The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:58 am votes itt are not reflecting the poll so there is that

TonyStarkPrime 4 Voters: Vulgard, tedxtr, Ash Lael, Arete

that was the last TSP wagon i saw, and is hard to think 3Hs lynch would have just 2 votes

I'd like to point out that this is a very towny wagon formation from my perspective.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:07 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 am We did that it was called upick two
Nah needs to be 12/12 with itas and events :P
It had 2/3 of those! Hard pass on 12/12 tho
give me please again your poe Nanook

LC/wilgy/ted/112

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 am**

i am sorry i woke up so late, if i knew we will not have the VC i would be here

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:00 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:58 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:56 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:19 am Is it bad that I suspect Hally because they were the equivalent of mafia in the dream I had, even though we were on the same team in that dream?
This is stupid, I should stop. The in-game reason is because of their EoD, since I found it suspicious how they were gunning for TripleHaven, the slanker with 2 posts who understandably flipped VT.
I mean

That was me gunning for trip and people begrudgingly agreeing FMPOV

Definitely would not classify Hally as gunning for her lol
I suppose so. You didn't even publicly vote there, though. Were you voting TH at EoD?
Hally definitely added significant traction to the TH wagon.

Yeh. I was pushing for them most of the day so

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:00 am**

Votecount will ve posted when he gets to it, GMan said, fwiw

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:01 am**

I sense bad jujus with these slimey pushes on me

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:07 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 am We did that it was called upick two
Nah needs to be 12/12 with itas and events :P
It had 2/3 of those! Hard pass on 12/12 tho
give me please again your poe Nanook
LC/wilgy/ted/112

ok, day 1 was for low poster, please consider for day 2 a meaningful consistent poster lynch in the Poe. Like for eg Ted.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:24 am I don't know about you guys, but I think Michelle has been getting progressively townier. The take just above this post is something I really like. I don't think mafia would consider "who voted only on the poll is more suspicious, because showing your votes in the thread is a towny activity."

The conclusion is correct but the way you got there is inane

It’s an extremely simple thought that’s very easy to fake as mafia

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:32 am ...Wait. Only tutuu's vote on TripleHaven was actually written out in the thread, according to my "vote: triplehaven" search results.
What the hell? How did TH get lynched?

Votes in the poll are the ones that count

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:04 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:01 am I sense bad jujus with these slimey pushes on me

am I slimey? good to know

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:04 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am If so, then this is the scummiest CFD off TSP I have ever seen in my life.

Naw this is pretty normal for syndicate

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:05 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:32 am ...Wait. Only tutuu's vote on TripleHaven was actually written out in the thread, according to my "vote: triplehaven" search results.
What the hell? How did TH get lynched?
Votes in the poll are the ones that count

yes but wagonomics cannot be analyzed without the mention itt

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:06 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:24 am I don't know about you guys, but I think Michelle has been getting progressively townier. The take just above this post is something I really like. I don't think mafia would consider "who voted only on the poll is more suspicious, because showing your votes in the thread is a towny activity."
The conclusion is correct but the way you got there is inane

It’s an extremely simple thought that’s very easy to fake as mafia

I agree, it's very dumb logic. Get used to it when you play with me.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:08 am**

Nanook, I'm curious about something. We've recently played a game on MU where we misyeeted town LHF almost every day. Why did you gun for the most likely town LHF in this game, considering what happened in that game?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:10 am**

Like, if I were able to be around at EoD, I would yell at you not to kill TH. I'd bring that game up. But you did it anyway. Why?

Also, talk to me about ted and/or Long Con.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:13 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:59 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:56 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:55 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:07 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 am We did that it was called upick two
Nah needs to be 12/12 with itas and events :P
It had 2/3 of those! Hard pass on 12/12 tho
give me please again your poe Nanook
LC/wilgy/ted/112
ok, day 1 was for low poster, please consider for day 2 a meaningful consistent poster lynch in the Poe. Like for eg Ted.

Every day is for low posters, someone low posting doesn’t make them town

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:13 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:05 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:03 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:32 am ...Wait. Only tutuu's vote on TripleHaven was actually written out in the thread, according to my "vote: triplehaven" search results.
What the hell? How did TH get lynched?
Votes in the poll are the ones that count
yes but wagonomics cannot be analyzed without the mention itt

Wagonomics are overrated so

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:14 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:08 am Nanook, I'm curious about something. We've recently played a game on MU where we misyeeted town LHF almost every day. Why did you gun for the most likely town LHF in this game, considering what happened in that game?

I don’t think the two games are comparable

I also don’t believe in changing an approach based on a sample size of one

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:15 am**

I also didn’t want two thirds of those kills

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:15 am**

Nanook, smh... low posting is not equal with mafia
Aand wagonomics are helpful.

-2

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:17 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:10 am Like, if I were able to be around at EoD, I would yell at you not to kill TH. I'd bring that game up. But you did it anyway. Why?

