Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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You're just annoyed cos I voted for you.Elohcin wrote:So...I think I will vote Sorsha too. I would rather vote Floyd but a vote on him would mean nothing at this point.
I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.motel room wrote:I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.
I'm most uncomfortable with this: Roxy's "style" drives me batty because I always think she's bad for it, and I've had the privilege of knowing her for quite a while. I would think a house regular would not find this perspective bad, but honest.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Since I can't vote for myself or MP, I'll vote for the one person I said I'd consider voting. Vote registered for Diiny.
I'm sorry if this has been cleared up, but his frustration with Roxy's style seeming to be anti-town or unhelpful to the town cause seemed over-the-top and almost fake. Unfortunately, that is about where I left off (at least that was the last series of posts from him that I got to) so that is my reason for voting him.
That last bit does him no credit for obvious reasons.Devin the Omniscient wrote:Me tooChoutas wrote:My first vote for the day goes to Devin. His style is similar to mine and I hate myself so make the math.
As long as it's not for being a "lurker." I'm not even being that this game. For RYMers: I am a Staff Accountant who experiences extreme business for at least 2 weeks out of the month, every single month. It begins on the 1st of each month and runs for 2 weeks after that (pending any unexpected delays). I'm stating this, btw, because I saw some discussion of lynching lurkers or low posters. Just wanted to explain my position those unfamiliar with me.
I will go ahead and put a placeholder on Diiny again. Though, I did like the points LC was making about MacDougall. Will go back and read that more carefully if I get a chance to.
The underlined there is a tad hypocritical, given that Devin liked Long Con's points about MacDougall.Devin the Omniscient wrote:I agree that his defense of LC is off-putting now that we know LC was bad. I just feel Epi is way too good a player to stick his neck out to save a teammate who is getting so much heat. If anything I could see baddie Epi attacking LC to make himself look good. The WIFOM is strong here. I'll have to think about this more before voting.motel room wrote:ok.
These two trying to save Long Con were the dodgiest to me, from my interactions --Gonna drop a vote on Epi before the weekend hits and birthdays and brother-in-town and beers distract me.Epignosis wrote:I don't like it, so I'd say yes, it's a bad lynch. You catch a Long Con through petty things he does that he himself isn't aware that he's doing, not through calling him out Day 1 by pretending to set up bea to garner reactions.motel room wrote:Commentary. "cliquish" isnt game related. Is it a bad lynch?Epignosis wrote:Again, five votes from people who don't know Long Con and aren't from around here.
This is starting to look cliquish.
Another stupid lynch, I say.
Still have some catching up to do, so I may stumble upon this somewhere. But I wanted to ask how the players who voted bcornett feel about him now. He received a lot of votes, including LC's vote. Does anyone think they could have been teammates going after each other to make the survivor look better?
Black Rock wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571
I decided to link to this post instead of quoting it since it's so damn long. I think a lot of thought has gone into this post. Two people that stand out to me is Epignosis and Russ.
I'm not used to Epi have a positive look at LC. He often thinks LC is bad and leaves him alone as neutral. With all the crap that was going on with LC I'm surprised he didn't jump on the lynch train himself. He has gone after him for less.
Russ didn't seem to want to make up his mind. Now I would have to go back and read Russ to make up my mind on him as well but if I recall his was a last minute vote changer as well.
After reading this particular post I have no suspicion of Sorsha. Sorsha and LC have been playing together for eons and they respect each other. LC has been really bad at reading her, she is a hard player to read. I believe that to be an honest assessment.Just a copy and paste I didn't keep the fancy colouring.Sorsha
votes LC... for CEO spot (good leadership)
D1 implies she read something into LC's bait tactic, but later questions his choice for bea; finds his replies unrealistic
doesn't find LC to have backpedalled
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> agreed with b24 on BWT's case, voted BWT
This is not a new tactic LC has used and he often does try it as a civvie, not surprised she believed him. Hell I would have.
Anyways, I'm not voting for Sorsha today. I'd be surprised if she was bad.
That's because LC usually is bad.Black Rock wrote:I'm not used to Epi have a positive look at LC. He often thinks LC is bad and leaves him alone as neutral.
