Jack Attack Mafia (Day 5)

[TonyStarkPrime]

ready for this spice? jay/epi/alison, pawn is 3p

[KitsuShel]

I've given up on syndi ways this is full hcrealms hunting

What’s that supposed to mean?

[Hally]

oh true forgot that

[TonyStarkPrime]

no, pawn isn't 3p. It can be Wilgy I guess

[Hally]

ready for this spice? jay/epi/alison, pawn is 3p

explain?

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've given up on syndi ways this is full hcrealms hunting

What’s that supposed to mean?

I'm not trying to solve the game via town behavior and POEs but rather by an in depth examination of night actions

[Hally]

ColinIsCool - claimed miller
Long Con - no claim?
TonyStarkPrime - claimed miller
DrWilgy - no claim?
Pawn Lelouch - no claim?
Spacedaisy - claimed alignment cop
Wisp - claimed rolecard peeker
KitsuShel - claimed miller
sabie12 - no claim?
Epignosis - no claim?
Alison - claimed miller
JaggedJimmyJay - claimed vote thing
Hally - claimed miller + voyeur

[TonyStarkPrime]

maybe it's Colin instead of Epi or Jay, I guess.

[KitsuShel]

I've given up on syndi ways this is full hcrealms hunting

What’s that supposed to mean?

I'm not trying to solve the game via town behavior and POEs but rather by an in depth examination of night actions

Ok then. I thought it was a derogatory comment at first, lol.

But that reasoning might be why I had a more difficult time day one. I’m not used to people jumping right out at you and making charts off your personality. My experiences tend to be more write-up/action-driven deductions.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I've given up on syndi ways this is full hcrealms hunting

What’s that supposed to mean?

I'm not trying to solve the game via town behavior and POEs but rather by an in depth examination of night actions

Ok then. I thought it was a derogatory comment at first, lol.

But that reasoning might be why I had a more difficult time day one. I’m not used to people jumping right out at you and making charts off your personality. My experiences tend to be more write-up/action-driven deductions.

That's probably what this game needs right now

[Hally]

idk why he need to get swamped in claims and actions rn

we have a poe of wilgy, colin and pawn that we need to kill

then we can see whos left and what claims we’ve got

idk like we dont really need to over complicate stuff

i think having more claims and stuff is gonna muddy too much atm

ppl can claim if they have relevant info though

[TonyStarkPrime]

idk why he need to get swamped in claims and actions rn

we have a poe of wilgy, colin and pawn that we need to kill

then we can see whos left and what claims we’ve got

idk like we dont really need to over complicate stuff

i think having more claims and stuff is gonna muddy too much atm

ppl can claim if they have relevant info though

I do agree with this fwiw. game state is fine as of now. hold the line. all that.

[sabie12]

I've given up on syndi ways this is full hcrealms hunting

What’s that supposed to mean?

I'm not trying to solve the game via town behavior and POEs but rather by an in depth examination of night actions

Ok then. I thought it was a derogatory comment at first, lol.

But that reasoning might be why I had a more difficult time day one. I’m not used to people jumping right out at you and making charts off your personality. My experiences tend to be more write-up/action-driven deductions.

I've been on this site for years but sometimes I still struggle with that too. Like how people get right into reads before there's much to base the reads off of. I'm not a go in guns blazing type player.

[sabie12]

ready for this spice? jay/epi/alison, pawn is 3p

Not that I'm a hundred percent opposed to this idea but curious what your reasoning is. Or are you saying this to generate some devil's advocate kind of discussion as jay and alison have kind of dominated a lot of discussion so far in the game?

[Hally]

its been like 48 hrs since wilgy last posted

is this nornal for him

[Millium]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention]
It doesn't matter really, the role card exists, even if I got redirected... So if he lies and says it is him, and then if he's not, the person CC's him and he dies

Also I am not a mkller

[Millium]

Jagged probably becomes a problem if he doesn't die or hit a mafia. I'm not worried about him since it feels like he trying to progress the game for town

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] why are Pawn and Wilgy not mafia?