Also, talk to me about ted and/or Long Con.

And I’d tell you the same thing I’m telling you now, it’s not the same game or circumstances

I’d also pointedly remind you that I didn’t want most of those people to die

I’d ALSO point out that getting rid of low posters early rather than later if they’re not townie is a good thing. Trip wasn’t townie, they were in the POE, they were a good kill. I stand by the process

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:17 am**

Low posting doesn’t make you town either, ffs

“But they’re low posting” isn’t a fucking reason not to kill someone by itself

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:19 am**

I prob am not dying unless there’s a big case on me or something

I’ll deal with the suspicion once there’s something to address beyond gut or whatever

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:19 am**

I’d actually prefer to kill the low posters in the POE all things being equal, a high poster is generally more likely to town tell eventually

Sometimes a low poster is obvs town sometimes they’re a null, in a sort by POE game where I have enough confident TRs I always want to get rid of the null low posters before the null high posters

It’s not fucking complicated

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:21 am**

Also like

With ted specifically I almost always want to kill him last in my POE

Cause if the POE is wrong and/or he’s town he’s gonna be an asset, and it’s not really his fault I can’t read him for shit and thus eternally POE him.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am Like, the TripleHaven wagon has no traction in any of Michelle's VCs. None.
I see tutuu's vote in the thread, but that's... it. And I'm SURE that there were at least four votes on TH at EoD, otherwise she wouldn't have been yeeted.
Did people just... silently vote in the poll without talking about it?

There were 6 votes on triple iirc

Its just that ppl write different things when voting

Looks like i was the only to write triplehaven, others must have written triple or tripl or th

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am Like, the TripleHaven wagon has no traction in any of Michelle's VCs. None.
I see tutuu's vote in the thread, but that's... it. And I'm SURE that there were at least four votes on TH at EoD, otherwise she wouldn't have been yeeted.
Did people just... silently vote in the poll without talking about it?
There were 6 votes on triple iirc

Its just that ppl write different things when voting

Looks like i was the only to write triplehaven, others must have written triple or tripl or th

didn't they use the voting color button?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:25 am**

Idk if other people did or not but I’m sure I didn’t

Mac’s rubbed off on me

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:21 am Also like

With ted specifically I almost always want to kill him last in my POE

Cause if the POE is wrong and/or he’s town he’s gonna be an asset, and it’s not really his fault I can’t read him for shit and thus eternally POE him.

i thought at this in a game but it became too late when i really decided to go for his head. Lynch order matters, we have to find an active wolf

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:04 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:01 am I sense bad jujus with these slimey pushes on me
am I slimey? good to know

I just imagined michelle covered in slime

hmmmmmmmm

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:27 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am Like, the TripleHaven wagon has no traction in any of Michelle's VCs. None.
I see tutuu's vote in the thread, but that's... it. And I'm SURE that there were at least four votes on TH at EoD, otherwise she wouldn't have been yeeted.
Did people just... silently vote in the poll without talking about it?
There were 6 votes on triple iirc

Its just that ppl write different things when voting

Looks like i was the only to write triplehaven, others must have written triple or tripl or th
didn't they use the voting color button?

Yea but u still manually write whatever u want in it

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:28 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:26 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:04 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:01 am I sense bad jujus with these slimey pushes on me
am I slimey? good to know
I just imagined michelle covered in slime

hmmmmmmmm

slime
[slʌɪm]
NOUN
an unpleasantly thick and slippery liquid substance.

ewwww

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:27 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am Like, the TripleHaven wagon has no traction in any of Michelle's VCs. None.
I see tutuu's vote in the thread, but that's... it. And I'm SURE that there were at least four votes on TH at EoD, otherwise she wouldn't have been yeeted.
Did people just... silently vote in the poll without talking about it?
There were 6 votes on triple iirc

Its just that ppl write different things when voting

Looks like i was the only to write triplehaven, others must have written triple or tripl or th
didn't they use the voting color button?
Yea but u still manually write whatever u want in it

each vote has attached the colour's name, aubergine, if you search in the browser'aubergine' you receive the votes casted using the vote button

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am**

No I don’t believe that at all

We don’t have to find an active scum, we just have to find a scum. Or find enough town that finding individual scum is irrelevant, which is how I’m approaching the game.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:32 am**

Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:49 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:46 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:44 am This is the first time I'm playing a game where you can't see who was voting where at EoD. This really hampers me when I can't be there for EoD to see the votes on the poll in real time.
is hard to be European
Fluff below, not very game-relevant.

Spoiler: show
I genuinely struggle with this every day. Most of my friends are American. If I want to interact with them, I have to stay up late, but then I don't get enough sleep. If I want enough sleep, then I must go to bed earlier, which means I can't interact with most of my friends. I haven't figured out how to balance the two and become content with the situation.