My assessment wasn't clear. I waited for a long time after that post to see what you'd say. You kept me waiting Epi, it's not nice to keep a lady waiting.Epignosis wrote:This post stood out to me. Nowhere does it say what Black Rock thinks about the alignment of me or Russ- it's just observational, but it does argue in Sorsha's favor. I read this post expecting to see if Black Rock thinks I'm good, bad, or ugly, but no assessment is made. That sort of thing looks bad to me.
Black Rock wrote:http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 40#p184571
I decided to link to this post instead of quoting it since it's so damn long. I think a lot of thought has gone into this post. Two people that stand out to me is Epignosis and Russ.
I'm not used to Epi have a positive look at LC. He often thinks LC is bad and leaves him alone as neutral. With all the crap that was going on with LC I'm surprised he didn't jump on the lynch train himself. He has gone after him for less.
Russ didn't seem to want to make up his mind. Now I would have to go back and read Russ to make up my mind on him as well but if I recall his was a last minute vote changer as well.
After reading this particular post I have no suspicion of Sorsha. Sorsha and LC have been playing together for eons and they respect each other. LC has been really bad at reading her, she is a hard player to read. I believe that to be an honest assessment.Just a copy and paste I didn't keep the fancy colouring.Sorsha
votes LC... for CEO spot (good leadership)
D1 implies she read something into LC's bait tactic, but later questions his choice for bea; finds his replies unrealistic
doesn't find LC to have backpedalled
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> agreed with b24 on BWT's case, voted BWT
This is not a new tactic LC has used and he often does try it as a civvie, not surprised she believed him. Hell I would have.
Anyways, I'm not voting for Sorsha today. I'd be surprised if she was bad.That's because LC usually is bad.Black Rock wrote:I'm not used to Epi have a positive look at LC. He often thinks LC is bad and leaves him alone as neutral.
Well likeMacDougall wrote:I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.motel room wrote:I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.
Unvote MattF, vote motel room.
See.
Getting accused by anyone can be a death knell. The right accusation, the right time, nobody is ever safe in Mafia.sig wrote:Getting accused by Epignosis can certainly be a death knell.
I will most likely be voting for Devin today but I'm starting to think a Choutus lynch might be good. This is mainly based around his comments about the SK. I also would like to hear some more from Diiny he has gone off the radar completely.
Do you think I'm bad?sig wrote:Getting accused by Epignosis can certainly be a death knell.
I will most likely be voting for Devin today but I'm starting to think a Choutus lynch might be good. This is mainly based around his comments about the SK. I also would like to hear some more from Diiny he has gone off the radar completely.
Sorsha isnt safely lynched anymore btw.MacDougall wrote:I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.motel room wrote:I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.
Unvote MattF, vote motel room.
See.
Nah. I am annoyed that you haven't made me laugh though.TheFloyd73 wrote:You're just annoyed cos I voted for you.Elohcin wrote:So...I think I will vote Sorsha too. I would rather vote Floyd but a vote on him would mean nothing at this point.
Agreed.Bullzeye wrote:Getting accused by anyone can be a death knell. The right accusation, the right time, nobody is ever safe in Mafia.sig wrote:Getting accused by Epignosis can certainly be a death knell.
I will most likely be voting for Devin today but I'm starting to think a Choutus lynch might be good. This is mainly based around his comments about the SK. I also would like to hear some more from Diiny he has gone off the radar completely.
Give me time...Elohcin wrote:Nah. I am annoyed that you haven't made me laugh though.TheFloyd73 wrote:You're just annoyed cos I voted for you.Elohcin wrote:So...I think I will vote Sorsha too. I would rather vote Floyd but a vote on him would mean nothing at this point.
No I'm not. I'm trying to upset you to see if you will break that super cautious posting style you've got there. Please don't state opinions as fact.motel room wrote:Well likeMacDougall wrote:I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.motel room wrote:I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.
Unvote MattF, vote motel room.
See.
Now you're just hopping to muddy your intentions even further. Do you think Sorsha is scum or not?
Epignosis wrote:Third time raising this, because I don't see anyone answering.
For those of you voting Sorsha, does this post make you think she is a Long Con teammate or does it strike you as a genuine interaction?