[Long Con]

@Long Con
What exactly are you asking?
Anyways I will respond in the morning
if the question is, "Do you have my whole role pm, word for word", then the answer is yes
Actually my results don't actually confirm its you, but I can confirm it with
"Samurai Jack"

No LC claims the character you don't no no no nonads f'wrlk bdfgx

this sort of is not the way that it should go but I think LC needs to claim slightly more.

I already referenced my role card twice, once before Wisp said my role name, and once after. Wisp knows that I was referencing the same role card he saw. Whether or not that's a fake, obviously, is unknown.

[Epignosis]

[colin, TSP, wilgy, pawn]

can't go wrong shooting in these 4

why tsp so low?

i literally took a list of all the players in the game, subtracted the players that were lock clear to me (including myself), and then subtracted the players I personally townread (like sabie and JJJ). that's what I ended up with. the only player who status is uncertain atm is epi, but 1) he's starting to do stuff and 2) I want to respect nanook's legacy by not POEing the player he thought was town.

[Alison]

why are people spinning wheels and concocting tinfoil out of an extremely clear situation

[Alison]

just shoot in the POE instead of giving me a headache please

[JaggedJimmyJay]

its been like 48 hrs since wilgy last posted

is this nornal for him

Sometimes he goes long stretches without posting, yes. I wouldn't say that is on its own power indicative of alignment -- which to mean in this state of affairs means it doesn't help his standing.

[sabie12]

its been like 48 hrs since wilgy last posted

is this nornal for him

Sometimes he goes long stretches without posting, yes. I wouldn't say that is on its own power indicative of alignment -- which to mean in this state of affairs means it doesn't help his standing.

I don't think I've ever seen him post much in a game but I haven't played many games with him.

[TonyStarkPrime]

@TonyStarkPrime why are Pawn and Wilgy not mafia?

they can be mafia. Pawn probably isn't 3p for reasons.

[TonyStarkPrime]

colin is most likely wolf I think, followed by pawn and then wilgy in that order.

[TonyStarkPrime]

and they're all probably more likely than epi or jay or alison

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would chop Colin, Pawn, or maybe Wilgy.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I would chop Colin, Pawn, or maybe Wilgy.

not gonna make the salad meme

[Hally]

why is colin more likely a wolf than wilgy or pawn?

[sabie12]

why is colin more likely a wolf than wilgy or pawn?

I think colin or pawn is more likely than wilgy only because I've seen wilgy do this before like not really post and then be town. I'll put my vote on pawn for now.

[VOTE: pawn] aubergine

[ColinIsCool]

I haven’t played drunk Mafia in a while but desperate times call for desperate measures

do poll titles usually carry such significance here?

let me tell you a mafia story. One time I was eleven, and we had just dealt out the cards assigned for mafia. It was a night start, so mafia (let's say player 8) killed someone (let's say player 7), and we woke up to the introductory flavor. In the introductory flavor, I presented in some detail how the mafia had plans to kill all of players 1-6. Then I killed player 7 and opened the day. Immediately:
Player 1: "so [player 8]'s the wolf, right"
Me: "okay redeal"

Okay I don’t know what the fuck this means

[ColinIsCool]

ok to make it clear for everyone

wisp is cop

he green checked long con

we are never killing wisp or long con ever

What

[Hally]

can people just read everything and then post

[ColinIsCool]

Anyway never -- absolutely never -- chop Wisp or Hally.

I’m inclined to believe Daisy now too because really, what kind of wolf just makes up claims like that

[ColinIsCool]

can people just read everything and then post

But then I get accused of not actually reading the thread

[Hally]

can people just read everything and then post

But then I get accused of not actually reading the thread

lol carry on

[ColinIsCool]

Honestly, silent redirects are like borderline bastard... That's pretty garbage

I’ve never known there to be any other kind

[ColinIsCool]

Whatever our setup preferences, let's try to refrain from groaning about the setup. That's never fun for a host to read. We all come from different backgrounds and are accustomed to different norms.

Anyone is always free to send a PM to Sloonei though with grievances. He's our moderator on duty.

Jay, vote for ... whoever you want

[ColinIsCool]

Anyone else that wouldn't kill Nanook? Maybe Kitsu? Let's WIFOM for days

I know literally nothing about Kitsu, other than I gave them a pass for the miller thing

[ColinIsCool]

is this a real question

Yes.

