Team Fortress Mafia [END]

[NotAnAxehole]

Marmot has checked in, I am sticking to the plan of sheeping Marmot.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I can no longer defend you now that you've violated your contract by not sheeping Marmot. You have some time to rectify this.

[NotAnAxehole]

Also, Marmot I do think we should vote Gavial ftr.

[Gavial]

I’m town so that’s not a good idea.
If I was wolf, the people who town read me wouldn’t have all dropped their town read on me.

[Gavial]

Like I don’t even honestly know why people think I’m wolf.
What was y’all initial reason for town reading me anyway?

[Gavial]

@Dolby
@NotAnAxehole

[Gavial]

Ah I know maybe they are following the “One” game I had like Mac and Guillo did.

[Gavial]

I think all 4 are probably town, least certain would probably be Guillo but I’m pretty sure all are town.

[Marmot]

Idk, it seems clear to me, granted I'm quite tired but

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

[Marmot]

I mean if I'm being 100% honest. I don't know if it's Jack or Nanook, but I would personally feel better if it was Nanook just trying to desperately save Sabie.

I'm leaning nanook atm, because his response is "gav tmi'd" and I don't agree with it.

[Guillotine]

@sabie12 December 28th at 6pm we're playing video mafia, you should come if you can, maybe you'll actually survive a game day lol

I dont know what it means yet but this looks like Nanook expected Sabie to flip that day.

[Guillotine]

Remember when i said Falcon once raised a red flag for me?
It was this exchange with them. It hit me as they wanted to avoid yeeting Sabie.

► Show Spoiler

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

Can you show me where they commented on their wagon?


I do see them mentioning trying to be here for EOD, which would indicate they wouldn't be around for awhile.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.


Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

I don't put nulls into my POE until later in a game, not D1.

Like, if I'm Maf, and a player says they won't be around til EOD, if even then, I would find a reason to join that wagon

[Guillotine]

But if hen soon after the cfd happened and it looked like NotAnAxehole read the thread and saw an opening there to try to save Sabie and went for it.

It’s so blantant though. I dont see a wolf pulling that shit off and risking looking so obvious unless TWTBW does not apply for people like NAA

[Guillotine]

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.


Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

I feel as tho Sig has dipped after getting D0 heat

Again didn't just dip, and really didn't get any heat since I don't consider one tunneling towny to be heat.

And again I said pre game i'd be busy, I work sorry can't be around playing mafia 24/7.

I find these two posts especially bad given it allowed falcon to avoid a wagon and he's played enough with me anyway.

For the dizzy thing, the only thing I see from him suspecting me was an agreement with Gullio and that's so nonsensical i'm ignoring it and the fact he didn't like how i described Gavil playstyle, which sorry I stick by that. I liked his post, he was posting early content, and that's that.

"Allowed falcon to avoid a wagon" says the man who voted off both major wagons

This makes Nanook and Sig not part of a team in my opinion.
The ironic part of this is that Nanook expected Sabie to flip but then avoided yeeting her and CFDed Seanzie.

[NotAnAxehole]

But if hen soon after the cfd happened and it looked like NotAnAxehole read the thread and saw an opening there to try to save Sabie and went for it.

It’s so blantant though. I dont see a wolf pulling that shit off and risking looking so obvious unless TWTBW does not apply for people like NAA

It depends how you look at it to be honest. The situation specifically that occurred D1 is unlikely to come from wolf!NAA, but the general idea of a last minute save is 100% within the wolf!NAA playbook. I hope that makes sense, and helps you with your read.

[NotAnAxehole]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

[NotAnAxehole]

Actually, add Mac in there after Gavial if Nanook flips green.

[NotAnAxehole]

My biggest issue with the nanook saving sabie thing is it seems so far off what I remember his mafia meta to be? I do think It"s been awhile since we played though.

Nanook yoloing onto his teammate's counterwagon d1 is entirely on brand.

If Nanook flips green, we should take some time tomorrow to remember this take, because Mac knows Nanook yolo'ing eod is hardly alignment indicative.

[NotAnAxehole]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME have I covered all flip eventualities, or did I miss any that spew my alignment?

[Guillotine]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

[NotAnAxehole]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

It was Seanzie or death

[Guillotine]

Well thanks to you Seanzie became an option. But before Seanzie Gavial and Sig were her counterwagons, she self preserved onto Gavial but when Seanzie became an option she switched to him. Why do that?

[NotAnAxehole]

Well thanks to you Seanzie became an option. But before Seanzie Gavial and Sig were her counterwagons, she self preserved onto Gavial but when Seanzie became an option she switched to him. Why do that?

I mean, from my perspective, or hers? Hers is obvious, Seanzie was the only option to live.

[Guillotine]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

It was Seanzie or death

Sabie was 100% expecting death already.

[Guillotine]

So did Nanook

[NotAnAxehole]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

It was Seanzie or death

Sabie was 100% expecting death already.

Yeah, I said this 100x, Mafia were playing as though Sabie as eod D1 approached.

