The Syndicate

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:49 pm Yeah okay Colin/TSP is spewed town. I buy it. Moving 'em into my supertown category.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:50 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:48 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:46 pm I have really nice info from my night actions. But guys do not claim your roles unless it is very much needed. I'd suggest claims from only those who are excessively scummy.

if it’s valuable info it’s probably better to claim it

Not right now probably. But you'll get killed n2 if you don't out it before the EOD PC.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm So one reason I bought into Nutella's claim was "it's complicated." Mine is too. In fact I had to wait for Sloonei to tell me what my night action was because it is dependent on the percentage of players that are civilians. Based on the night action I was given 70-79.9% of current players are civilians.

My role is apparently intended as a snowball stopper against the wolves, because the closer to parity they get the more powerful my night actions get.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:09 pm i voted tim and oddmerta

i wouldnt lock town spf yet

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm So one reason I bought into Nutella's claim was "it's complicated." Mine is too. In fact I had to wait for Sloonei to tell me what my night action was because it is dependent on the percentage of players that are civilians. Based on the night action I was given 70-79.9% of current players are civilians.

My role is apparently intended as a snowball stopper against the wolves, because the closer to parity they get the more powerful my night actions get.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 pm The following players are compatible with Nutella. Everyone else is incompatible. They are in order of compatibility from least to most. The bolded are also independently scummy. The bolded red are independently scummy and also scumread by me.

JPIC
Poison Chan
Radishes
Nook
Herm
Sprityo
Tim

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Timsup2nothin has been revealed as an Innocent Child.

D2 continues.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Timsup2nothin has been revealed as an Innocent Child.

D2 continues.

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:18 pm @sprityo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Justplayingitcool hi. i need each of you to role claim and say who you targeted last night. if you don’t i will punt you into the sun. thanks for your cooperation

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:57 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm So one reason I bought into Nutella's claim was "it's complicated." Mine is too. In fact I had to wait for Sloonei to tell me what my night action was because it is dependent on the percentage of players that are civilians. Based on the night action I was given 70-79.9% of current players are civilians.

My role is apparently intended as a snowball stopper against the wolves, because the closer to parity they get the more powerful my night actions get.

thats 14.7 and 16.8

so 15 or 16 or 17 civs, out of 21, the rest non-civs

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:18 pm @sprityo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Justplayingitcool hi. i need each of you to role claim and say who you targeted last night. if you don’t i will punt you into the sun. thanks for your cooperation

I’m not going to

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Timsup2nothin has been revealed as an Innocent Child.

D2 continues.

(this is a joke)

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm just got off the phone with thom yorke and he agrees with me that tim is probably wolf

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm just got off the phone with thom yorke and he agrees with me that tim is probably wolf

wow thanks thom

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm i have mech info that necessitates jpic, nanook and sprit full claim

there is very likely mafia in this group

i cannot be more specific about this. i’m not allowed

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:02 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm just got off the phone with thom yorke and he agrees with me that tim is probably wolf

wow thanks thom

"you're welcome" - thom

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm i have mech info that necessitates jpic, nanook and sprit full claim

there is very likely mafia in this group

i cannot be more specific about this. i’m not allowed

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Do you have information that will or will likely lead to the chop of a wolf or unfriendly neutral? If so, reveal it now. If not, reveal it never (or when whoever your info vindicates is on the chopping block or whatever).

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm like you're never getting nightkilled unless you reveal as innocent child so why be cagey

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm i have mech info that necessitates jpic, nanook and sprit full claim

there is very likely mafia in this group

i cannot be more specific about this. i’m not allowed

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:18 pm @sprityo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Justplayingitcool hi. i need each of you to role claim and say who you targeted last night. if you don’t i will punt you into the sun. thanks for your cooperation

I’m not going to

but you have to or i will kill you

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:01 pm i have mech info that necessitates jpic, nanook and sprit full claim

there is very likely mafia in this group

i cannot be more specific about this. i’m not allowed

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:03 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Do you have information that will or will likely lead to the chop of a wolf or unfriendly neutral? If so, reveal it now. If not, reveal it never (or when whoever your info vindicates is on the chopping block or whatever).