Sorsha wrote:This just seems really idealistic but not very realistic. I think you’d just have easily lynched a civ with that tactic. Its easy to say that bwt didn’t look suspicious after we know he was town but his behavior during the last lynch (flip flopping between sig and bea and then back again). I’m wondering why you wouldn’t have found him suspicious for following your lead on bea. I know you said you didn't think he was suspicious because he found his own reason but, if you hadn't of posted your case on bea I doubt he'd have looked at her.Long Con wrote:I chose bea because I saw the opportunity to make the case I did based on the things she had said. She's a good target for this kind of thing, because unlike Epig or Golden or Llama, she's less likely to take an accusation like that and run with it until it's a big polarized head-to-head between me and my accused. My ideal outcome would have been for someone from The Syndicate to take my points and agree with them and vote for bea, revealing themselves as someone willing to go along with a case because it looks good on the surface. Following this, a baddie lynch, led by me, as I humbly accept cheering Civvie accolades. Alternate ideal: bea actually is a baddie and scumslips in some way in response to the accusation.Sorsha wrote:RIPIYWG guys
Long Con can you explain why you chose bea and what your ideal outcome would have been yesterday?
Time will tell I guess.More realistic: it develops some conversation where I get some pings from people and keep them in mind as the game progresses. However, despite opinions that it was a convincing argument, it ended up being too clumsy, and most of the conversation was about me instead, which was less helpful. It could still bear fruit, as the lynches go on - when we end up lynching a baddie, I'll be checking up on their response, if any, to the situation. Maybe someone who accused me of being bad will end up being bad, which will necessitate a second look at bea.
Did you?MacDougall wrote:No I'm not. I'm trying to upset you to see if you will break that super cautious posting style you've got there. Please don't state opinions as fact.motel room wrote:Well likeMacDougall wrote:I switched to MattF to get a reaction out of him mate. Sorsha looks safely lynched so I'm pretty much free to throw my vote around to scare scum.motel room wrote:I don't get why you've switched from Sorsha, at one point saying you wont switch for anything less than someone saying "i am scum", to Matt F because of a few "pings". This is a significant bandwagon.MacDougall wrote:I'm actually unvoting sorsha and changing my vote to MattF. Something about him is not what it seems my friends. And I aim to get to the bottom of it.
Unvote MattF, vote motel room.
See.
Now you're just hopping to muddy your intentions even further. Do you think Sorsha is scum or not?
Yes gun to head I believe sorsha is scum. I had a bad feeling that there are scum on the wagon but now that a solid Devin wagon is being put together at the last minute in an attempt to get sorsha unlynched, the predictable has occurred when a scum is about be hung so I'm comfy again.
Changing my vote back to sorsha.
MovingPictures07 wrote:Just a little over 20 minutes until end of Day 4.
You must cast your votes before then if you haven't already, unless you want to be punished.
I don't recall being wrong about LC at all in this game. I wasn't right about him, but I wasn't wrong about him either...espers wrote:voting sorsha
don't like some of the later votes on the devin wagon and straw's sorsha case was pretty compelling /piggybacking
no slight against the ppl defending sorsha, but you were wrong about lc, why should we believe you now?
Can you vote for Devin just so there's some tension?Russtifinko wrote:Oh geez, the lynch time moved up. Thought I had until midnight. I've been on Sorsha since Day 2, seems silly not to vote her when she might actually be lynched.
Voting now so I don't miss, posting after. (It might be mega.) Sorsha.
Linki: espers agrees with me? Of all people?
do you have any theory about what the reason was?motel room wrote:this has been nagging me a bit. espers, why did you vote me here for CEO or whatever it was way back at the start?espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.
DoneSorsha wrote:I'm just going to ask everyone: If you don't think I'm bad please do not throw your vote away where it's not going to matter.
I'd prefer you to look over the points made against Devin and vote for either he or I, whichever you find worse. I know my play this game has sucked big time, especially early on with my defense of LC but I am a civvie.
espers wrote:do you have any theory about what the reason was?motel room wrote:this has been nagging me a bit. espers, why did you vote me here for CEO or whatever it was way back at the start?espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.
linki @bullzeye: i was thinking of br and epi.
