVN still. Is his "cleared" status altered at all by Epi dying? If I'm not mistaken, the crux of his townie status is that he did not appear to have been responsible for cursing Epi, but now it appears that Epi was tinkered with by the ghost if anything. Or am I missing something?

Why would Epi dying change my status ? I thought we were past all this.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:28 am**

Whatever it is, there's reason to believe it also happened to Dyslexicon and it could as easily happen to any living player again in the following day phase. It looks like adhering to the requirements of these whatevers is very difficult to do, and the consequences of failure are severe.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:31 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:28 am Whatever it is, there's reason to believe it also happened to Dyslexicon and it could as easily happen to any living player again in the following day phase. It looks like adhering to the requirements of these whatevers is very difficult to do, and the consequences of failure are severe.

Do you think they're all similar ? Or does This Guy come up with ones for each of his target ?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:32 am**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:31 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:28 am Whatever it is, there's reason to believe it also happened to Dyslexicon and it could as easily happen to any living player again in the following day phase. It looks like adhering to the requirements of these whatevers is very difficult to do, and the consequences of failure are severe.
Do you think they're all similar ? Or does This Guy come up with ones for each of his target ?

No clue. DFaraday may give the player a list of options to choose from. If they have total freedom to make things up, that'd be rather overpowered.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:46 am**

All this said, I don't want paranoia to take over the game. For now there's room and cause to stay the course.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:38 am**

Night 4.5 - Overworked, Underfed

We are all weary in Anatevka. It seemed that this night would never end. Finally the sun rose, and we stepped out into the daylight once more. All but one, that is. Poor Sloonei never returned to our town square.

Sloonei has been killed. It is now Day 5. You have 24 hours to lynch someone.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:41 am**

rip sloonei

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:48 am**

Kyle, you've been Johnny-on-the-spot at the end of the last few night phases. Time to investigate your "rip"s.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:55 am**

[mention]DFaraday[/mention], did you mean to include Epignosis in the poll?

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:20 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:48 am Kyle, you've been Johnny-on-the-spot at the end of the last few night phases. Time to investigate your "rip"s.

mmm usually I open up with an rip followed by a mission statement for what I intend to accomplish during that day, but like...... it doesn't feel like there's actually that much to do until we solve the poe.

there hasn't been any particularly usable data to analyze since long con's death

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:23 am**

I voted Daisy.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:30 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 1:55 am @DFaraday, did you mean to include Epignosis in the poll?

I copy/pasted and forgot to take him out. Nobody vote for Epi.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:30 am**

Baaaaaaaaah

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:10 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 2:23 am I voted Daisy.

Good just do this and hope we're right or else Dyslexicon has fucked us all.

Posted: **Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:11 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:18 am Exercise:

In a universe where the last mafioso is not Marmot or Daisy, whodafug is it?

Dyslexicon easily. Has basically just had some random meh reasons for not being it that make no sense.

I am drunk as fuck overlook most of my posts.

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