Yes it can but it would need a claim to get the proper chop. But the info I got I wouldn't want to get towns to claim but we would need scums to claim. It's very complicated. I would shut up.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:04 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:18 pm @sprityo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Justplayingitcool hi. i need each of you to role claim and say who you targeted last night. if you don’t i will punt you into the sun. thanks for your cooperation

I’m not going to

but you have to or i will kill you

I actually already spewed town so

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:05 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:03 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Do you have information that will or will likely lead to the chop of a wolf or unfriendly neutral? If so, reveal it now. If not, reveal it never (or when whoever your info vindicates is on the chopping block or whatever).

Yes it can but it would need a claim to get the proper chop. But the info I got I wouldn't want to get towns to claim but we would need scums to claim. It's very complicated. I would shut up.

Who designed mechanics in mafia? Like who was the first person who added a cop and was like “this is a good idea”

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:04 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm like you're never getting nightkilled unless you reveal as innocent child so why be cagey

We all gotta do what we gotta do. I had a bad EoD and the town core is tunneled. So my role really doesn't matter because it is nowhere near as good as Nutella's fake claim was and that didn't make anyone but Mac and me reassess. So trying to lay out all the different ranges and all the different powers is just busy work.

What all do is watch how various people push me and look for the wolves among them.

Mac's a big boy and I get where he's coming from. It's wrong, probably in a town way, but he's putting entirely too much confidence into his Nutella spew reads. When I flip green he'll remember I said that.

Unlike Mac, you were already a pretty hard town read. You're seeing the same obvious things as Mac, and I'm confident that you too will reassess when you find out that you are wrong.

I am really interested more in the peripherals that weren't necessarily town yesterday and are now getting lock cleared by the town core off Nutella spew, because that's an error.

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:57 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm So one reason I bought into Nutella's claim was "it's complicated." Mine is too. In fact I had to wait for Sloonei to tell me what my night action was because it is dependent on the percentage of players that are civilians. Based on the night action I was given 70-79.9% of current players are civilians.

My role is apparently intended as a snowball stopper against the wolves, because the closer to parity they get the more powerful my night actions get.

thats 14.7 and 16.8

so 15 or 16 or 17 civs, out of 21, the rest non-civs

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:06 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:05 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:03 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:58 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:54 pm Poison you should out all information before EOD.

I generally believe that heavily townread people should be outing their information before the end of the day phase immediately after they acquire that information. I think scum is practically forced into shooting the consensus townreads for the conceivable future because there's so many of them. That means you're likely to die before you out your information if you sit on it. Plus we have some evidence that there's a roleblocker or doctor or something who can keep you safe.

I can out something but if we are going to let scummy people claim first, I think I 'd out my information after that.

Do you have information that will or will likely lead to the chop of a wolf or unfriendly neutral? If so, reveal it now. If not, reveal it never (or when whoever your info vindicates is on the chopping block or whatever).

Yes it can but it would need a claim to get the proper chop. But the info I got I wouldn't want to get towns to claim but we would need scums to claim. It's very complicated. I would shut up.

Who designed mechanics in mafia? Like who was the first person who added a cop and was like “this is a good idea”

Cop?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:07 pm One reason to encourage caution here: having been in the front row of popcorn munchers to the last syndicate game with a day 1 wolf kill and no night 1 kill, I know full well that things can be a little shaky.

