The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:15 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:33 pm I don't even understand the policy behind it. You hardcore buried sean on Day 1 and Nanook sheeped you. Shouldn't we be policy-yeeting him?

I had an independent scumread

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:16 pm**

Ask anybody who had a chat with me post-D1 and ask if I haven’t been forthcoming

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:16 pm**

Why are you tilted from a pressure vote? If you think Mac is a wolf, why aren't you voting for him?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:18 pm**

@Justplayingitcool I asked you who you think is scum because I don't know what your thoughts are in this moment. I believe you're blowing what I said out of proportion. Nowhere did I say you have never shared your thoughts all game. Why do you think I think that?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:19 pm**

You haven't tallked about why you think Mac is scum today, that's why I asked.

If I'm wrong on that, feel free to point me at the posts you're referring to, but I didn't see any such mentions of him when I looked.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:19 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:16 pm Why are you tilted from a pressure vote? If you think Mac is a wolf, why aren't you voting for him?

Im tilted because i think its fucking dumb.

Did you literally not read... i said LAST DAY PHASE. We have all game to vote for who we think is a wolf. I have literally no clue who the last mafia is otherwise we would have won this a while ago.

Ironically enough this mindless tunnel probably comes from a villager

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:19 pm**

Not today anyway.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:20 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:19 pm You haven't tallked about why you think Mac is scum today, that's why I asked.

If I'm wrong on that, feel free to point me at the posts you're referring to, but I didn't see any such mentions of him when I looked.

LAST. DAY. Phase!!!!!

I have no clue who the last mafia is just like i said

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:21 pm**

Do you still suspect Mac?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:22 pm**

I'm not even tunnelling you, I'm just trying to extract answers from you and it's proving difficult.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:22 pm**

Yes, but who doesn’t suspect mac somewhat at a f5 situation and he’s still alive

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:23 pm**

Last day phase was a day ago. I'm curious if your thoughts on him have changed since then.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:23 pm**

Like does anyone here not suspect mac at least somewhat?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:26 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:23 pm Like does anyone here not suspect mac at least somewhat?

Sure, but I think there's reasonable evidence in the thread that he could be town.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:27 pm**

Right, so what did you hope to get out of your question?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:31 pm**

Who is scum marmot

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:31 pm**

What are your thoughts?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:35 pm**

I was hoping for more than "we're in F5, therefore I suspect Mac".

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:35 pm**

idk what to tell ya

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:37 pm**

There are things in the thread that probably point to mac as a villager, like the stuff you posted in the thread last day phase. But as we’re in f5 I don’t think it’s entirely unreasonable to have some level of paranoia even if it seems unfounded

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:37 pm**

And you didn’t answer my question

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:38 pm**

Also, i never top post as mafia, just saying

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:40 pm**

I have also stated in the thread that i had some concerns that mac, tsp & you have all had seemingly different experiences with sean in chats

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:41 pm**

I have also stated in the thread today that i wonder if mafia targeted their partner for chats after the conclusion we made on d1 that mafia don’t target their partners. I.E mac and tsp

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:43 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:33 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Tue May 04, 2021 7:30 pm Who did everybody target for chat this phase?
I targeted Tedxtr. Dana targeted me.
How did you know Dana targeted you?

Has anybody else been told they got targeted by the person that got night killed the previous night?

I have also voiced this suspicion but I think it might not be warranted

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:44 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:31 pm What are your thoughts?

Nanook - Mac is trying to convince me in chat that Nanook is town, so I honestly believe that, because town-Mac is probably right about that and scum-Mac automatically means that Nanook is town. Either way. Nanook is probably town.

JPIC - I've generally toneread you as town this game, but I am concerned about your approach today. I don't get the sense that you're trying to find the last wolf, and I think you're hedging around and hoping something sticks.

Mac - Yes he could be wolf. He's a very good player, so yes it's a surprise that he's here. That aside, I still there there's reason to believe that he isn't the wolf, mainly his handling of sean Day 1-2, and also sean's handling of Mac. One thing I don't like about Mac is in our chat, he encouraged me to go after JPIC because he needs some pressure (I do agree with that), but then informed me that he woke up in the middle of the night Day 4, and swapped his vote to JPIC. That information isn't even useful, or at least the second part. Still though, Mac seems to have more WIM than anyone else right now. That itself is just easier to TR.

TSP - Still a big question mark. I wish he wasn't. Like he said he was gonna solve this game today, but I'm afraid he doesn't actually plan to. TSP did tell me on Day 3 he wanted to yeet sean or ted, but that he didn't want to yeet falcon (that's why I asked if he TR him). In the end, he did vote for ted though, and actually didn't even talk about sean that much, despite advocating for his yeet.

Current prefered yeeting order.

TSP
JPIC
Mac
Nanook

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:45 pm**

Not trying to find the last wolf get out of here with that crap

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:45 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:38 pm Also, i never top post as mafia, just saying

You're not top poster. :P

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:45 pm**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:45 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:38 pm Also, i never top post as mafia, just saying

You're not top poster. :P

I meant one of the top posters in the game

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:47 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:45 pm Not trying to find the last wolf get out of here with that crap

I told you my thoughts.

