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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm
by Marmot
I've seen more reasons to not trust you than to trust you Sloonei, you can't really just vote me for not town-reading you.

I mean, you can, but you won't get away with it.


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Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm
by Sloonei
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:11 pm I've heard people say that Grogu is green, why?
Grogu said that Grogu is green.
They had a no reason vote on Esooa early in the game, then changed to BK for also! you guessed it, no reason.


Does that sound towny to you?
If this is directed at me in particular, I am not one of the people who has said that Grogu is town. I'm just the messenger here.

If it is directed at the thread in general, fair deal.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
alison isn't confirmed town but should be treated as such because if she's town her role is vanilla and if she's not VC has incentive to remove her in any case

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
like vc should always shoot alison here and then we don't have to worry

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
by Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Things will start to make more sense once Marmot has answered the question I've asked him five times now.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling

Can you help us understand what's mind-boggling to you?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:17 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
tbh i do not understand the question you've asked him five times now and I've reread various formulations of it multiple times

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:17 pm
by falcon45ca
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:12 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:11 pm I've heard people say that Grogu is green, why?
Grogu said that Grogu is green.
They had a no reason vote on Esooa early in the game, then changed to BK for also! you guessed it, no reason.


Does that sound towny to you?
If this is directed at me in particular, I am not one of the people who has said that Grogu is town. I'm just the messenger here.

If it is directed at the thread in general, fair deal.
Boom

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:18 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling

Can you help us understand what's mind-boggling to you?
sloonei is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
daisy is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
alison is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
chop is still alive.
and so on.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:18 pm
by Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:17 pm tbh i do not understand the question you've asked him five times now and I've reread various formulations of it multiple times
Marmot said a thing and I asked him to explain why he said it.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
marmot pls answer the man so he will stop being stupid and I can stop banging my head against this wall

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
by falcon45ca
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
by Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:18 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:16 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling

Can you help us understand what's mind-boggling to you?
sloonei is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
daisy is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
alison is doing mindboggling things and is also being treated in a mindboggling manner.
chop is still alive.
and so on.
alison and daisy make perfect sense to me.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
story: was just doing a math problem, and my calculation had a problem so I went back and realized I was missing a minus sign. However, two lines later I realized that I had dropped a second minus sign and these two errors canceled out. Lots of head banging averted.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:20 pm
by Sloonei
tbh i'm surprised tsp doesn't understand what's happening right now.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by Kylemii
chop was being attended before the message thing?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:20 pm tbh i'm surprised tsp doesn't understand what's happening right now.
Look I think I have a general idea but please

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by Marmot
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:14 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:12 pm I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.
Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by KZA
@falcon45ca who do you think is scum rnow

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
by Sloonei
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm 3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
marmot

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:23 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm marmot pls answer the man so he will stop being stupid and I can stop banging my head against this wall
I'm trying, he's very picky about his answers, and also I'm still trying to catch up on the context. :sigh:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:24 pm
by Sloonei
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:14 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:12 pm I should clarify, when I said "a guilty conscience", I was referring to that claim coming from an Enclave mindset, and that's a harder reason to reckon with imo.
Okay but before you said that you said it was "a good look" and then called that "probably likely" (adverb count: 2). Why?

I'm still trying to figure out why he targeted Spacedaisy.


I think that his reaction of admitting it was him is a good look, because Spacedaisy pointed out specifically that it was suspicious to ignore Esooa in whatever thoughts he included. I also think it's a good look for Spacedaisy for even putting it in the thread in the first place, and she came to a similar conclusion.

But.

I don't trust your handling of ChopChop this game, which is why I'm skeptical about it.
Noted.

In the interest of preserving thread sanity I'll drop the act now.

I lied to Marmot at the outset of this conversation. I read the situation opposite to what I told him: Chop is mafia, Daisy is town. I just wanted to see how he'd respond if I held the door open to town-read ChopChop. He kind of took it, and I didn't love that first answer. He walked through the door very gingerly.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:25 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
thank you thread sanity preserved i can take a nap now

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:25 pm
by Marmot
Jesus Sloonei

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
still mindboggling by the way

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:26 pm
by Sloonei
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:25 pmJesus Sloonei
:grin:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm
by Marmot
I'm going back to catching up.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
what mindboggling things have I done?

