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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:If we lynch gleam and he flips bad, I'd love to go after TH next.
On what grounds? :huh:
You were the one responsible for moving the lynch away from gleam, but not for moving it to Fuzz.
He also went for LC over sig. I could very easily see TH being bad to be honest.

I'm hoping people will start to come around to seeing things as clearly as I do. I felt it was really clear that LC was good and now I've been vindicated on that. I do not think we can progress with a good understanding of what is happening here without lynching sig. If sig is actually bad we can see a few people who are beginning to really shape up as potential teammates.

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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Also, although Quin made me feel a lot better, his choice of vote does not. His vote could potentially be a sig save.
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Okay I'm caught up. That end of day was messy. Like, messier than the last minutr Fuzz wagon messy. Let's clean it up moving forward please. You know, reasoned arguments and things, not just shouting about votes at each other.
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Golden wrote:Also, although Quin made me feel a lot better, his choice of vote does not. His vote could potentially be a sig save.
Well, I figured having you read me as town would be almost too easy.
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Quin wrote:
Golden wrote:Also, although Quin made me feel a lot better, his choice of vote does not. His vote could potentially be a sig save.
Well, I figured having you read me as town would be almost too easy.
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Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Don't feel like lynching LC though. It's Sig or Nero.
You are so wrong. You are so, so, so wrong.
Why.
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Hey gleam why did you avoid participating in that lynch?
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Golden wrote:Also, although Quin made me feel a lot better, his choice of vote does not. His vote could potentially be a sig save.
I mean he literally said his vote was a sig save, there's no "if". Other players are out here trying to do what they think is right, same as you. I think sig is good, clearly others agree with me, but I felt like I was fighting an uphill battle trying to save him, and I was wrong about LC and now I'm exhausted. So I mean knock yourself out, maybe you're right about him. I've lost all credibility at this point so I'll just stay out of your way. But you could be just as wrong as I was and then where will we be :shrug:
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Re: [DAY 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Scotty (5), ika (6), Dragon D. Luffy (8), Golden (9), indiglo (10), Sloonei (17), Matt (24)
So Ika is a revenge vote, DDL is a No U, Golden is mega tunnely, Sloonei is another No U, and Matt is voting since he thinks MM is bad and that means since we agreed we must be teammates. lolz

So four of the people voting for me I suspected and had doubts about. So basically my wagon is filled with NO U people.


So your voting for Golden in a vote which will do nothing at all this phase but instead voting for the person your top suspect pushed? explain that to me.

Matt your insane why should I even consider helping you switch to MM which won't happen since there is no case on him when you have a vote on me. IN FACT YOU WANT MY HELP TO DO SO??? SO you want a player you think is scum to convince players to vote for someone you think is scum yet we are both scum?
Just got home from work and began doing my catch up and saw sig label my vote for him as a "no u" and did the biggest "huh?" of my life. I'm like 99% positive that is the opposite of the truth.
Anyway back to reading. We have to lynch sig tomorrow. I feel now like not lynching him today was a huge missed opportunity.
But we did lynch sig. :pout:
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Re: [DAY 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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ika wrote:
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Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.

However, in a game like this, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I also find it odd that LC is suspecting Quin but also voting with Quin on Nerolunar.

I can understand the sig suspicion based on his reaction to Fuzz lynch, but again, this just seems too obvious to me.

I'm kind of frustrated that I think we are on the wrong track and scum are flying under the radar successfully while we are going after active posters who could very well be town, and not forcing scum to answer for their inactivity.

Has anyone noticed sonjei has only 3 posts in this game and they are all crap? He was an ika voter as well.
This is the worst one.

There has been literally only one chance at a nightkill since EOD2, at which point sloonei became 'superobvious town' (except for the fact that he was taking suspicion from a number of people). Why would you be surprised to see him alive?

Why is something obvious likely to be 'too obvious'? Why isn't it likely to be just what it looks like?

I've begun to see a very strong pattern from silverwolf of opposing what I'd call 'prevailing wisdom' and trying to push for less obvious/less likely explanations. The same thing I'm seeing for sig.

Despite that... she votes for LC. A person whose vote is frankly just as scummy-looking as sigs. If it wouldn't be as obvious as sig, why would it be as obvious as LC?

