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Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:14 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:01 pm I’ve also said this before, and not to discount it completely, but metas can be faked. People that talk about their metas and flaunt what they would do as wolf or as town automatically raise my hackles. The first step is awareness of your tell, the next step is being able to replicate it.

Listo’s saying he always does “A” as wolf. Others say nook always does “B” as town. Perhaps…if they…just changed their playstyle for a game…they could…fool people more

Meta is about playing probability. Yes, someone could fool you once. That's not the point. The point is that some high percentage of the time Player X exhibits Behavior Y as one alignment moreso than the other, so if Player X is exhibiting Behavior Y, they are more likely to be that alignment.

Its not Nanook CANT do X as mafia, its Nanook is much much more likely to do X as town. Or fill in your blank meta read on whatever player.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:43 pm**

listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 pm Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead
Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.

If nanook were to be mod-confirmed town right now, Flea-style, what would your solve be like?

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:47 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:43 pm
listo95 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:29 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 10:28 pm Ender started a wagon on creature that was immediately followed by listo, and then 2 others to push it to ender 3, creature 4. That was blatantly coordinated to look like a towny push on a new train. Your reasoning was shit, and I still want you dead
Then shoot me. Prove yourself wrong. Or shoot Nanook and prove me town.
If nanook were to be mod-confirmed town right now, Flea-style, what would your solve be like?

I would keep TH/Martin in my PoE. I'd be uncertain after that because I consider everyone else to be town. So I would need to get time to reread to try and see if I could pick out someone else if those 2 weren't wolves.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:54 pm**

I don't actually think listo's push on nanook is that unreasonable. If they townread everyone else except for the consensus POE slots (TH/Martin) and also have a strong gut feeling on nook being a wolf then them pushing there isn't really out of the ordinary. If listo is a wolf he's probably using his tunnel on nook to try to avoid having to engage with the rest of the game but he actually seemed kinda annoyed people weren't engaging with him rather than happily coasting under the radar.

Posted: **Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:59 pm**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:54 pm I don't actually think listo's push on nanook is that unreasonable. If they townread everyone else except for the consensus POE slots (TH/Martin) and also have a strong gut feeling on nook being a wolf then them pushing there isn't really out of the ordinary. If listo is a wolf he's probably using his tunnel on nook to try to avoid having to engage with the rest of the game but he actually seemed kinda annoyed people weren't engaging with him rather than happily coasting under the radar.

I mean, he started at "nanook is scum lol" and then apparently townreads everyone else, this isn't a poe based read

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:05 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:11 am**

Dolby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:47 pm Honey was flavorswapped N1

I have no idea the flavor swap direction and if Honey was the instigator but yeah.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:13 am**

Martin and TH have been frozen for 24+ hours

Irregardless of other factors (TH’s push on HK D2, Martin’s weird posting, not the best looks in Michelle/Osie interactions) they’re probs red for that

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:27 am**

I’d add C4 to a probs town list

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:36 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:36 am**

Tbh Nanook can be higher PoE for D1 vote placement but I’m really phoning it in rn

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:37 am**

Pretty much the whole town list is the Martin wagon

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:37 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: c4] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:37 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: listo] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:38 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: triplehaven] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:39 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: scotty] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:39 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

[VOTE: martin] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:40 am**

as opposed to just leaving her alive and letting her push the same reads for me?

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:03 am**

Got it, thanks Mac:
Mac’s POE: Martin, c4, listo, TH, ScottY
maybe in that order.

RE Dolby: you are indeed correct that Martin and TH have been frozen. There’s no defense there, which leads directly to them looking guilty. I don’t see a way out of it.

And if they’re *both* guilty, I see no viable way listo is too.

So there ya go. Glad we got a little discussion last night, even if it was a tad tunnely.

