The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm**

I am here to make an announcement that I am a wolf and I am TMI'ing BoKnows town right now

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm**

Ran through those who had voted for me and their vote journeys through the phase:

112- Made to Michelle to G-Man to Made

Dyachei- Bo to Quas to G-Man to reywaS

Esooa- G-Man to reywaS

KZA- not using the vote tag

Made- Gil to Nutella to G-Man to Epi to Bo to Mac to KZA to G-Man to reywaS to Radish

Nutella- Gil to 112 to G-Man to 112 to G-Man to reywaS to Chardonnay to reywaS

Of these six, I distrust Esooa, KZA, and nutella the most.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm**

"too wolfy to be a wolf" this one is actually on google for once

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm I am here to make an announcement that I am a wolf and I am TMI'ing BoKnows town right now

Good lord

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm**

@Long Con any word from seanzie or daisycloud? I know at least daisycloud is in the syndicate discord server, you should maybe try messaging her on there?

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:40 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm Ran through those who had voted for me and their vote journeys through the phase:

112- Made to Michelle to G-Man to Made

Dyachei- Bo to Quas to G-Man to reywaS

Esooa- G-Man to reywaS

KZA- not using the vote tag

Made- Gil to Nutella to G-Man to Epi to Bo to Mac to KZA to G-Man to reywaS to Radish

Nutella- Gil to 112 to G-Man to 112 to G-Man to reywaS to Chardonnay to reywaS

Of these six, I distrust Esooa, KZA, and nutella the most.

Omg this is such a cute townie post. G-Man ur such a sweetheart.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:42 pm**

Nutella out here trying get the mod to ping no shows and y'all wanna be scum reading it. Therapy.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:43 pm**

So we're just gonna kill 112 here right?

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:43 pm**

Rats- I didn’t mean to post, just refresh.

112, dyachei, and Made all had four or more votes. That’s pretty busy and noticeable. Baddies don’t want to do that on Day 1.

Nutella has more than four votes, but she and Esooa are guilty of parking on someone for a long time. Baddies like to park on Day 1 and stay above the fray with their votes.

KZA isn’t using vote tags, so they are in stealth mode if bad.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:43 pm**

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:06 pm Michelle just jumped on the TSP wagon like 'I like this wagon' and me and Marmot hadn't even like cased him or anything. It was bad.

Very accurate.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm**

I have some interesting thoughts.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:45 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm @Long Con any word from seanzie or daisycloud? I know at least daisycloud is in the syndicate discord server, you should maybe try messaging her on there?

None yet, I will try that.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:45 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:43 pm Rats- I didn’t mean to post, just refresh.

112, dyachei, and Made all had four or more votes. That’s pretty busy and noticeable. Baddies don’t want to do that on Day 1.

Nutella has more than four votes, but she and Esooa are guilty of parking on someone for a long time. Baddies like to park on Day 1 and stay above the fray with their votes.

KZA isn’t using vote tags, so they are in stealth mode if bad.

I'm not trying to hide anything tbh I just spray my vote around pretty liberally as a player

Can use tags from now on if people want that

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm @Long Con any word from seanzie or daisycloud? I know at least daisycloud is in the syndicate discord server, you should maybe try messaging her on there?

I'd pinged seanzie on PerC Discord, but I guess it's possible he doesn't frequent there.

I can try pm'ing him instead.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:46 pm**

I'm not going to vote Michelle.

Though I have some interesting thoughts I want to share after night

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:35 pm No I think it's actually towny that Bo showed up and wanted to participate in the largest wagons
is there something specific about Bo that makes this specifically true for them?
Scummy question

i don't know anything about Bo, the implication seems to be that KZA doesn't think their post was unusual, so i want to know if there's meta precedent

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:44 pm I have some interesting thoughts.

Remember when ‘interesting’ was a bad word to use?

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:24 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:07 pm Hmm yeah at MR's suggestion Michelle's ISO is fluffy and just bad
michelle is town i am p sure

What makes Michelle good bread?

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm**

I am going to finish a spreadsheet tonight that will bring in a lot of info.

I'm at least intrigued on what conclusions to draw

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:47 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm
Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:37 pm
KZA wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:35 pm No I think it's actually towny that Bo showed up and wanted to participate in the largest wagons
is there something specific about Bo that makes this specifically true for them?
Scummy question
i don't know anything about Bo, the implication seems to be that KZA doesn't think their post was unusual, so i want to know if there's meta precedent

he's pretty new to Mafia and his posts just strike me as innocent asf lol

I talk to him a lot on Discord and have a decent grasp of what he's like

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm Ran through those who had voted for me and their vote journeys through the phase:

112- Made to Michelle to G-Man to Made

Dyachei- Bo to Quas to G-Man to reywaS

Esooa- G-Man to reywaS

KZA- not using the vote tag

Made- Gil to Nutella to G-Man to Epi to Bo to Mac to KZA to G-Man to reywaS to Radish

Nutella- Gil to 112 to G-Man to 112 to G-Man to reywaS to Chardonnay to reywaS

Of these six, I distrust Esooa, KZA, and nutella the most.

