Escape From Russia [GAME OVER]

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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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oh we still going on Mich. ?
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:21 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote
is this referencing something that she said? I believe there's context that I'm missing.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:24 am oh we still going on Mich. ?
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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meh idk what to say about that, doesn't seem like a big deal for me

I don't really remember whether she votes often or not
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am I’ve ran the read on you briefly in my wall

Also explained it before you actually started solving

The Poison one it’s just what it is, I’m not complicating. If you think it’s TMI then idk what to tell you, I’ll let myself get fooled if this is Poison’s scum game but she’s playing an awesome game if she’s a wolf and I think you’re just being tunneled because she didn’t cast a simple vote on you and instead “shaded you”.

From my perspective, talking about a scum read and not voting them isn’t “shading” which I believe is what your read on Poison is, I completely disagree.
explain again, hope you didn't forget about it.

Poison was quicker to cast the vote iirc, playing at MU and always having the voting button you become addicted to use it and i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote. Just doesn't sit right with her to do this.
She showed she can play a pretty good scum game. Her tone after a moment of this game was like she didn't care about my AI.
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green : Of course I vote late cause I think about it and observe a bit more, I clearly said that quite a while ago wdym? lmao.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am I’ve ran the read on you briefly in my wall

Also explained it before you actually started solving

The Poison one it’s just what it is, I’m not complicating. If you think it’s TMI then idk what to tell you, I’ll let myself get fooled if this is Poison’s scum game but she’s playing an awesome game if she’s a wolf and I think you’re just being tunneled because she didn’t cast a simple vote on you and instead “shaded you”.

From my perspective, talking about a scum read and not voting them isn’t “shading” which I believe is what your read on Poison is, I completely disagree.
explain again, hope you didn't forget about it.

Poison was quicker to cast the vote iirc, playing at MU and always having the voting button you become addicted to use it and i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote. Just doesn't sit right with her to do this.
She showed she can play a pretty good scum game. Her tone after a moment of this game was like she didn't care about my AI.
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yellow : Michelle, just because I have fruits on my table doesn't mean I'll be addicted to it [I don't like fruits btw] , besides, show me one MU game of mine which supports your statement.

green : Of course I vote late cause I think about it and observe a bit more, I clearly said that quite a while ago wdym? lmao.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:31 am meh idk what to say about that, doesn't seem like a big deal for me

I don't really remember whether she votes often or not
she needs something to talk about, I give her my whole ISO so far in the game, that's what she chooses. :workit:
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:31 am meh idk what to say about that, doesn't seem like a big deal for me

I don't really remember whether she votes often or not
what about the mindset?
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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

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Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:41 am
Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:33 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:58 am
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Ash
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Suna: sleeping monster! (comparatively less active and don't really remember much from them so will put them in NULL)

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wilgy
long con

annoying Kuroko no basuke fan(no idea until they flip)
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Where is your vote on your first scum read?

Smh Penguin..
I think you know me well enough mich and the fact I don't really vote before EoD1 or at least if I'm not too sure about my read.
Doesn't matter how well I know you, I don't judge you by meta.

A vote creates pressure and a reason to react stronger from a townie to defend himself, and for mafia creates a movement itt to most probably save the wagoned wolf.
Not voting until you are sure is antitown to say at least. The vote is town's strongest weapon.

How many times i was explaining you things during a game? I think forgot :hug:
Oh really mich, you are not reading me by meta, yet I clearly remember you saying "Poison could be scum cause she is a easy bus" while interacting with Hally about the Dunya-Poiosn thingy before. I am pretty sure that counts as meta? Or do you not want to meta read me for something in particular.

Besides, voting is the strongest weapon of course and never did I miss voting for once, nor do I plan to, it's upto me when I vote for whom. About this being anti town, I'll rule that out cause from my perspective, having a lot of vote changes creates confusion for others who is trying to make a read out of the voter upon flipped or even when not flipped and myself as well.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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I mean I thought it was okay

It's a bit too defensive for my liking but it's fair game because she wasn't locked in on you being scum, more like "there's no reason to clear her"

It would've been poor if she was repping a scum read on you because she never really flipped this around on you and letting "blatant misinterpretation" to fuel her push.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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[mention]tedxtr[/mention] you want me to believe that this is town!mich ? really?