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:56 pm

tedxtr wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:03 am

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:59 pm Solid Town
tutuu
mac
tedxtr
sprityo
samusamu
poison

towny, some paranoia
Alison
DrWilgy
dyachei
Dizzy
Hally
Nanook
Tim
Oddmerta

Null
Colin
Long Con

Wafflin
Herm
Radish
spf

Slight scumlean
Jpic
FP-juliets


hm. I ended up putting more people in paranoia tier than I thought I would

@nutella talk about why you had those reads on dya, dizzy, nanook, tim and oddmerta

I don’t remember you talking about any of them prior to this

Sorry just got to this, my catchup was slowed down by a work meeting
I talked about tim and odd a bit in a response to poison last night. Though you had an interesting post about both of them that made me wonder if one or both of them could be wolf.
Think I've talked about nanook a bit as well, he feels towny but I'm always kind of wary of him.
Dya I don't really know how to read well but they had decent tone I thought. Dizzy I've seen slank like this as town before so just awaiting more from him before making a real judgment but leaning town.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 3:01 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:59 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:47 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:35 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:30 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 2:26 pm

juliets wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 1:28 pm Alright I finished reading nutella and I have similar thoughts to others who have just posted about her iso. There's not a lot there except for her scum read on me. She did, however, argue that Dr. Wilgy is town and ted is town which I agree with. I think what dilutes the reads she does have is how many posts she has that are about nothing important, like the soup posts and the joke posts. They overwhelm her other posts imo and that smacks of wolfy behavior. Up your post count and be seen as a presence by posting a lot about nothing.

But here's the rub. Like others before me have said, if she is wolf where are her teammates? There have been plenty of opportunities to run up a wagon on someone else. Did they give up early and are bussing her or voting on off wagons? It just doesn't feel right and that's a concern I have, though I still read her as scummy. I will vote her for now but read some other folks that I have null reads on and evaluate them.

Also I'll put together a reads list and post it.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

you know full well I am town and yet you are hopping on with empty reasons like I'm memeing a lot

nope.

What should I have seen about you that would let me know "full well" that you're town? My mind is not a closed door so talk to me.

I mean you know I'm town because you're a wolf

So I ask you to tell me why you're town and you answer by saying I already know you're town because I'm a wolf, instead of pointing to towny things you may have done. That's not very convincing and I'm not a wolf.

everything I've done has been towny because I'm town

I meme a lot that's just me
I've given lots of reads and takes and interactions

I vibe with this response but you realize how incredibly unhelpful it is yeah

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:06 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:04 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:56 pm like you're never getting nightkilled unless you reveal as innocent child so why be cagey

We all gotta do what we gotta do. I had a bad EoD and the town core is tunneled. So my role really doesn't matter because it is nowhere near as good as Nutella's fake claim was and that didn't make anyone but Mac and me reassess. So trying to lay out all the different ranges and all the different powers is just busy work.

What all do is watch how various people push me and look for the wolves among them.

Mac's a big boy and I get where he's coming from. It's wrong, probably in a town way, but he's putting entirely too much confidence into his Nutella spew reads. When I flip green he'll remember I said that.

Unlike Mac, you were already a pretty hard town read. You're seeing the same obvious things as Mac, and I'm confident that you too will reassess when you find out that you are wrong.

I am really interested more in the peripherals that weren't necessarily town yesterday and are now getting lock cleared by the town core off Nutella spew, because that's an error.

if you are town and the town core is tunnelled on you, then the most obvious thing for scum to do is sit back and eat pretzels while they watch you die. why did you open the day blasting mac instead of trying to see who doesn't want to put their hands on the tim wagon?

tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:08 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:07 pm One reason to encourage caution here: having been in the front row of popcorn munchers to the last syndicate game with a day 1 wolf kill and no night 1 kill, I know full well that things can be a little shaky.

amdibals in the zoo also had a day 1 wolf kill

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:06 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:04 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:59 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:18 pm @sprityo @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Justplayingitcool hi. i need each of you to role claim and say who you targeted last night. if you don’t i will punt you into the sun. thanks for your cooperation

I’m not going to

but you have to or i will kill you

I actually already spewed town so

nook please. just do as i ask