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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
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looking at nks it would make sense to have that be the case.

im going to look at the others and see what i can find
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ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
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Golden wrote:
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
wow overreaction much?

tell me who you think got arrested then. are you claiming that you are a cop who knew who got arrested?
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Matt wrote:Marmot, come out and play and answer my question. How'd you know I misunderstood Golden?
Matt, remember how you were wrong reading into my 11 minutes, and wrong leading in to my use of the word 'completely'?

I think the reason you tunnel so badly on people is you read WAY too much into very small things.
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Metalmarsh89 wrote::eek:
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ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
wow overreaction much?

tell me who you think got arrested then. are you claiming that you are a cop who knew who got arrested?
Overreaction?

I've no idea who got arrested. That's my point. Do you?
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Golden wrote: I'm relatively willing to trust you on that. I don't know if she has answered to my points, though, but I'd like her to.
Sorry, I had numerous pages to catch up on but I'll ISO you and try to find it. Hold on a sec.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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ika-WTF are you doing?
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Golden wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
wow overreaction much?

tell me who you think got arrested then. are you claiming that you are a cop who knew who got arrested?
Overreaction?

I've no idea who got arrested. That's my point. Do you?
no, but doesnt ti seem to make the most sense that he would be the choice considering how the EoD of day 2 went down? and how nearly everyone persoaudo cleared him?
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ika wrote:
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ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
wow overreaction much?

tell me who you think got arrested then. are you claiming that you are a cop who knew who got arrested?
I don't understand this conclusion either. Where did you get the idea that Sloonei is Don?
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Silverwolf wrote:ika-WTF are you doing?
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Metalmarsh89 wrote:
I don't understand this conclusion either. Where did you get the idea that Sloonei is Don?
Well looking at how EoD 2 went and how most people were claling him town it would be saft to assume that the cops would be wanting to try to take a clear townie out.

do people on this site never do NKA?
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Nightkill analysis?

Not really. I'm pretty used to not being allowed to info-dump/role-claim, that I tend to overlook such things.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Metalmarsh89 wrote:What's NKA?
night kill analysis. it is one of the most powerful tools i know.

well does NKA count as info dumping? i mean its something im not use to so i tend to use it a lot
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why do you assume its sloonei? How would you know this? I don't understand... we don't know who was failed to be arrested. Are you just thinking sloonei is the likely choice?
wow overreaction much?

tell me who you think got arrested then. are you claiming that you are a cop who knew who got arrested?
Overreaction?

I've no idea who got arrested. That's my point. Do you?
no, but doesnt ti seem to make the most sense that he would be the choice considering how the EoD of day 2 went down? and how nearly everyone persoaudo cleared him?
Sloonei was taking a heap of heat out of end of day 2. Just as much as me. Whereas, for instance, you, silverwolf and SVS all looked instacleared. Why wouldn't any of you be the kill?
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Nah, it's perfectly legal, since it is thread-based and speculation. And I get why you are suggesting it, because if you're right, Sloonei would be protected from a lynch.

But tbh, I don't think he would be lynched anyway.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Golden wrote:
Sloonei was taking a heap of heat out of end of day 2. Just as much as me. Whereas, for instance, you, silverwolf and SVS all looked instacleared. Why wouldn't any of you be the kill?
show me where sloon was taking heat, your defense of him suddenly is kinda intresting. i mean sllon cna defend himself no? so why ar eyou defending him?

people still suspected me in night phase and dudring day IIRC, silver was geting some crap too. and SVS i have not even see much of but i dont recall anyone calling her town.
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ika wrote:
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Sloonei was taking a heap of heat out of end of day 2. Just as much as me. Whereas, for instance, you, silverwolf and SVS all looked instacleared. Why wouldn't any of you be the kill?
show me where sloon was taking heat, your defense of him suddenly is kinda intresting. i mean sllon cna defend himself no? so why ar eyou defending him?

people still suspected me in night phase and dudring day IIRC, silver was geting some crap too. and SVS i have not even see much of but i dont recall anyone calling her town.
Defending sloonei? What am I defending him from?
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Golden wrote:
ika wrote:
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Sloonei was taking a heap of heat out of end of day 2. Just as much as me. Whereas, for instance, you, silverwolf and SVS all looked instacleared. Why wouldn't any of you be the kill?
show me where sloon was taking heat, your defense of him suddenly is kinda intresting. i mean sllon cna defend himself no? so why ar eyou defending him?

people still suspected me in night phase and dudring day IIRC, silver was geting some crap too. and SVS i have not even see much of but i dont recall anyone calling her town.
Defending sloonei? What am I defending him from?
me speculation and trying to stop me from figuring him out. i mena if you have a better idea of who was the NK im all ears. but right now my conclusion is that
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Re: [DAY 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.