-refuses to talk.
-has no logical PoV, writes fake narration.
-when asked to prove her statement , literally dodges everytime.
-gives fake info and ceases to comment on it any further.
-all of her posts about me are some fairy tale assumptions that literally is just an assumption.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 am @tedxtr you want me to believe that this is town!mich ? really?

-refuses to talk.
-has no logical PoV, writes fake narration.
-when asked to prove her statement , literally dodges everytime.
-gives fake info and ceases to comment on it any further.
-all of her posts about me are some fairy tale assumptions that literally is just an assumption.
it's weird that you're appealing your case to me to be honest

I'm kind of missing key info on how your read on her progressed, I assumed you weren't that sure of her being scum and it certainly doesn't show when she pushed you, so the fact that you're repping a scum read on her now based on that is

hmmmmmm
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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:41 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:41 am
Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:33 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:58 am
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Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:17 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:14 am so basically, I'm here -

Hinata: sunshines and tangerines! (town)

Vulgard
Nanook
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Oikawa: Flattykawa (
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Ash
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Suna: sleeping monster! (comparatively less active and don't really remember much from them so will put them in NULL)

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wilgy
long con

annoying Kuroko no basuke fan(no idea until they flip)
Ted

Haikyuu haters(Scummish)
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TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
Where is your vote on your first scum read?

Smh Penguin..
I think you know me well enough mich and the fact I don't really vote before EoD1 or at least if I'm not too sure about my read.
Doesn't matter how well I know you, I don't judge you by meta.

A vote creates pressure and a reason to react stronger from a townie to defend himself, and for mafia creates a movement itt to most probably save the wagoned wolf.
Not voting until you are sure is antitown to say at least. The vote is town's strongest weapon.

How many times i was explaining you things during a game? I think forgot :hug:
Oh really mich, you are not reading me by meta, yet I clearly remember you saying "Poison could be scum cause she is a easy bus" while interacting with Hally about the Dunya-Poiosn thingy before. I am pretty sure that counts as meta? Or do you not want to meta read me for something in particular.

Besides, voting is the strongest weapon of course and never did I miss voting for once, nor do I plan to, it's upto me when I vote for whom. About this being anti town, I'll rule that out cause from my perspective, having a lot of vote changes creates confusion for others who is trying to make a read out of the voter upon flipped or even when not flipped and myself as well.
yellow shows she are preoccupied about her own image @tedxtr what do you see here?
it's a good point, I won't disagree
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Re: Escape From Russia [Day 1]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:41 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:41 am
Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:33 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:58 am
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Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:17 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:14 am so basically, I'm here -

Hinata: sunshines and tangerines! (town)

Vulgard
Nanook
Hally
tutuu

Oikawa: Flattykawa (
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tried hard but still cannot make it to nationals
) [townyvibes]
Ash
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Dunya

Suna: sleeping monster! (comparatively less active and don't really remember much from them so will put them in NULL)

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wilgy
long con

annoying Kuroko no basuke fan(no idea until they flip)
Ted

Haikyuu haters(Scummish)
112
TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
Where is your vote on your first scum read?

Smh Penguin..
I think you know me well enough mich and the fact I don't really vote before EoD1 or at least if I'm not too sure about my read.
Doesn't matter how well I know you, I don't judge you by meta.

A vote creates pressure and a reason to react stronger from a townie to defend himself, and for mafia creates a movement itt to most probably save the wagoned wolf.
Not voting until you are sure is antitown to say at least. The vote is town's strongest weapon.

How many times i was explaining you things during a game? I think forgot :hug:
Oh really mich, you are not reading me by meta, yet I clearly remember you saying "Poison could be scum cause she is a easy bus" while interacting with Hally about the Dunya-Poiosn thingy before. I am pretty sure that counts as meta? Or do you not want to meta read me for something in particular.