[NotAnAxehole]

It's like now... Mafia are assuming Nanook is dying today (regardless of his alignment). I'm willing to CFD if Marmot is feeling frisky, but I'm probably not going to get anything going myself on account of no one will listen to me.

[Guillotine]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

It was Seanzie or death

Sabie was 100% expecting death already.

Yeah, I said this 100x, Mafia were playing as though Sabie as eod D1 approached.

I may have missed it and refuse to see it because up until later yesterday i saw you as a troll that could not be taken seriously. But now i realize that if you are town i have to try to work with you or otherwise scum may try to exploit my tunnel and dislike for tour play style.

[Guillotine]

It's like now... Mafia are assuming Nanook is dying today (regardless of his alignment). I'm willing to CFD if Marmot is feeling frisky, but I'm probably not going to get anything going myself on account of no one will listen to me.

Can you blame us after what happened with Seanzie?

[Guillotine]

Wilgy is here but not here.

[NotAnAxehole]

If Nanook flips red, I want to kill Falcon and Gavial, in that order.
If Nanook flips green, I want to kill Gavial and Falcon, in that order.

Is this reasonable given the game state?

I dont know… im more inclined to want Gavial and Sig in that order for the simple fact that Sabie avoided those two and chose to self preserve onto Seanzie in the end.

It was Seanzie or death

Sabie was 100% expecting death already.

Yeah, I said this 100x, Mafia were playing as though Sabie as eod D1 approached.

I may have missed it and refuse to see it because up until later yesterday i saw you as a troll that could not be taken seriously. But now i realize that if you are town i have to try to work with you or otherwise scum may try to exploit my tunnel and dislike for tour play style.

We have to remember that the only thing preventing mafia from being ahead right now is the excessive amounts of saves & roleblocks in this role madness. The situation can rapidly change with 1 town flip and a botched night.

[NotAnAxehole]

It's like now... Mafia are assuming Nanook is dying today (regardless of his alignment). I'm willing to CFD if Marmot is feeling frisky, but I'm probably not going to get anything going myself on account of no one will listen to me.

Can you blame us after what happened with Seanzie?

I guess that's where we differ on views, I see my flip onto Seanzie as extremely towny... And very wrong

[Guillotine]

It's like now... Mafia are assuming Nanook is dying today (regardless of his alignment). I'm willing to CFD if Marmot is feeling frisky, but I'm probably not going to get anything going myself on account of no one will listen to me.

Can you blame us after what happened with Seanzie?

I guess that's where we differ on views, I see my flip onto Seanzie as extremely towny... And very wrong

That is the key there.

Wrong. CFDs are generally anti-town as it violates a consensus reached by the majority of parties.
Your CFD killed a townie and made us waste a day yeeting Sabie.
But maybe it was not all a waste if Nanook flips wolf.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Marmot has checked in, I am sticking to the plan of sheeping Marmot.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I can no longer defend you now that you've violated your contract by not sheeping Marmot. You have some time to rectify this.

Sorry I've been told self voting is

g a m e t h r o w i n g

[NotAnAxehole]

It's like now... Mafia are assuming Nanook is dying today (regardless of his alignment). I'm willing to CFD if Marmot is feeling frisky, but I'm probably not going to get anything going myself on account of no one will listen to me.

Can you blame us after what happened with Seanzie?

I guess that's where we differ on views, I see my flip onto Seanzie as extremely towny... And very wrong

That is the key there.

Wrong. CFDs are generally anti-town as it violates a consensus reached by the majority of parties.
Your CFD killed a townie and made us waste a day yeeting Sabie.
But maybe it was not all a waste if Nanook flips wolf.

I disagree, but we don't really need to dive into it, from my PoV if a CFD successfully occurs, then it negates the idea that there ever was a majority consensus.

[NotAnAxehole]

Marmot has checked in, I am sticking to the plan of sheeping Marmot.

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME I can no longer defend you now that you've violated your contract by not sheeping Marmot. You have some time to rectify this.

Sorry I've been told self voting is

g a m e t h r o w i n g

You already... The remainder of this sentence has been censored, and should not be interpreted in any way. I assume not liability for your interpretation of what I have not said.

Also, you shouldn't use that word, it's against the r u l e s

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It's ok last time I was told I was gamethrowing I had a perfect towncore

[Guillotine]

Gav could very well be Maf. He had an odd entrance re: my RNG POE, claiming later he liked the list (save LP)...it's a RNG list at the beginning of the game, there's nothing to like. Most of the player list hadn't even posted.


Then Gav said he'd sheep me. Now he has me as a null read, which is something that Gav rarely does w/ anybody, let alone myself. To date, in no game Gav & I have played has he ever had me as null. It's either town or scum, there's no in between w/ Gav


He's been soft on my slot, very out of character. I've made mention of it already. Gav is not really in his town range IMO. Definitely could be scum

Yeah, he actually could. Last game I played where Gavial was mafia, everyone kept town reading him and excusing his bad reads because "oh well, it's just Gavial, he usually doesn't make sense". He tunnelled and had a very static view of the game. I've seen him act similarly as town though, which is the problem. But some of his takes are just too far removed from reality to believe.

