The Syndicate

Cobalt wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:Meh, I don't scum-slip (and that sounds super gross ), however subtly. You asked everyone to give an opinion of your sig case. I gave it. I finally see what you're saying - that I didn't state my own personal suspicion of sig at the time that it would have been more prudent to do so. I get it. But at this point, I don't really know how to convince you that I'm telling the truth except that I had that suspicion that I failed to share with the rest of the class, I agreed with your case, and I voted what I believed and agreed with. Turn your tunnel vision off - you've seriously got the wrong gal, and I'd really like to continue baddie-hunting and win as a civ.

I've also stated my suspects. Cobalt is Baddie McBadderson and I've been after that for quite some time. I liked the last case on Black Rock and could see her as a baddie. Epi 2.0 has been giving me some baddie vibes and I've said why in an earlier post. Those are three off the top of my head. See other posts for other suspects I may have forgotten to share here.

Okay first of all you scummy ass fart in the breeze, let me give you a lesson on Playing Mafia 101, mmkay? Trotting around going "I don't scum-slip" from your infallible high horse not only makes you look like an EGREGIOUS snob but it also makes you look that much worse. Acting like you're perfect and looking down on people for merely expressing significant suspicion of you is classic scum slip right out of said Mafia 101 textbook, so FANTASTIC job contradicting yourself.

If you really want the scummiest Baddie McBadderson out of everyone here then look in the damn mirror and behold sis, because if you're gonna try to throw me under a train then BY ALL MEANS, EVERYONE PLEASE LYNCH ME TOMORROW. Because when I flip civ your infallible perfect self will be knocked right on your pancake ass off your high horse at which point you may be crucified to the town's content.

GOODBYE.

Cobalt wrote:Changed my vote from Nijuu to Scum Rock because I'm not letting her get away for another phase. After Sloonei died I was all set to go after Blooper but upon further examination it may have been a framejob considering Sloonei's case against her.

Cobalt wrote:Wow, that was abrasive, lmao. All in good fun, Blooper. Just my own brand of dragging, GTF style.

Golden wrote:Yeah, it's definitely been a clear part of Cobalt's style.

I could see myself shifting my vote to Black Rock, but for now I like it on Cobalt.

SVS, let me provide you with a brief synopsis. Bound to miss stuff, because it's just my own perspective but hopefully it helps you.

Mafia one had Sig and G-Man. They also tried and failed to kill Sloonei, and successfully killed epi 1.0 and FZ.

Mafia two had Long Con. They tried to kill me and bass and successfully killed sloonei. They also had a missing (possibly blocked) kill where we don't know the identity of the potential victim or even if a NK was sent in.

G-Man was caught because TGG subbed out after epi was allowed to sub back in. I have raised the question as to whether or not he was upset about epi subbing in because epi was on to one of his teammates, but this hasn't been resolved yet.

The people around currently who seem to have the most people suspicious of them are Cobalt, BR, Ninja and nutella, so they might be good places to form opinions to begin with.

TH didn't particularly have any heat that I can think of, so you probably have a bit of time to catch up.

Golden wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Nobody's taking to my ninja case, i worked so hard on that thing

I just don't think its a case for today, but it's still an important one.

Epignosis wrote:I would vote nijuu. She's probably bad. I'll tell anyone why if that person asks politely.

Golden wrote:Epi, would you please tell me why you think ninja is bad.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:

Dom wrote:DRAGON D. LUFFY IS REPLACING BULLZEYE

SVS IS REPLACING TURNIP HEAD


NEITHER ARE LYNCHABLE TODAY

What? No, I'm not.

You didn't even ask me about this.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:lol, i'll ask dom if he meant me instead of DDL. i don't have a role card

nijuukyugou wrote:

FZ. wrote: Epig is a mystery. I don't think anyone can deny he's posting less than he did on day 1. He wanted LC out, but what I want to check later is, did he continue going after him strongly when he came back. If it was as strong, I think he can't be from his team, though it's possible, but if he subtly backed off without making it too obvious, it's possible. I think I recall he voted for G-man both days, and when I asked him what he would do, he said he doesn't want a tie. That made me feel better about him, because I think I know what his role was before. But the point is he didn't vote for LC but G-man. As for the other team, his exchange with G-man seems genuine, so I doubt he's on that team. Maybe he's an independent who doesn't care as much who wins and is laying low to not get NK again.

^^ This. I felt good about Epi 1.0 (which I suppose I should never feel), but have been feeling less so with 2.0, especially since he stopped gunning for LC so hard and didn't even vote him. Although he's never quite quiet, he's certainly quieter in his second incarnation, quieter than I'm used to (but then again, I'm also used to his hosting, so).

nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It should be clear that I support a Long Con or Cobalt lynch too, but I have only one vote.