I also voted you at one point I think

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:49 pm**

reywaS wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 7:54 pm I'm scumread for voting for reywas, for shielding reywas, for bussing, for not voting for reywas.

You people are just ridiculously tilted by everything I do. Definition tunneling. Get the fuck good.
Clearly I’m the toxic one in this.

Also I am having beers

Alcohol is literally a toxin, so I think we can just blame on the a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-alcohol baby

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:50 pm**

That said, I do feel the need to add that alcohol is never to blame for a person's actions or choices.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:50 pm**

I’m here for a bit between child care but I will almost certainly be ghosting EOD

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:51 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm I am going to finish a spreadsheet tonight that will bring in a lot of info.

I'm at least intrigued on what conclusions to draw

Respect to a fellow spreadsheeter. Mine used to be multi-tab and colorful. Now they are sad and long for being updated.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 pm**

I want to know why Dyachei feels so confident about Nutella. I checked the ISO and couldn't find strong reasoning.

Though during my check of the Nutella ISO, every Dya reference was just calling them obvious town.

I checked the setup and there is no masons, so I am kind of confused of the mutual understanding of both being town, I would have thought some kind of interaction happened for them to come to the conclusion.

Hmm

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:53 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 pm I want to know why Dyachei feels so confident about Nutella. I checked the ISO and couldn't find strong reasoning.

Though during my check of the Nutella ISO, every Dya reference was just calling them obvious town.

I checked the setup and there is no masons, so I am kind of confused of the mutual understanding of both being town, I would have thought some kind of interaction happened for them to come to the conclusion.

Hmm

I agree with dya fwiw

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:54 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm Ran through those who had voted for me and their vote journeys through the phase:

112- Made to Michelle to G-Man to Made

Dyachei- Bo to Quas to G-Man to reywaS

Esooa- G-Man to reywaS

KZA- not using the vote tag

Made- Gil to Nutella to G-Man to Epi to Bo to Mac to KZA to G-Man to reywaS to Radish

Nutella- Gil to 112 to G-Man to 112 to G-Man to reywaS to Chardonnay to reywaS

Of these six, I distrust Esooa, KZA, and nutella the most.
I also voted you at one point I think

Right you may be, but I’m working off the people who were on the 6-vote G-Train when I snapped my picture.

I can sus you if you want, but I’ve learned to let my mind simmer on you for a few days.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:53 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 pm I want to know why Dyachei feels so confident about Nutella. I checked the ISO and couldn't find strong reasoning.

Though during my check of the Nutella ISO, every Dya reference was just calling them obvious town.

I checked the setup and there is no masons, so I am kind of confused of the mutual understanding of both being town, I would have thought some kind of interaction happened for them to come to the conclusion.

Hmm
I agree with dya fwiw

I think getting lost in if you agree with it is not the point really.

I'd be pushing it more if I thought the both of them were mafia defending one another.

We could be wrong, so using our bias of reads to investigate thoughts is usually the wrong way of going about it.

I'd rather try and understand if they could genuinely come to this conclusion as two towns.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:48 pm
G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:39 pm Ran through those who had voted for me and their vote journeys through the phase:

112- Made to Michelle to G-Man to Made

Dyachei- Bo to Quas to G-Man to reywaS

Esooa- G-Man to reywaS

KZA- not using the vote tag

Made- Gil to Nutella to G-Man to Epi to Bo to Mac to KZA to G-Man to reywaS to Radish

Nutella- Gil to 112 to G-Man to 112 to G-Man to reywaS to Chardonnay to reywaS

Of these six, I distrust Esooa, KZA, and nutella the most.
I also voted you at one point I think
Right you may be, but I’m working off the people who were on the 6-vote G-Train when I snapped my picture.

I can sus you if you want, but I’ve learned to let my mind simmer on you for a few days.

Mac told me to pace myself so I’d say wait until D3/4 and we can Duke it out then

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm**

Idk how anyone familiar with Nutella could not be townreading her rn so dya townreading her doesn’t surprise me

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:56 pm**

I did in fact mention the reasons in my iso. namely that I have wolfed with nutella twice in recent history and she's posting much differently and more freely in this game

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:56 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm
Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:53 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 pm I want to know why Dyachei feels so confident about Nutella. I checked the ISO and couldn't find strong reasoning.

Though during my check of the Nutella ISO, every Dya reference was just calling them obvious town.

I checked the setup and there is no masons, so I am kind of confused of the mutual understanding of both being town, I would have thought some kind of interaction happened for them to come to the conclusion.