Besides, voting is the strongest weapon of course and never did I miss voting for once, nor do I plan to, it's upto me when I vote for whom. About this being anti town, I'll rule that out cause from my perspective, having a lot of vote changes creates confusion for others who is trying to make a read out of the voter upon flipped or even when not flipped and myself as well.
yellow shows she are preoccupied about her own image @tedxtr what do you see here?
yes i have been preoccupied about my image so I changed my game play some 10-15 games ago, because I so knew I would be voting Michelle late in the Russia game. It was all part of the plan.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:43 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 am @tedxtr you want me to believe that this is town!mich ? really?

-refuses to talk.
-has no logical PoV, writes fake narration.
-when asked to prove her statement , literally dodges everytime.
-gives fake info and ceases to comment on it any further.
-all of her posts about me are some fairy tale assumptions that literally is just an assumption.
it's weird that you're appealing your case to me to be honest

I'm kind of missing key info on how your read on her progressed, I assumed you weren't that sure of her being scum and it certainly doesn't show when she pushed you, so the fact that you're repping a scum read on her now based on that is

hmmmmmm
I was not sold on her being a scum even after the day tbh, but trust me being in this argument with her when I'm seeing she is just doing the above mentioned i cannot possibly draw a world a town!mich doin these.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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I'm appealing the case to you, because

- you know both of us.
- you town read her.

so I'm asking you to help me understand what I'm missing that you think is town.

I am clearly having a tunneling vision but help. [mention]tedxtr[/mention]
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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:42 am @tedxtr you want me to believe that this is town!mich ? really?

-refuses to talk.
-has no logical PoV, writes fake narration.
-when asked to prove her statement , literally dodges everytime.
-gives fake info and ceases to comment on it any further.
-all of her posts about me are some fairy tale assumptions that literally is just an assumption.
i think is normal to reffuse to engage in useless convos.
I never write fake narrations, i am logical, my statements i posted doesn't need proof.
My info, again, is not fake, your way of talking makes me to not talk to you. I disagree with the tone also.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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I think from her perspective, you're pushing her for a detail that is wrong (ergo, the voting thing) and when you got key'd in on an argument that's based on an assumption that is clearly wrong from her PoV, she jumped on you.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:51 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
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was talking about poison being pissed here, not you

i was talking to you when saying you're focusing on a small thing
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:49 am I think from her perspective, you're pushing her for a detail that is wrong (ergo, the voting thing) and when you got key'd in on an argument that's based on an assumption that is clearly wrong from her PoV, she jumped on you.
yes.! why would town give wrong info? how does that help anyone anyway? and it's more than the voting thing, but yeah.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:29 am No I don’t believe that at all

We don’t have to find an active scum, we just have to find a scum. Or find enough town that finding individual scum is irrelevant, which is how I’m approaching the game.
Well, we found one! Who's next? :haha:
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
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that hurts doesn't it? :noble: I take that back, that's too harsh. But you started sounding like that a bit. :stare: but still too harsh wprds, I'll take that back.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:51 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
i am calm
was talking about poison being pissed here, not you

i was talking to you when saying you're focusing on a small thing
ok. no more focus..

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I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:51 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
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was talking about poison being pissed here, not you

i was talking to you when saying you're focusing on a small thing
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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
never say this :noble:
that hurts doesn't it? :noble: I take that back, that's too harsh. But you started sounding like that a bit. :stare: but still too harsh wprds, I'll take that back.
read again mine and your posts and tell me shortly where i gave fake infos? And tell me if you really think your tone is ok.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
clearly, this wasn't her playstyle, and i have never had this kinda clash with her ever in the past, but sure. Fine. I look other way.

also, I would appreciate if there's no future mention of "SK 2.0 mention" in front of SK. :blush:
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She's saying that you are spewing fake stuff because she doesn't always move her vote around. She knows it to be true, and you're saying that she's lying about it or disregarding it and still pushing her.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
why do TR me?
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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
clearly, this wasn't her playstyle, and i have never had this kinda clash with her ever in the past, but sure. Fine. I look other way.

also, I would appreciate if there's no future mention of "SK 2.0 mention" in front of SK. :blush:
SK knows i don't approove his playstyle, so :shrug:
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:59 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
never say this :noble:
that hurts doesn't it? :noble: I take that back, that's too harsh. But you started sounding like that a bit. :stare: but still too harsh wprds, I'll take that back.
read again mine and your posts and tell me shortly where i gave fake infos? And tell me if you really think your tone is ok.
I think all my posts had where you gave fake infos? like literally, everytime I asked you to provide me some evidences? all of those...

but sure my tone is agitated, I'll agree with that.

but fine, I won't be continuing this argument.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
why do TR me?
I mean, this push on Poison is one reason why.