However, in a game like this, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I also find it odd that LC is suspecting Quin but also voting with Quin on Nerolunar.

I can understand the sig suspicion based on his reaction to Fuzz lynch, but again, this just seems too obvious to me.

I'm kind of frustrated that I think we are on the wrong track and scum are flying under the radar successfully while we are going after active posters who could very well be town, and not forcing scum to answer for their inactivity.

Has anyone noticed sonjei has only 3 posts in this game and they are all crap? He was an ika voter as well.
This is the worst one.

There has been literally only one chance at a nightkill since EOD2, at which point sloonei became 'superobvious town' (except for the fact that he was taking suspicion from a number of people). Why would you be surprised to see him alive?

Why is something obvious likely to be 'too obvious'? Why isn't it likely to be just what it looks like?

I've begun to see a very strong pattern from silverwolf of opposing what I'd call 'prevailing wisdom' and trying to push for less obvious/less likely explanations. The same thing I'm seeing for sig.

Despite that... she votes for LC. A person whose vote is frankly just as scummy-looking as sigs. If it wouldn't be as obvious as sig, why would it be as obvious as LC?
OK, I found this and the fact that you declared me a teammate to sig and I have to say Golden, as nice of a person as you seem to be, your play is starting to annoy me.

You seem to see everything as black and white. If RadicalFuzz is scum, then anyone defending him must be a teammate. If I think sig is town and don't want to lynch him, he must be bad and I must be a teammate. You refuse to consider that town can be wrong. You refuse to consider that RadicalFuzz could of been bussed. You are also assuming those on the ika train were bad as well when it is perfectly reasonable to assume they were wrong town. Or it is even possible ika is scum. I mean, I'm leaning that he isn't based on RadicalFuzz's vote on him and his pushing the RadicalFuzz lynch, but ika hard core busses as scum so I'm not going to rule it out until I see more of his D3 play and see him contributing to the game more. But you've alread assumed he's town and you are making some sort of crazy assumption that I'm trying to get him to townread me based on me defending him or pushing the lynch on Fuzz-I got this from a previous post of yours. What you don't seem to understand is that ika can almost always accurately read me because he has played many games with me and knows how I behave because we have discussed our game meta before in past conversations. Is it possible for us to fool one another? Yes. Is it likely? Not really.

Now, As far as me going against the prevailing wisdom. Yes, I will do this. If I think town is on the wrong track, I will try to steer them onto the correct one. I consider it far more scum than town to just go along with popular opinion, get the easy mislynch, and avoid drawing suspicion to yourself. I have no idea why scum would always try to stand out like a sore thumb and argue against popular lynches if they aren't falling on scum. I thought town was wrong on quin, Nero, and sig. I think scum is lying low and getting away from it. So I voiced my opinion. I want my opinion on this known.

I'll give you another example. We had a really good player on MS who would often lead mislynches on town as town. You wanna know why? Because he would tunnel and get into confbias and once he declarded someone scum, he would rarely if ever let it go. It was detrimental to town. Town should always be willing to reconsider their reads based on new info. You can into D2 with absolute certainty that a certain few people were scum and a certain few people were town. Without being will to reconsider and look at ALL possibilities, you are headed for a disaster. I can't tell you how many times I've seen scum get away or town die for exactly your line of thinking. I mean, it was at the point I was scumreading you for it because of the immediate lining up lynches mentality based on a single flip. If you play this game like it's black and white, you will very likely lose. I've seen it happen far too often.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
My feelings have nothing to do with sloonei, per se.

Much more to do with wondering if I've been snowed by the pair of you. Defending each other if you are both bad would be the smartest thing you could do, being new to the site. But now both of you have speculated that sloonei should, basically, be the obvious consensus nightkill target on day one. This is something that raises my eyebrows a lot. Not that you do 'NKA', but that you both, independently, seem to have come to such a firm and consensus target about who the target would have been.

linki - ika, I don't have any conclusion. I don't see how we could come to a conclusion.
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Re: [DAY 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.