Do you have any general theory of the game, or are you just spouting random takes to maintain some image of involvement?

This latter portion of the post describes my feelings toward Tony and I might vote there.

[ColinIsCool]

ColinIsCool - claimed miller
Long Con - no claim?
TonyStarkPrime - no claim?
DrWilgy - no claim?
Pawn Lelouch - no claim?
Spacedaisy - claimed alignment cop
Wisp - claimed rolecard peeker
KitsuShel - claimed miller
sabie12 - no claim?
Epignosis - no claim?
Alison - claimed miller
JaggedJimmyJay - claimed vote thing
Hally - claimed miller + voyeur

is this the current state of all role claims?

I’m a miller + more but it’s probably in town’s best interests that I don’t say what

[ColinIsCool]

if daisy was redirected or something

whoever did that action knows the identity of the real 3p

if you are town, you MUST claim who you redirected daisy to

that will out the 3P

if it was a scum action they wont claim it but theyll probably off the 3P for us

I'll nip this.

If you are scum and have a controlled misdirect, claim your action. Pretend to be town. Get off the hook, we won't kill scum today. Do it now.

Is this like a Socratic trap or something

[ColinIsCool]

I know I’m always going to be a suspect but I feel like a POE of me, Wilgy and Pawn is just kinda wasting time. One pretty low-activity poster, one inscrutable low-poster and one guy who has barely posted at all, these lynches feel kind of by-default-because-why-not or too easy to push or become pushed by scum. Not saying those two AREN’T scum either, but if you asked me for evidence at this point, I’d have none.

I’m not drunk enough

[TonyStarkPrime]

can people just read everything and then post

no

[TonyStarkPrime]

I know I’m always going to be a suspect but I feel like a POE of me, Wilgy and Pawn is just kinda wasting time. One pretty low-activity poster, one inscrutable low-poster and one guy who has barely posted at all, these lynches feel kind of by-default-because-why-not or too easy to push or become pushed by scum. Not saying those two AREN’T scum either, but if you asked me for evidence at this point, I’d have none.

I’m not drunk enough

[ColinIsCool]

[VOTE: TONY] aubergine

got my eye on sabie too, feels a little passive in a discomfiting way (yes I know about the surgery but still)

[TonyStarkPrime]

if daisy was redirected or something

whoever did that action knows the identity of the real 3p

if you are town, you MUST claim who you redirected daisy to

that will out the 3P

if it was a scum action they wont claim it but theyll probably off the 3P for us

I'll nip this.

If you are scum and have a controlled misdirect, claim your action. Pretend to be town. Get off the hook, we won't kill scum today. Do it now.

Is this like a Socratic trap or something

no that would involve asking about horses or something. I'm just giving straight advice to the scum team

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I understand the current POE pool feeling too easy, or feeling default. Those aren't things I tend to concern myself with, because I view them as distant cousins of the gambler's fallacy. Still, I am open to hearing suspicions of/cases against the remainder of the game. If you accept the premise that today's claim shenanigans clear this group: Wisp, Hally, Long Con, and Spacedaisy, then you're left with the following names to pick at:

ColinIsCool
TonyStarkPrime
DrWilgy
KitsuShel
sabie12
Epignosis
Alison
JaggedJimmyJay
sprityo/Pawn Lelouch

None of these people are "cleared". So have at it. Tell me what your worries are. Tell them what your worries are. I direct this to anyone in general.

[sabie12]

I know I’m always going to be a suspect but I feel like a POE of me, Wilgy and Pawn is just kinda wasting time. One pretty low-activity poster, one inscrutable low-poster and one guy who has barely posted at all, these lynches feel kind of by-default-because-why-not or too easy to push or become pushed by scum. Not saying those two AREN’T scum either, but if you asked me for evidence at this point, I’d have none.

I’m not drunk enough

I was thinking this as well. Like maybe it's too easy which is why I chose to vote for pawn who I thought was most sketchy.

I am passive and discomforting thank you for noticing. Some great qualities.

I'm just a slow to start player sometimes. I observe and try to figure things out at my own pace. My playstyle is weird and offputting sometimes to people but eh it works for me so ima keep being me.