Lol you won't really have time to do that.Diiny wrote:lol, I'm really proud that I managed to somehow convince the thread I was silenced. One of my finer moments, no doubt.
Been super busy with uni plus work experience overlapping so I haven't really been posting. I've been skimming the thread on my phone when possible, but I'm not super caught up. Gonna have to realistically choose between sorsha and devin unless I hate both cases or something
I uninured agree. I unwarmed don't me in charge buddy! be very surprised.Black Rock wrote:Something about Sorshas posts just read genuine to me. I'll be surprised if she flips bad.
I agree with golden. He is the best townie in the world after all.Golden wrote:I uninured agree. I unwarmed don't me in charge buddy! be very surprised.Black Rock wrote:Something about Sorshas posts just read genuine to me. I'll be surprised if she flips bad.
Golden wrote:I uninured agree. I unwarmed don't me in charge buddy! be very surprised.Black Rock wrote:Something about Sorshas posts just read genuine to me. I'll be surprised if she flips bad.
I do, however, have the smallest Baneslayer. Can't win them all.MacDougall wrote:I agree with golden. He is the best townie in the world after all.Golden wrote:I uninured agree. I unwarmed don't me in charge buddy! be very surprised.Black Rock wrote:Something about Sorshas posts just read genuine to me. I'll be surprised if she flips bad.
I think if you are town it was random-ish and if you're scum then it was to look random-ish. I don't know why you would pick me in particular and then with the Long Con flip i've had an issue with it.espers wrote:do you have any theory about what the reason was?motel room wrote:this has been nagging me a bit. espers, why did you vote me here for CEO or whatever it was way back at the start?espers wrote:hello. voted aokiji/motel room and Long Con.
linki @bullzeye: i was thinking of br and epi.
Gambler's fallacy.espers wrote:voting sorsha
don't like some of the later votes on the devin wagon and straw's sorsha case was pretty compelling /piggybacking
no slight against the ppl defending sorsha, but you were wrong about lc, why should we believe you now?
Meh? I don't see this one exchange as super indicative either way, to be honest.Epignosis wrote:FOURTH time.
Epignosis wrote:Third time raising this, because I don't see anyone answering.
For those of you voting Sorsha, does this post make you think she is a Long Con teammate or does it strike you as a genuine interaction?
Sorsha wrote:This just seems really idealistic but not very realistic. I think you’d just have easily lynched a civ with that tactic. Its easy to say that bwt didn’t look suspicious after we know he was town but his behavior during the last lynch (flip flopping between sig and bea and then back again). I’m wondering why you wouldn’t have found him suspicious for following your lead on bea. I know you said you didn't think he was suspicious because he found his own reason but, if you hadn't of posted your case on bea I doubt he'd have looked at her.Long Con wrote:I chose bea because I saw the opportunity to make the case I did based on the things she had said. She's a good target for this kind of thing, because unlike Epig or Golden or Llama, she's less likely to take an accusation like that and run with it until it's a big polarized head-to-head between me and my accused. My ideal outcome would have been for someone from The Syndicate to take my points and agree with them and vote for bea, revealing themselves as someone willing to go along with a case because it looks good on the surface. Following this, a baddie lynch, led by me, as I humbly accept cheering Civvie accolades. Alternate ideal: bea actually is a baddie and scumslips in some way in response to the accusation.Sorsha wrote:RIPIYWG guys
Long Con can you explain why you chose bea and what your ideal outcome would have been yesterday?
Time will tell I guess.More realistic: it develops some conversation where I get some pings from people and keep them in mind as the game progresses. However, despite opinions that it was a convincing argument, it ended up being too clumsy, and most of the conversation was about me instead, which was less helpful. It could still bear fruit, as the lynches go on - when we end up lynching a baddie, I'll be checking up on their response, if any, to the situation. Maybe someone who accused me of being bad will end up being bad, which will necessitate a second look at bea.
Just kidding, Golden.
off the gridDiiny wrote:yeah, this isn't informed but I don't want to get penalised. Golden because he's obviously scum guys
MacDougall wrote:Should I just vote somewhere else so we have a lynch coin flip? I feel like that'd be fun.