However, in a game like this, that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

I also find it odd that LC is suspecting Quin but also voting with Quin on Nerolunar.

I can understand the sig suspicion based on his reaction to Fuzz lynch, but again, this just seems too obvious to me.

I'm kind of frustrated that I think we are on the wrong track and scum are flying under the radar successfully while we are going after active posters who could very well be town, and not forcing scum to answer for their inactivity.

Has anyone noticed sonjei has only 3 posts in this game and they are all crap? He was an ika voter as well.
This is the worst one.

There has been literally only one chance at a nightkill since EOD2, at which point sloonei became 'superobvious town' (except for the fact that he was taking suspicion from a number of people). Why would you be surprised to see him alive?

Why is something obvious likely to be 'too obvious'? Why isn't it likely to be just what it looks like?

I've begun to see a very strong pattern from silverwolf of opposing what I'd call 'prevailing wisdom' and trying to push for less obvious/less likely explanations. The same thing I'm seeing for sig.

Despite that... she votes for LC. A person whose vote is frankly just as scummy-looking as sigs. If it wouldn't be as obvious as sig, why would it be as obvious as LC?
OK, I found this and the fact that you declared me a teammate to sig and I have to say Golden, as nice of a person as you seem to be, your play is starting to annoy me.

You seem to see everything as black and white. If RadicalFuzz is scum, then anyone defending him must be a teammate. If I think sig is town and don't want to lynch him, he must be bad and I must be a teammate. You refuse to consider that town can be wrong. You refuse to consider that RadicalFuzz could of been bussed. You are also assuming those on the ika train were bad as well when it is perfectly reasonable to assume they were wrong town. Or it is even possible ika is scum. I mean, I'm leaning that he isn't based on RadicalFuzz's vote on him and his pushing the RadicalFuzz lynch, but ika hard core busses as scum so I'm not going to rule it out until I see more of his D3 play and see him contributing to the game more. But you've alread assumed he's town and you are making some sort of crazy assumption that I'm trying to get him to townread me based on me defending him or pushing the lynch on Fuzz-I got this from a previous post of yours. What you don't seem to understand is that ika can almost always accurately read me because he has played many games with me and knows how I behave because we have discussed our game meta before in past conversations. Is it possible for us to fool one another? Yes. Is it likely? Not really.

Now, As far as me going against the prevailing wisdom. Yes, I will do this. If I think town is on the wrong track, I will try to steer them onto the correct one. I consider it far more scum than town to just go along with popular opinion, get the easy mislynch, and avoid drawing suspicion to yourself. I have no idea why scum would always try to stand out like a sore thumb and argue against popular lynches if they aren't falling on scum. I thought town was wrong on quin, Nero, and sig. I think scum is lying low and getting away from it. So I voiced my opinion. I want my opinion on this known.

I'll give you another example. We had a really good player on MS who would often lead mislynches on town as town. You wanna know why? Because he would tunnel and get into confbias and once he declarded someone scum, he would rarely if ever let it go. It was detrimental to town. Town should always be willing to reconsider their reads based on new info. You can into D2 with absolute certainty that a certain few people were scum and a certain few people were town. Without being will to reconsider and look at ALL possibilities, you are headed for a disaster. I can't tell you how many times I've seen scum get away or town die for exactly your line of thinking. I mean, it was at the point I was scumreading you for it because of the immediate lining up lynches mentality based on a single flip. If you play this game like it's black and white, you will very likely lose. I've seen it happen far too often.
Silverwolf - I was calling you bad, after calling you confirmed town post EoD2, and your response is that I refuse to consider fuzz could have been bussed or refuse to think about my reads constructively and change my mind?

That doesn't scan.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why did you want to say this, exactly?
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Golden wrote:
My feelings have nothing to do with sloonei, per se.