Indeed, sir - I remember this post of yours. However, the point is you chose to vote G-Man in the end.

And what does that indicate to you?

That you were less willing to vote LC the second time around when he was actually up for a lynch (after your first incarnation had died), which was odd, given how hard you went after him Day 1. Could be indicative of a team/alignment change.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:hey gang. i'm a real boy now, replacing Bullzeye.

general question for all y'all who care to aid a replacer in need:

what are the most important details of the game so far and the current climate of the game that i must know to adequately grasp what's going on?

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:Yeah, it's definitely been a clear part of Cobalt's style.

I could see myself shifting my vote to Black Rock, but for now I like it on Cobalt.

SVS, let me provide you with a brief synopsis. Bound to miss stuff, because it's just my own perspective but hopefully it helps you.

Mafia one had Sig and G-Man. They also tried and failed to kill Sloonei, and successfully killed epi 1.0 and FZ.

Mafia two had Long Con. They tried to kill me and bass and successfully killed sloonei. They also had a missing (possibly blocked) kill where we don't know the identity of the potential victim or even if a NK was sent in.

G-Man was caught because TGG subbed out after epi was allowed to sub back in. I have raised the question as to whether or not he was upset about epi subbing in because epi was on to one of his teammates, but this hasn't been resolved yet.

The people around currently who seem to have the most people suspicious of them are Cobalt, BR, Ninja and nutella, so they might be good places to form opinions to begin with.

TH didn't particularly have any heat that I can think of, so you probably have a bit of time to catch up.

Thanks, Golden. To your eyes, why was Sloonei so high profile? I am in for the night, and plan to start reading back some. I was going to start with suspects, but perhaps I will start with Sloonei.

Cobalt wrote:If you don't lynch Black Rock and Nijuu after I flip civ, I will personally come back to haunt you.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Black Rock, you seem to be heavily suspected right now. so i'm going to ask you to explain what the case against you has been to this point. if time permits you can also explain why the case is incorrect, but that's less important to me at the moment.

Black Rock wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Black Rock, you seem to be heavily suspected right now. so i'm going to ask you to explain what the case against you has been to this point. if time permits you can also explain why the case is incorrect, but that's less important to me at the moment.

Wouldn't that be just as important?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:could anyone please let me know which players are dead right now? i don't think the OP reflects all of them yet.

Dom wrote:Player List:

Dead:
SVS - lynched Day 1 - Oscar Hammerstein II
Epignosis - killed Night 1
sig - Lynched Day 3 - Starlight Express
Long Con - Lynched Day 4 - Frank Wildhorn

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:is there significant evidence against Cobalt, or has he drawn the ire of players primarily because of his abrasive style?

Epignosis wrote:This won't mean much to most of you, but it's why I think nijuu is bad.

nijuukyugou wrote:

FZ. wrote: Epig is a mystery. I don't think anyone can deny he's posting less than he did on day 1. He wanted LC out, but what I want to check later is, did he continue going after him strongly when he came back. If it was as strong, I think he can't be from his team, though it's possible, but if he subtly backed off without making it too obvious, it's possible. I think I recall he voted for G-man both days, and when I asked him what he would do, he said he doesn't want a tie. That made me feel better about him, because I think I know what his role was before. But the point is he didn't vote for LC but G-man. As for the other team, his exchange with G-man seems genuine, so I doubt he's on that team. Maybe he's an independent who doesn't care as much who wins and is laying low to not get NK again.

^^ This. I felt good about Epi 1.0 (which I suppose I should never feel), but have been feeling less so with 2.0, especially since he stopped gunning for LC so hard and didn't even vote him. Although he's never quite quiet, he's certainly quieter in his second incarnation, quieter than I'm used to (but then again, I'm also used to his hosting, so).

nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:

Epignosis wrote:

Epignosis wrote:It should be clear that I support a Long Con or Cobalt lynch too, but I have only one vote.

Indeed, sir - I remember this post of yours. However, the point is you chose to vote G-Man in the end.

And what does that indicate to you?

That you were less willing to vote LC the second time around when he was actually up for a lynch (after your first incarnation had died), which was odd, given how hard you went after him Day 1. Could be indicative of a team/alignment change.

I gave her an opportunity to speak one way or the other about me. To say what she thought. Instead, she reiterated possibilities. "Could be indicative of."

That's mincing words.

That's equivocation.

That's what Mafia do.

timmer wrote:I've just reread Black Rock, and I'm not liking what I read.

No listed Day 1 vote.