It's a little sad. And obviously causes trouble when the EoD is at an hour like this, but that's another thing entirely.
Anyhow, I wouldn't clear TSP. He did write one very towny post, but I don't think it was in the "clearing" territory. I could see this come from mafia in some worlds.

U have no idea how much i can emphatize with this buddy (the thing in the spoiler)

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:32 am**

Like if we go three days without catching a scum that’s when it’s time to worry and start reassessing the towncore

Otherwise I would be very surprised if there’s more than one mafia in my towncore and that’s a problem for late game if and only if the current POE fails

Until then I’m on cruise control cause I’m relatively certain that the game is at least 90% solved

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:32 am**

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 am**

iirc this was the triple haven wagon:

Nanook gunned or it
Hally sheeped
Tony self-pressed there
DrWilgy joined it cuz Tony told him to
Arete joined
I was the final vote i think. Me or Arete, could have been the other way around

[mention]Vulgard[/mention]

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:38 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:27 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:24 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Vulgard wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:35 am Like, the TripleHaven wagon has no traction in any of Michelle's VCs. None.
I see tutuu's vote in the thread, but that's... it. And I'm SURE that there were at least four votes on TH at EoD, otherwise she wouldn't have been yeeted.
Did people just... silently vote in the poll without talking about it?
There were 6 votes on triple iirc

Its just that ppl write different things when voting

Looks like i was the only to write triplehaven, others must have written triple or tripl or th
didn't they use the voting color button?
Yea but u still manually write whatever u want in it
each vote has attached the colour's name, aubergine, if you search in the browser'aubergine' you receive the votes casted using the vote button

it doesnt work for me sweetie but maybe u managed to figure it out

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:39 am**

Pretty terrible decision if you’re a villager and plan to vote me somewhere during the day without asking me anything in advance

I’ll answer queries right now, it’s the night phase after all.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:41 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am No I don’t believe that at all

We don’t have to find an active scum, we just have to find a scum. Or find enough town that finding individual scum is irrelevant, which is how I’m approaching the game.

i do believe that though, but i can understand your take too

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:42 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:39 am Pretty terrible decision if you’re a villager and plan to vote me somewhere during the day without asking me anything in advance

I’ll answer queries right now, it’s the night phase after all.

explain me your reads on me and Poison pls

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am No I don’t believe that at all

We don’t have to find an active scum, we just have to find a scum. Or find enough town that finding individual scum is irrelevant, which is how I’m approaching the game.

i do believe that though, but i can understand your take too

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am**

I’ve ran the read on you briefly in my wall

Also explained it before you actually started solving

The Poison one it’s just what it is, I’m not complicating. If you think it’s TMI then idk what to tell you, I’ll let myself get fooled if this is Poison’s scum game but she’s playing an awesome game if she’s a wolf and I think you’re just being tunneled because she didn’t cast a simple vote on you and instead “shaded you”.

From my perspective, talking about a scum read and not voting them isn’t “shading” which I believe is what your read on Poison is, I completely disagree.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:49 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:44 am @G-Man please give us the final VC sir

All good things come to those who wait. I’ll get the poll pic posted after I break the fast.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:34 am iirc this was the triple haven wagon:

Nanook gunned or it
Hally sheeped
Tony self-pressed there
DrWilgy joined it cuz Tony told him to
Arete joined
I was the final vote i think. Me or Arete, could have been the other way around

@Vulgard

Imagine Tony/Wilgy w/w.

I think I understand your approach now, Nanook. I don't personally agree with it, but I won't bother you because you play differently. That's not how this is supposed to work.
Are you fully confident about your entire towncore in light of the TH flip and/or wagonomics at EoD1?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:51 am**

And one more question -- I know you've talked about it before, but now you have the entirety of EoD in hindsight to back this up. Why is TSP not in your PoE?

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am I’ve ran the read on you briefly in my wall

Also explained it before you actually started solving

The Poison one it’s just what it is, I’m not complicating. If you think it’s TMI then idk what to tell you, I’ll let myself get fooled if this is Poison’s scum game but she’s playing an awesome game if she’s a wolf and I think you’re just being tunneled because she didn’t cast a simple vote on you and instead “shaded you”.

From my perspective, talking about a scum read and not voting them isn’t “shading” which I believe is what your read on Poison is, I completely disagree.

explain again, hope you didn't forget about it.

Poison was quicker to cast the vote iirc, playing at MU and always having the voting button you become addicted to use it and i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote. Just doesn't sit right with her to do this.
She showed she can play a pretty good scum game. Her tone after a moment of this game was like she didn't care about my AI.

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:04 am**

G-Man wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:49 am
Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:44 am @G-Man please give us the final VC sir

All good things come to those who wait. I’ll get the poll pic posted after I break the fast.

okie dokie

Posted: **Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:21 am**

Michelle wrote: ↑Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote

is this referencing something that she said? I believe there's context that I'm missing.

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