Yes they involve concerns about you, I'd be more excited if people were willing to engage me on them.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:48 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:13 am
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Seanzie wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:43 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Apr 24, 2021 10:30 pm Oh Sloonei isn't in this game

Hardclaim mason with Sean.
Oh, I see how it is... Second choice for mason...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:28 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:01 pm Gosh dangit, I even picked Jay for my chat partner.
You didn't think Jay was likely to die?

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:26 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:25 pm
Marmot wrote: ↑Mon May 03, 2021 5:24 pm @Seanzie how you doin' buddy? Come and vote plz?
lol u want ted dead that bad eh

I want sean to come say things and vote, that's a reasonable desire.

Don't think this set of posts ever makes marmot scum with Sean - if I was a wolf with sean, I don't think anyone would outright state in the thread that they want them to come in and vote at a critical time of the game where sean was on the chopping block. Combined with the kill, marmot seems like the red herring and shaded in his direction.

I don't think mafia would target the chat on the same day as the night kill. If we also believe that our conclusion on D1 mafia didn't target their partner, then this should mean marmot is a good rodent. I would be sceptical about the conclusion if it was marmot who stated it in thread, but instead, it was TSP.

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Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:42 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:28 am i mean in that game you killed jay and then sloonei and i think then won it's not really like there was a lot else to do
You clearly didn't read wolfchat.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:46 am
Dana wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:44 am who did you chat with today sean?
TonyStonkPrime.

I challenged him to a game of chess with the caveat that the loser has to out their alignment. He beat me in 13 moves...

Seanzie wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:53 am TSP isn't playing a game to find out my partner though, which is SUS

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun May 02, 2021 1:48 am he's a wolf

I think these sets of posts are pretty interesting in hindsight now. TSP was telling me in chats that all sean did was play chess, rather than solve via Discord as Mac claimed they did with him, or sean just trying to resolve JJJ in marmots chat. I don't think TSP and sean make this set of posts if they were aligned together as wolves - could be bussing but again from the chats with TSP and reading back we came up with some solid reasoning to suspect sean, he even encouraged me to vote sean in Discord. I find it a tad concerning that marmot & TSP both had different experiences with Sean in their AIM chats compared to Mac.

We also talked about the Esooa nk a bit and seeing it was a bit strange because they were quiet in the thread, so it's very possible they were active in their btsc. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, you were in a chat with them I believe, did they say they had any active suspicions on the people alive?

NoT tRyiNg to SoLVEZ

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:48 pm**

Speaking of not trying to solveZZZZZZZZZZZ

[VOTE: TSP] aubergine

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:50 pm**

I saw mac’s vote on me d4. Thats why i said he was having a senior moment.

He swapped it back to ted as far as i know

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:51 pm**

Why does mac now townread Nook?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:52 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:51 pm Why does mac now townread Nook?

He said he read sean's ISO and concluded Nanook is town from it.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:52 pm**

Also why couldn’t mac pressure me himself the coward

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:54 pm**

Is this gonna be the game like the simple arsonist when marmot tunnelled me all game until i convinced him to flash wagon the real arsonist

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:55 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:54 pm Is this gonna be the game like the simple arsonist when marmot tunnelled me all game until i convinced him to flash wagon the real arsonist

It would be even funnier if it was Nanook again.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:56 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:52 pm Also why couldn’t mac pressure me himself the coward

I already had. I was discussing with Marmot how I didn't like your reactions and asked him to fake a push on you to bait it lol.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:57 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:56 pm
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 7:52 pm Also why couldn’t mac pressure me himself the coward
I already had. I was discussing with Marmot how I didn't like your reactions and asked him to fake a push on you to bait it lol.

What reactions were those? I never felt pressured by you

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 7:57 pm**

Unless you’re referring to the senior comment which was intended for humour

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:00 pm**

nah I sussed you a few times and you got mad. don't lie.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:01 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:00 pm nah I sussed you a few times and you got mad. don't lie.

When? Back in D2?

You immediately townread me in chats

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:02 pm**

Well, i hope you got the data you wanted for my reactions?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:02 pm**

why do you townread tsp?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:02 pm**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:02 pm Well, i hope you got the data you wanted for my reactions?

your reaction to him was pretty townie... better than it was to me.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:03 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 8:02 pm why do you townread tsp?

Well, tbh i townread him from chats which I know i should absolutely not do because of Magic the gathering mafia, where he tricked two towns in neighbourhood chats

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:05 pm**

And i felt like tsp sort of encouraged me to vote sean when I said to him I contemplated removing my vote from ted to sean to make it from 4-2 to 3-3

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:06 pm**

I’d need to reread the chat again properly, but we did talk like a lot and probably more than anyone else i have been in a chat with this game

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 8:08 pm**

I think I am his top town lol. he's just locked me in as town all game. perhaps this is why I am alive?

he also targeted me for chat today and hasn't done anything which... I feel is more aligned to him as town. He gets very busy in endgame as mafia.

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