Night 1 posted this:

"I think Golden brought up Hedgeowl and I do what to look more into what he was saying there and where it went from there. I will be looking more seriously at Cobalt and I will read LC. I also want to look an nutella and TH. nutella because some of her earlier day 1 posts seemed too agreeable and TH because."

That's a big Night 1 net to cast. I note not only the number of people she listed, but the wording difference between Cobalt and Long Con. "will read Long Con" vs "looking more seriously at Cobalt". The LC comment feels passive, secondary.

Also night 1: "I have no real suspicion of LC."

And also: "I have some suspicion of Cobalt, he is new to me but he seems to be basing his LC suspicion on a different game and some things he says seem off. I'm watching Bass as well."

So we've got Cobalt, Long Con, Nutella, Turnip Head And Bass, all night 1 to be watched.

Day 2: "I'm voting Bass now. I am certain he is bad."

Also: "When you are asking me about Bass have you taken the time to read his posts. Particularly when he does and doesn't mention LC and the context. If you notice he asks Epig a few questions abput LC on day 0 and doesn't again bring him up until night 1. Then he comes in and gives some vague suspicion about vibes and doesn't follow through on anything. From there it only gets worse. His thoughts are the threads thoughts. He's hiding behind everyone elses ideas. The more I read his posts the more certain I am."

Some minor comments about TH.

So Day 2 there is NO talk about Long Con (except for once indirectly, referring to how Bass mentions him). NO talk about Cobalt. NO talk of Nutella. Mild talk of TH, much of it banter. And then full on CERTAINTY about Bass.

So we went from five names to 2, and really just 1.

I'LL PUT THIS IN CAPS FOR EFFECT. THIS WAS THE DAY COBALT GOT ALL OF THE VOTES AND TRIED TO APPARENTLY LYNCH LONG CON. BR said she would look into them, the Cobalt/Long Con shitstorm a-brewed, and she never mentioned any of it.

Day 3: "Just did a huge catch up. Why is TH so forgettable this game. I can't think of any of his opinions." Starts right into another of her listed suspicions that no one is really on, note that TH is absent from the game clearly already at this point.

Nutella mentions sig looking bad. BR: "I missed that, I didn't read the green text. Switching my vote now." Never mentioned sig before this point, but just jumps right on there.

Later same day when listing her suspicions to Golden: "I have several people on my not so naughty list. I haven't seen a reason to mention them because I don't suspect them. I do however believe Gman should be lynched, as well as Bass. I think Gman should probably go first. I however don't believe LC killed Epignosis. It's not his style. I have been trying to stay out of the whole LC thing though. I want to hear enough out of TH to believe him to be good. (I know you technically didn't want to hear about TH and Bass but I don't want them to think I forgot about them.) I'm not seeing what FZ is seeing in Splints. Not sure what to make of you yet Golden. I always lean civ so I have put you in neutral to be on the safe side. I am a personal reader so these newer guys to me "

Look at how many people she's mentioned in there, but doesn't even bother to mention sig who she just jumped on? Also, that's another defence of LC.

Later: "I don't think LC was in on shenanigans with Cobalt. I read it as genuine frustration on both their parts." Another defence of LC.

BR voted sig. So here we had a day where she jumped on an easy bandwagon without hardly any thought. Supported Long Con. And still talked about the absent TH and Bass and now G-Man who was already clearly imploding.

Day 4: states right away she is voting G-Man. REMEMBER THIS LYNCH WAS BETWEEN LONG CON AND G-MAN.

Spends the day picking little fights with MM and FZ. Still lists Bass as her main suspect.

"MM, mostly I want to lynch Gman and Bass in that order. That will give TH plenty of time to come back and explain his absence and non-involvement." Not really mentioning Long Con at all.

Day 5: easy peasy voted for G-Man. We all did.

Day 6 has begun with BR making a sort of comment about TinyBubbles maybe being suspicious.


I encourage people to read her posts. I strongly believe BR is bad. She's barely mentioned the baddies who were lynched while they were alive except to defend them. Except for G-Man who was too obvious, but even there, he made a nice way to try to defend Long Con.

I believe BR is bad and she will get my vote today, most likely. Sorry for the length of the post.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:another question to anyone who can answer:

has any living player here played with Cobalt prior to this game? i have some surface observations about his approach to mafia relevant to reading his alignment, but i would prefer the benefit of this insight before sharing.

timmer wrote:In short (too late), Golden talks up BR being bad, but too often ends up voting someone else.

Golden wrote:Yeah, you are seeing what I'm seeing on BR timmer, I'm glad someone else sees it.

Golden wrote:Oh, one last thing I just remembered Timmer...

I actually did initially die due to a host error. Do you really think Dom forgets I survived if he knew it was part of a baddie plot? Go back and read that bit of the game.