Hmm
I agree with dya fwiw
I think getting lost in if you agree with it is not the point really.

I'd be pushing it more if I thought the both of them were mafia defending one another.

We could be wrong, so using our bias of reads to investigate thoughts is usually the wrong way of going about it.

I'd rather try and understand if they could genuinely come to this conclusion as two towns.

yeh

I was just trying to say it's not necessarily a poor conclusion, fmpov

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm**

Ok so I’m a little tipsy now and I just wanna say that if I’m lynched it’s probably my fault for forgetting how to
Civ.

I apologize to my fellow Civs for not being as helpful as I should have been. It’s been a while and you guys are just intimidating tbh. I will keep playing and perhaps my game will improve over time

Still no cap in my rap

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm Idk how anyone familiar with Nutella could not be townreading her rn so dya townreading her doesn’t surprise me

You know, this is the least helpful stuff in all of mafia. It's partly why I have found it so hard to start playing mafia again.

It's not just this community, but nobody ever explains a read past "well I know them"

It turns out I don't know people, so it becomes hard to investigate the game when I'm just told to trust other players, which is the opposite of the point to this game

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm**

[VOTE: reywas] aubergine

I still think this is the way today.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:58 pm**

dyachei wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:56 pm I did in fact mention the reasons in my iso. namely that I have wolfed with nutella twice in recent history and she's posting much differently and more freely in this game

I read the Nutella ISO, not yours

Thanks for the explanation though

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:00 pm**

reywaS wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm Ok so I’m a little tipsy now and I just wanna say that if I’m lynched it’s probably my fault for forgetting how to
Civ.

I apologize to my fellow Civs for not being as helpful as I should have been. It’s been a while and you guys are just intimidating tbh. I will keep playing and perhaps my game will improve over time

Still no cap in my rap

lol this post does make me feel a little apprehensive about lynching him doe

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:01 pm**

Right now I must depart for the evening. From what I have read, and what little analysis I could pull from it, I shall [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine. We’ll see how I feel after the flip.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:01 pm**

G-Man wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:01 pm Right now I must depart for the evening. From what I have read, and what little analysis I could pull from it, I shall [VOTE: Esooa] aubergine. We’ll see how I feel after the flip.

vote made, I'm pretty obviously town

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:01 pm**

https://prnt.sc/ygjotp

So I have just changed my vote to the lead wagon on Rey

I did this because the wagon i was on consisted of the lost wolf, a scummy player, and 2 inactive players

I trust Nanook and Dya, who both trust Nutella. This clears up the wagon on Rey for me a lot, I was a bit paranoid early but I think I can put this to rest for now.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:02 pm**

[VOTE: made] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:02 pm**

oh let me post it

[VOTE: Reywas] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:03 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:55 pm Idk how anyone familiar with Nutella could not be townreading her rn so dya townreading her doesn’t surprise me
You know, this is the least helpful stuff in all of mafia. It's partly why I have found it so hard to start playing mafia again.

It's not just this community, but nobody ever explains a read past "well I know them"

It turns out I don't know people, so it becomes hard to investigate the game when I'm just told to trust other players, which is the opposite of the point to this game

I would argue that figuring out who/when to trust players is exactly the point of this game

I know it can be frustrating when people just say “yeah we know nutella this looks like her town game,” it’s hard to interact with a meta read like that much, but at the same time...if you know nutella well enough to have that read it’s hard to explain it beyond that

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:04 pm**

@nutella it seems like you are townreading the entire playerlist except reywas.

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:06 pm**

I know I'm still rusty on my return to mafia, but I am pretty hesitant on deciding things and taking action.

I feel like people will dislike me for doing w.e

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:11 pm**

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:52 pm I want to know why Dyachei feels so confident about Nutella. I checked the ISO and couldn't find strong reasoning.

Though during my check of the Nutella ISO, every Dya reference was just calling them obvious town.

I checked the setup and there is no masons, so I am kind of confused of the mutual understanding of both being town, I would have thought some kind of interaction happened for them to come to the conclusion.

Hmm

We've just been vibing with each other a lot

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:12 pm**

what if we all voted chardonnay?

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:13 pm**

I still think char is town

Posted: **Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:14 pm**

Esooa wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:00 pm
reywaS wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:57 pm Ok so I’m a little tipsy now and I just wanna say that if I’m lynched it’s probably my fault for forgetting how to
Civ.

I apologize to my fellow Civs for not being as helpful as I should have been. It’s been a while and you guys are just intimidating tbh. I will keep playing and perhaps my game will improve over time

Still no cap in my rap
lol this post does make me feel a little apprehensive about lynching him doe

same af. I do think theres a possibility he flips town and I'd feel bad but I also just dont really have stronger reasons on anyone else lol

and the counterwagons that popped up felt sketchy ish

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