We should continue as planned

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 7:05 am**

It’s very unfortunate that the big removed the vote timing mechanism in the poll, because with everyone not required to vote in thread, anyone can do anything and we wouldn’t know later

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:01 am**

Oh shit deadline's like now now

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:11 am**

Oddly more confident that TH is a wolf than Martin

Freezing after doing a dumb thing and getting railed by everyone for it isn't too odd, if a bit out of character for Martin
Freezing after heavily implying you have good mech for the top wagon and putting on bravado to chainsaw is just not it

But we'll probably kill her regardless tomorrow

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:12 am**

[VOTE: TripleHaven] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:13 am**

listo making my head spin

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:24 am**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:11 am Oddly more confident that TH is a wolf than Martin

Freezing after doing a dumb thing and getting railed by everyone for it isn't too odd, if a bit out of character for Martin
Freezing after heavily implying you have good mech for the top wagon and putting on bravado to chainsaw is just not it

But we'll probably kill her regardless tomorrow

I think what's damning there is martin could have tried to show he's town via some strong wolf hunting. Instead when he was pressured and the wagon grew he just vanished. To me that's basically admitting they're furry and trying to avoid spew as hard as they can.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:50 am**

Cool so w/w

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:53 am**

If you can somehow watch day actions find out who visited me

Idk I came here in case there was an emergency but there isn’t

Will turn up solving about 16 hours into night

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:57 am**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:50 amCool so w/w

that's where I'm at

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:00 am**

MartinGG99 has been eliminated

MartinGG99 was Mafia

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Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:15 am**

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Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:16 am**

Someone shoot TH obvs

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:19 am**

osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:38 am I also feel sad that everyone seems to have mostly stopped thinking about reading people off of Michelle's flip.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am**

pro tip: don't rock into the thread sussing the resurrected townie. it's not a good look

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am**

Guess what I am back. Woofs prepare to die.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am**

So TH next, then we look at Listo and Nanook

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am Guess what I am back. Woofs prepare to die.

*hands over the crossbow and silvered bolts*

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am**

Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:22 am**

Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am So TH next, then we look at Listo and Nanook

Listo and Nanook are very town. Osie spewed Listo town. Nanook confirmed to have sheeped me and Alison on a wolf d1 just makes him town.

TH and c4 are mafia probably.

I don't buy your clear. This game is literally advertised bastard so if anything getting a mod clear makes you more sus.

Everyone else is clear now. Scotty is spewed clear as is Hollowkatt.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.

Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:19 am
osieorb18 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 19, 2021 6:38 am I also feel sad that everyone seems to have mostly stopped thinking about reading people off of Michelle's flip.

this post does imply to some degree that the Michelle flip was bad information

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:24 am**

ie. Michelle may have been town.

Falcon was definitely town tho. Osie spewed him town.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:24 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:22 am
Flea the Magician wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am So TH next, then we look at Listo and Nanook
Listo and Nanook are very town. Osie spewed Listo town. Nanook confirmed to have sheeped me and Alison on a wolf d1 just makes him town.

TH and c4 are mafia probably.

I don't buy your clear. This game is literally advertised bastard so if anything getting a mod clear makes you more sus.

Everyone else is clear now. Scotty is spewed clear as is Hollowkatt.

I have a fancy pants image clearing me and it was in the poll.
Which TH voting for me on that was just beautiful

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.

No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am**

It's plausible we only have ender and martin/osie as dead wolves. I kind of lean that way tbh.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:20 am Guess what I am back. Woofs prepare to die.

what up my dude, welcome back to the land of posting

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.
No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive

it was you did your best but like there are 4 living mod confirmed town from the soup and then osie spewed Scotty and nanook is just town.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:26 am**

I also started saying it from the start I was confirmable, if you remember :3

Hopefully I eat the kill here.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:27 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.
No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive
it was you did your best but like there are 4 living mod confirmed town from the soup and then osie spewed Scotty and nanook is just town.

...

... ...

In a game advertised as bastard....

you don't believe my fancy pants image clear...

but you believe the soup that claimed to remove the nightkill even though a kill still happened.

*takes the crossbow back and points it at Mac*

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:27 am**

btw we should just claim since mafia used their soup unless I am missing something? I don't believe guillo is an exponent of unlimited soup.

Posted: **Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:28 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:25 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:23 am
c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 23, 2021 11:21 am Guillo uses light theme smh

So TH should just be a wolf

For the third, who took the fewest risks today, had the bussiest treatment of Martin today, and fit the most as the third wolf gamestate-wise today? Outside of the modpeeked player and the post-restricted player of course.
Good luck pal but you randed into a wolf slot.
No I subbed into a wolf slot
But IMO my entrance was very towny and attractive
it was you did your best but like there are 4 living mod confirmed town from the soup and then osie spewed Scotty and nanook is just town.

Is this where I say muck fech just vote wolfy people

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