Re: Mountain Mafia [DAY 4]
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 am
JaggedJimmyJa
All night kills are automatically janitored.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
I understand these words but not the sentences.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
In the wider Mafia world, I believe nightkills most often reveal the role of the deceased. In our microcosm, it was never that way, and I believe Marmot is playing it old-school in this one... no infodumping and no reveals on the nightkills.Kylemii wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:16 am Rip SD
I understand these words but not the sentences.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
I don't remember if I called her out immediately cus I was interested in seeing if she'd continue the behavior I found suspicious if I didn't mention it. But I think I mentioned it at some point.
I don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.
this is genuine here at that point of time, I really believe he overlooked Kyle because of that. However, for my records (I like to keep where my head is at on paper), when I called Jack doing the same thing (ie. overlooking my posts), he was constantly online itt and at times even posting to others. He did later use "I was at work" as a defense, but it didn't rub me the right way.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:29 pm @Kylemii
It's nothing personal. I worked 30 hours in the last 3 days and just clocked out. My posts are alternating between the most recent thing aimed at me or that I find super interesting when I refresh the page and my catch-up from 5 pages back. I promise to answer you tomorrow or maybe even tonight. :cheers:
Jack pointed this out on Day 1. Day 4 now and I agree very much. If one is scum, my money would be on Quin (I'll iso him later)
Are these posts genuine or not genuine? I need some opinions from other people on this before I share my possibly biased outtake.DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:38 pmI do. I don't like killing my friends. Choosing who to take out of a game feels bad.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:16 pmWHo the hell feels guilty about being mafia anyway?
He made an ISO post of "players he's most curious of" --dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:05 am I just did a quick glance at Wilgy posts, I'm going to go through all his posts shortly (they're not that many). I'm leaning bad now before I dig any deeper. It's Day 4 and Wilgy has not provided even 1 rainbow list, or even any kind of list of anything. That's not the Supercivvy Wilgy I've witnessed in play before![]()
Were you creating the options or just reacting to them?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 4:51 pm The options were lynch Jack or lynch Dom, I decided a Dom lynch was better.
votes shifted
the options were then Dom or Mesk, Mesk seemed like a more ideal choice to me.
the votes shifted again.
It was now Mesk or Jay, I didn't feel confident enough in the case against Jay, which had basically just become relevant at that moment, so I kept my vote on Mesk.
Your statistics are non-sensical. Pick any random group of four players. Is it likely all 4 are town? Possible, but not likely. That has nothing to do with they being inactive or not.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:55 pmI'd also like to point out I replaced in before you, and I'm town. There were three other inactives, Mesk, you, and insertnamehere (who became inactive after replacing another inactive). Is it likely all 4 inactives were town and not even 1 was mafia? Possible, but I wouldn't call it likely.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:42 pm For the record, far too early for me (got to page 11) to get any sort of good reads yet, BUT when you talk about lynching a player spot immediately after they've been replaced? That seems fairly scummy to me. Especially with the meta-logic of "well, they were replaced so they must be mafia" which is, frankly, crap logic.
I'm town, Mesk flipped town, so the logic that you COULD be scum isn't fool proof, but it isn't coming straight out of my ass either, I reckon. Read on, show us what you got. I've been in your shoes and it wasn't a fun process--especially when the person I replaced was a lynch-candidate the day before I replaced.
Most games in the Syndicate janitor every night kill by default.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
She can be 100% honest in that post and still be bad.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:51 amI don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.
Hmmm from what you said in that post and the following one, it didn't seem you were voting at that point. "Let's lynch lasagne" doesn't really mean "I'm voting lasagne right now". And I wasn't around so I couldn't see when you voted.Quin wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:56 pmAt the same time as Epi voted for Dom. I was the first on her.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:16 pm @Quin can you point out the time where you voted for Mesk (as in, close to what post of yours it happened?
Thought that was some Pokemon character.
Upon closer inspection, its Roy Mustang.
Oh! Well, that is interesting. Wasn't that way in either Mass Effect or SF, which is why I was surprised. Hmmm.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 amAll night kills are automatically janitored.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
True, but from my limited experience with her, I don't think she's the kind of player to do that. This seems like a style comment more than anything else.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:10 amShe can be 100% honest in that post and still be bad.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 6:51 amI don't feel a scum eloh would manipulate us in this way, writing a paragraph+ about how ill she feels. I feel this was a genuine cry of frustration. She got really sick, and got behind in the thread. I'm moving Eloh to higher town read now.Elohcin wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:09 pm I'm actually not having a jolly ol time. I'm sick. I still have work this week...which is good with Christmas coming, but I have a cold, so not fun. Every time I read a page even when caught up, there is another page to read. And when I go to sleep, I wake up like 10 pages behind. I cannot think straight 'cause I'm sick. Went to the store to get meds and left my phone, that's how much I can't think straight. Sloon is being nit picky with me. I think he expects more from me than I can intellectually give. I'm not an intellectual like so many of you here. I play for fun and to try to keep my mind as sharp as possible as I age. Did I mention I'm sick and feel like crap. My meds didn't even seem to help.