I'd vote him out every time over someone else I'm unsure of though.

Interesting. Maybe Dyslexicon died because of this.

[Guillotine]

I'm way too impatient.

Town people:
Guillo
Sean
Tony
Martin
Lime

I'm unsure on Gavial, don't care if he dies.

Unsure on Falcon, but my iffy read on him was more based off of his interaction with Gavial. Still think if Gavial is mafia or Falcon is, the other is likely to be. Outside of this though, I don't really have any problems with Falcon.

Now if both Falcon and Gavial are scum. That surely warrants a night kill.

[Guillotine]

Is this why you want Gavial and Falcon? @NotAnAxehole

[NotAnAxehole]

It's ok last time I was told I was gamethrowing I had a perfect towncore

FTR, I think you'll flip green, but I have to vote with Marmot for... Reasons that you're aware.

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Guillotine]

I think Gavial has TMIed in various instances, km definitely down to kill off Gavial next, like if Gavial reaches F3 with me I’d quick vote him tbh.
But then again, the same i coukd say about NAA.

I dont think i will ever trust those two in a F3

[Marmot]

Remember when i said Falcon once raised a red flag for me?
It was this exchange with them. It hit me as they wanted to avoid yeeting Sabie.

► Show Spoiler

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

Can you show me where they commented on their wagon?


I do see them mentioning trying to be here for EOD, which would indicate they wouldn't be around for awhile.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.


Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

I don't put nulls into my POE until later in a game, not D1.

Like, if I'm Maf, and a player says they won't be around til EOD, if even then, I would find a reason to join that wagon

I buy it, I'll add falcon to the scumreads list.

Nanook suspecting Gav for a TMI read related to falcon is probably damning for him too.

[Guillotine]

I think it would be healthy if we had a CW no?

I repeat. A CW not a CFD, who is the definite second option to Nanook right now?

[Guillotine]

Another thing i forgot to comment on. I dont think Dig snd Macdougall are ever a team

[Guillotine]

Sig and Mac**

[falcon45ca]

Remember when i said Falcon once raised a red flag for me?
It was this exchange with them. It hit me as they wanted to avoid yeeting Sabie.

► Show Spoiler

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

Can you show me where they commented on their wagon?


I do see them mentioning trying to be here for EOD, which would indicate they wouldn't be around for awhile.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.


Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

I don't put nulls into my POE until later in a game, not D1.

Like, if I'm Maf, and a player says they won't be around til EOD, if even then, I would find a reason to join that wagon

I buy it, I'll add falcon to the scumreads list.

Nanook suspecting Gav for a TMI read related to falcon is probably damning for him too.

Damning for who?

[Marmot]

Remember when i said Falcon once raised a red flag for me?
It was this exchange with them. It hit me as they wanted to avoid yeeting Sabie.

► Show Spoiler

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

I could vote sabie sig or maybe nanook

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Sabie not fighting their chop and going silent is probably scum avoiding spew now.

Is there any indication they are aware of their wagon?

Yes they commented before and then went poof. ISO them.

Can you show me where they commented on their wagon?


I do see them mentioning trying to be here for EOD, which would indicate they wouldn't be around for awhile.

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

Watchers should be enough to deter Mafia from trying to use a Pyro airblast to create a False Mafia confirm.
And if Mafia does try to double roleblock one of their own to manually destroy the building the Waters should pick that up and we heavily push the roleblocker who was not supposed to be there.

It's the very post they voted for Gavial, at that time they already had 6 votes on them, SABIE DEFINITELY KNOWS THAT THEY ARE MAIN WAGON

OK, I see what you're talking about.


Still, given they did mention prior to this when they voted Marmot they'd try and make EOD, the sudden push on Sabie makes me pause.

[VOTE: Sig] aubergine

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine


Feel opportunistic on Sabie

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

Yes, im making sure to take advantage of the opportunity to lynch scum, if that is what you mean with being opportunistic.

Do you townread Sabie then?

I don't see a reason for 7 votes on them currently, which makes me think there's a wolf push on the slot.


My read off their ISO is null, I don't feel strongly either way. It doesn't read scummy enough for 7 votes, so by that virtue I'm town leaning them.

If Sabie is null they are PoE no?

Like in my case. I never lynch my townreads, fight hard to chop my scum reads but if there is no traction for my scum reads, nulls aka PoE is fine too.

I don't put nulls into my POE until later in a game, not D1.

Like, if I'm Maf, and a player says they won't be around til EOD, if even then, I would find a reason to join that wagon

I buy it, I'll add falcon to the scumreads list.

Nanook suspecting Gav for a TMI read related to falcon is probably damning for him too.

Damning for who?

If you're scum, I think it's a worse look for Nanook.

[Marmot]

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

I do agree on the counterwagon proposal, especially if we're wrong.