Much more to do with wondering if I've been snowed by the pair of you. Defending each other if you are both bad would be the smartest thing you could do, being new to the site. But now both of you have speculated that sloonei should, basically, be the obvious consensus nightkill target on day one. This is something that raises my eyebrows a lot. Not that you do 'NKA', but that you both, independently, seem to have come to such a firm and consensus target about who the target would have been.

linki - ika, I don't have any conclusion. I don't see how we could come to a conclusion.
then what i am doing is vaild and that you should maybe thing about it. the idea i see here like silver said, is that dons want to act very town like to try to eat a nk. sloon was very town like by all. even ifnot everoyn called him town there were more ppl calling him town then scum.

so i dont get why you are trying to discreit me with this spuclation.

furhtermore, your rapid 180 on me now is very very scummy, jsut a few post ago you were tusting me and now you suddnly turn on me. it shows that you are doign the same you are tellign us
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Turnip Head wrote:I like this Silverwolf gal :keys:
shes mine, :D
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Re: [DAY 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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OK, I found this and the fact that you declared me a teammate to sig and I have to say Golden, as nice of a person as you seem to be, your play is starting to annoy me.

You seem to see everything as black and white. If RadicalFuzz is scum, then anyone defending him must be a teammate. If I think sig is town and don't want to lynch him, he must be bad and I must be a teammate. You refuse to consider that town can be wrong. You refuse to consider that RadicalFuzz could of been bussed. You are also assuming those on the ika train were bad as well when it is perfectly reasonable to assume they were wrong town. Or it is even possible ika is scum. I mean, I'm leaning that he isn't based on RadicalFuzz's vote on him and his pushing the RadicalFuzz lynch, but ika hard core busses as scum so I'm not going to rule it out until I see more of his D3 play and see him contributing to the game more. But you've alread assumed he's town and you are making some sort of crazy assumption that I'm trying to get him to townread me based on me defending him or pushing the lynch on Fuzz-I got this from a previous post of yours. What you don't seem to understand is that ika can almost always accurately read me because he has played many games with me and knows how I behave because we have discussed our game meta before in past conversations. Is it possible for us to fool one another? Yes. Is it likely? Not really.

Now, As far as me going against the prevailing wisdom. Yes, I will do this. If I think town is on the wrong track, I will try to steer them onto the correct one. I consider it far more scum than town to just go along with popular opinion, get the easy mislynch, and avoid drawing suspicion to yourself. I have no idea why scum would always try to stand out like a sore thumb and argue against popular lynches if they aren't falling on scum. I thought town was wrong on quin, Nero, and sig. I think scum is lying low and getting away from it. So I voiced my opinion. I want my opinion on this known.

I'll give you another example. We had a really good player on MS who would often lead mislynches on town as town. You wanna know why? Because he would tunnel and get into confbias and once he declarded someone scum, he would rarely if ever let it go. It was detrimental to town. Town should always be willing to reconsider their reads based on new info. You can into D2 with absolute certainty that a certain few people were scum and a certain few people were town. Without being will to reconsider and look at ALL possibilities, you are headed for a disaster. I can't tell you how many times I've seen scum get away or town die for exactly your line of thinking. I mean, it was at the point I was scumreading you for it because of the immediate lining up lynches mentality based on a single flip. If you play this game like it's black and white, you will very likely lose. I've seen it happen far too often.
This is 1000% silver town, if she is scum i am amazed she is able to pull this. i have never once seen her make this much of wall posting ever.

she is more town then revealed IC

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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Sloonei wrote:
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
Why did you want to say this, exactly?
cus i need to say it somewhere and i need someone to tell me if im crazy to think such or not about why things happened. when you play with me i will do things that are sometimes not the most ideal but i need to voice them
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
My feelings have nothing to do with sloonei, per se.

Much more to do with wondering if I've been snowed by the pair of you. Defending each other if you are both bad would be the smartest thing you could do, being new to the site. But now both of you have speculated that sloonei should, basically, be the obvious consensus nightkill target on day one. This is something that raises my eyebrows a lot. Not that you do 'NKA', but that you both, independently, seem to have come to such a firm and consensus target about who the target would have been.

linki - ika, I don't have any conclusion. I don't see how we could come to a conclusion.
Please don't ever partially quote my posts and take them out of context again. If you quote the whole thing, you would see what I meant by that. I have seen super obvioustown scum continue to survive when they are obvious nightkill targets in the past. I also said that in a game like this, it isn't safe to make that assumption and pretty much shut up about it after that.