Yes, many Syndicate games in the past have done this: all nightkills being janitored.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:58 amOh! Well, that is interesting. Wasn't that way in either Mass Effect or SF, which is why I was surprised. Hmmm.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:05 amAll night kills are automatically janitored.malakim2099 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 3:04 am A janitor in this game. Very interesting.
Though I suspect the Martian is involved with that. Too many secrets.
Going to bed now, will poke back after some sleep.
Disagree. The first death being a mafia death is very bad thing for mafia. Bad Quin has cover from pushing after lasagne from the beginning, plus it's easier to justify votes swapping around in a CFD type EOD. I mean heck Sloonei voted with JJJ and I'm almost positive they're not w/w. I think JJJ/Quin/Dom w/w/w is still very much on the table.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:10 am I don't think J is bad with Dunya or Quin.
Bad Jimmy and bad Quin don't team up to save bad Dom. That's really dangerous for little return, given Dom has been inactive.
I still think Wuin is good.
I'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.
Mostly reacting, while offering my own opinions in the interim. If I'm walking into the lynch period without an acceptably strong idea about who I personally think is mafia then it makes more sense to me to look into the players who are receiving votes at the time. Ask myself: who the people are that are getting votes, what are other people seeing here? Who are the voters and why are they voting that way? that's what I did yesterday with Jack etcDragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:24 amWere you creating the options or just reacting to them?
There's 20ish players right now. When people make cases I like, I follow up on them with my own studies. If I see something no one else has noticed or talked about then I'll bring it up.Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:53 amAre you making cases or waiting for people to show them to you?
It's the PI trainer class from Pokemon Diamond and Pearl 0: he's the localized version of the gambler class.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:30 amUpon closer inspection, its Roy Mustang.
I can promise you regardless of alignment it's a time constraint. Civ Wilgy or Scum Wilgy, I frown upon lurking.dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:29 amHe made an ISO post of "players he's most curious of" --dunya wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 7:05 am I just did a quick glance at Wilgy posts, I'm going to go through all his posts shortly (they're not that many). I'm leaning bad now before I dig any deeper. It's Day 4 and Wilgy has not provided even 1 rainbow list, or even any kind of list of anything. That's not the Supercivvy Wilgy I've witnessed in play before![]()
-- which was some JoH posts. That was Day 1; he promised Epi or nutella iso next later that evening. Day 4, no additional ISOs were made. Could be time constraint. Could me scummy lurker Wilgy we saw in Seinfeld.
"Weird as fuck" is the least descriptive vote justification in the book. What's weird about him, and why is that weirdness bad?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pmI'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.
I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.
But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.
I wrote a big paragraph about him. People said it was poetic, in fact.Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 2:01 pm"Weird as fuck" is the least descriptive vote justification in the book. What's weird about him, and why is that weirdness bad?Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pmI'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.
I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.
But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.
The bolded is not. I can tell you that. But of course I'd tell you that.colonialbob wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 12:25 pmDisagree. The first death being a mafia death is very bad thing for mafia. Bad Quin has cover from pushing after lasagne from the beginning, plus it's easier to justify votes swapping around in a CFD type EOD. I mean heck Sloonei voted with JJJ and I'm almost positive they're not w/w. I think JJJ/Quin/Dom w/w/w is still very much on the table.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 10:10 am I don't think J is bad with Dunya or Quin.
Bad Jimmy and bad Quin don't team up to save bad Dom. That's really dangerous for little return, given Dom has been inactive.
I still think Wuin is good.
(Plus little return isn't necessarily true. He could be Sutter Buttes, or Gwendol Wreakin's kill might be special in some way. And if his teammates can submit an action for him, doubly so.)
I've never really played a game with JJJ before (co-modded with Mass Effect, and he dropped for inactivity in SF when we were scumbrothers) so could you say where your Masterpiece summary was (or quote it)? Still catching up on the thread* so I haven't had a chance to really dive in. I'm getting there though!Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 01, 2017 1:31 pmI'd lynch one of Kyle/Dunya/Jack/Bob/Sig/Eloh.
I don't want to lynch Malakim today. Give him time to breathe. Day 5 onwards is fair game tho.
But above all, I wanna follow up on the case I made last night. Jay's playstyle in this game is weird as fuck. He needs to be lynched for that. Or be forced to defend himself. So far his defense has been pitiful.