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm
by Sloonei
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm I'm going back to catching up.
*patpat*

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm
by Alison
Marmot why do you suspect Sloonei when this is a carbon copy of the way he acted in Dopplegangsters? I know you know about this, we talked about it in the scum chat.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
what mindboggling things have I done?
you scum read me but i thought it was too vain to put it on the list

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm
by Alison
Actually this goes for TSP too since he was in that game also. How did he not figure out what Sloonei was doing like 5 seconds in

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
by Alison
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:27 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:19 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:15 pm so many things itt are just absolutely mind boggling
Top 5 Mind Boggling Thread Events plz
4) falcon being convinced that alison is the neutral
4) anyone townreading chop
3) whoever made the post preflipping sloonei and saying that KZA was town
2) sloonei specifically saying that he srs daisy (which he does not he's just saying words)
1) chop claiming a scumslip
what mindboggling things have I done?
you scum read me but i thought it was too vain to put it on the list
what have you done that's so incredibly town it's insane to scumread you? I'm open to hearing arguments. My read on you isn't locked.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
by falcon45ca
KZA wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:22 pm @falcon45ca who do you think is scum rnow
Rej, Grogu, Mac

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm Marmot why do you suspect Sloonei when this is a carbon copy of the way he acted in Dopplegangsters? I know you know about this, we talked about it in the scum chat.

I don't actually know who he was on Dopplegangers, and I didn't pay much attention to that game tbh.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm Marmot why do you suspect Sloonei when this is a carbon copy of the way he acted in Dopplegangsters? I know you know about this, we talked about it in the scum chat.

I don't actually know who he was on Dopplegangers, and I didn't pay much attention to that game tbh.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 pm
by falcon45ca
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:30 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:27 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:25 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am

are you scum?
no
would ur answer change if I told you I was
no
I think you're scum
why
cause mac low posting is blatantly to avoid being NK'd and he's done it before

He has no reason to low post as scum

So you scum reading that and not actually thinking about his posts is kinda weird
This post especially gets me sus of Mac

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 pm
by Alison
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm Marmot why do you suspect Sloonei when this is a carbon copy of the way he acted in Dopplegangsters? I know you know about this, we talked about it in the scum chat.

I don't actually know who he was on Dopplegangers, and I didn't pay much attention to that game tbh.
He was fake Martin in that game and did the exact same thing, intentionally doing/saying crazy things to fish for reactions.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:32 pm
by Marmot
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 pm
Marmot wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:29 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm Marmot why do you suspect Sloonei when this is a carbon copy of the way he acted in Dopplegangsters? I know you know about this, we talked about it in the scum chat.

I don't actually know who he was on Dopplegangers, and I didn't pay much attention to that game tbh.
He was fake Martin in that game and did the exact same thing, intentionally doing/saying crazy things to fish for reactions.
Oh right.

As opposed to everyone else, I actually came out of those reactions looking pretty good somehow. :grin:

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Honestly like normally I'm not the kind of person to demand townreads or all that but I think that this is pretty pure serious towny tsp tone. I dunno if we've played in any games together where you would have seen that but I think a tone argument is questionable. You had an early SR on me for being jumpy and light, trying to imitate my normal style as I do when I'm a wolf. I don't think that corresponds to reality.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 1]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
falcon45ca wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:30 pm
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:30 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:27 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:25 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:24 am
Esooa wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am
Alison wrote: Tue Mar 02, 2021 5:23 am
no
would ur answer change if I told you I was
no
I think you're scum
why
cause mac low posting is blatantly to avoid being NK'd and he's done it before

He has no reason to low post as scum

So you scum reading that and not actually thinking about his posts is kinda weird
This post especially gets me sus of Mac
I actually think this TMI clears him from that team

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm
by KZA
I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
KZA wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.
i think he was the first to bring up grogu

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
by KZA
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:34 pm
KZA wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:33 pm I think Falcon has lifted all his scumreads from other people including reasoning and I trust him a whole lot less now.
i think he was the first to bring up grogu
I was

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:35 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Alison wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:28 pm Actually this goes for TSP too since he was in that game also. How did he not figure out what Sloonei was doing like 5 seconds in
wasn't involved enough in doppelgangsters and didn't have paprika idk

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:35 pm
by Kylemii
Sloonei wrote: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:24 pm *snip*
love the snoonie here

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:36 pm
by Sloonei
i forgot about my fake catatonic state in doppelgansters. that was some champion-level play. kudos to fake martin.

Re: Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [Day 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:37 pm
by Kylemii
sloonei lying proactively to get a read on someone early game is classic behavoir