If you want to assume we are both scum coming in here and defending each other to the point I'm getting emotional and threatening to replace out, you don't know me very well. I NEVER emotionally manipulate as scum. Emotions are not really an alignment tell for me but I already mentioned early in the game I don't do that. I had that done to me on a game offsite to the point where it damaged a friendship of mine. I absolutely do not believe in that and there are some thing I will NEVER do to win. Emotionally manipulate to that extent is definitely one of them. I also would never use real life situations to my advantage either. This is just a moral/ethical issue with me and not the way I would ever play.

Oh and for future reference, I'm not an idiot as scum. I don't run around putting all kinds of associative tells with my buddies in a game thread. There's only one time I've ever hardcore defended a teammate and that's because I needed her alive because we were the only two in the game. That's not the case here nor would I ever play so obvious.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Btw silverwolf, if I think the town is on the wrong track, I'll try and steer them on to the right one too.

It's what I've spent everything since day 2 doing.

It's really hard work sometimes, because no matter how right you are people won't necessarily listen.

I was right about LC, and I am right about sig.

Beyond that, things are up for grabs. But we can't risk more vote manipulation tomorrow. Sig has to go. I'm not sure I'll be around for it, so I have to get what I can in to the thread while I can.

PS - I like silverwolf too. Honestly silverwolf and ika we need you guys around here.
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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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Silverwolf wrote:
Golden wrote:
Silverwolf wrote:There's a paranoid part of me that wonders why Sloonei is still in the game, being super obvious town.
ika wrote:ok so i wanted to sayt his for the longest time but i couldnt ue to psot restrciosn but......

sloon is porbally a don based on the failed arrest.
My feelings have nothing to do with sloonei, per se.

Much more to do with wondering if I've been snowed by the pair of you. Defending each other if you are both bad would be the smartest thing you could do, being new to the site. But now both of you have speculated that sloonei should, basically, be the obvious consensus nightkill target on day one. This is something that raises my eyebrows a lot. Not that you do 'NKA', but that you both, independently, seem to have come to such a firm and consensus target about who the target would have been.

linki - ika, I don't have any conclusion. I don't see how we could come to a conclusion.
Please don't ever partially quote my posts and take them out of context again. If you quote the whole thing, you would see what I meant by that. I have seen super obvioustown scum continue to survive when they are obvious nightkill targets in the past. I also said that in a game like this, it isn't safe to make that assumption and pretty much shut up about it after that.

If you want to assume we are both scum coming in here and defending each other to the point I'm getting emotional and threatening to replace out, you don't know me very well. I NEVER emotionally manipulate as scum. Emotions are not really an alignment tell for me but I already mentioned early in the game I don't do that. I had that done to me on a game offsite to the point where it damaged a friendship of mine. I absolutely do not believe in that and there are some thing I will NEVER do to win. Emotionally manipulate to that extent is definitely one of them. I also would never use real life situations to my advantage either. This is just a moral/ethical issue with me and not the way I would ever play.

Oh and for future reference, I'm not an idiot as scum. I don't run around putting all kinds of associative tells with my buddies in a game thread. There's only one time I've ever hardcore defended a teammate and that's because I needed her alive because we were the only two in the game. That's not the case here nor would I ever play so obvious.
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Golden wrote:
I was right about LC, and I am right about sig.
ok if your that confident are you willing to take a bet?

if your right you can have my vote on day 5, if you are wrong i get your vote on day 5. deal?
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FWIW - Zebra's play style and level of participation and type of posts in this game are exactly the same as in Rocky & Bullwinkle, and she was just lynched as scum over there (finally). Just an observation.

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Re: [NIGHT 3] Turf Wars: Battle of the Hosts

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OK silverwolf... those are pretty good responses all up. Quoting you out of context is something I will continue to do if I feel like it, but you just handled it very well. So tell me, what do you make of ika's nka? Do you think he would ever slip if he knew sloonei was the kill?

I think what bothers me most is he called my thing an overreaction and said I was defending sloonei, whereas I think I was asking pretty reasonable questions about a pretty bold conclusion he came to.
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ika wrote:
Golden wrote:
I was right about LC, and I am right about sig.
ok if your that confident are you willing to take a bet?

if your right you can have my vote on day 5, if you are wrong i get your vote on day 5. deal?
I'm up for that. :beer: sounds like a great idea.
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I see where ika is coming from, but I think to jump straight to the conclusion he did here is a bit of a stretch. Plus, Sloonei is probably scum, so I disagree.
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