I thought your early play was your villager play trying to tank your meta, I believe you'd know better as a wolf and playing like that would be detrimental to the team and think you're not that kind of person. It makes more sense to tank your villa game first and then your wolf game kinda gets balanced.

I thought you were holding up fine when getting slightly pressured.

Your dunya case was alright. There are remnants of your town mentality when pushing someone, that's probably one characteristic that you can't really get rid off. You can tone it down but eventually it will come across.
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:02 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
clearly, this wasn't her playstyle, and i have never had this kinda clash with her ever in the past, but sure. Fine. I look other way.

also, I would appreciate if there's no future mention of "SK 2.0 mention" in front of SK. :blush:
SK knows i don't approove his playstyle, so :shrug:
I don't either. :charlieblackmon: His playstyle is literally nightmare.

It feels good to agree on something, after this argument. nice.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am She's saying that you are spewing fake stuff because she doesn't always move her vote around. She knows it to be true, and you're saying that she's lying about it or disregarding it and still pushing her.
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:03 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:00 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:56 am I think you're jumping to a tell type of hunting with the yellow thing. You think people that don't vote their scum read are just scum that are shading or building a push on someone without assuming responsibility.

I think the clash between you two is more of a play style thing than something actually scum indicative. You hold that tell high, Poison just doesn't agree with that premise and from her pov you're wrong and unreasonably narrow and from your PoV she committed a scum tell.

But really it's just a different view of the game.

if that makes sense
why do TR me?
I mean, this push on Poison is one reason why.

I thought your early play was your villager play trying to tank your meta, I believe you'd know better as a wolf and playing like that would be detrimental to the team and think you're not that kind of person. It makes more sense to tank your villa game first and then your wolf game kinda gets balanced.

I thought you were holding up fine when getting slightly pressured.

Your dunya case was alright. There are remnants of your town mentality when pushing someone, that's probably one characteristic that you can't really get rid off. You can tone it down but eventually it will come across.
yeah, i need to work more on that characteristic, ty for feedback
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tutuu wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:09 am Ive never seen poison chan arguing with someone dunno what happened betwith her and michelle
oh yeah i try to avoid arguments as anti-town so did my very best last game not to touch that ground, so you missed it?. :D but I argue a lot, till the person hates me. :flamed: :noble: nvm , anyways, you'll see me arguing in future as well. :meany:
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Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:02 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:59 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
never say this :noble:
that hurts doesn't it? :noble: I take that back, that's too harsh. But you started sounding like that a bit. :stare: but still too harsh wprds, I'll take that back.
read again mine and your posts and tell me shortly where i gave fake infos? And tell me if you really think your tone is ok.
I think all my posts had where you gave fake infos? like literally, everytime I asked you to provide me some evidences? all of those...

but sure my tone is agitated, I'll agree with that.

but fine, I won't be continuing this argument.
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Re: Escape From Russia [Night 1]

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PoE

Wilgy / dunya / hally / TSP

think I'm somewhere around here, will keep switching up the formula
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what makes Hally Poe?
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I'm starting to understand that SK doesn't refer here to a Serial Killer role.
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 am what makes Hally Poe?
other people are more villagery than her off what I remember

ash trending up, vulgard trending up again, don't think this is tutuu's wolf game, arete I'm just sheeping vulgard's read on
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tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:15 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 am what makes Hally Poe?
other people are more villagery than her off what I remember

ash trending up, vulgard trending up again, don't think this is tutuu's wolf game, arete I'm just sheeping vulgard's read on
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Had some bad jujus when Hally was pushing me at random times as well

she should have a better grip on me than attacking me for "not reading actives"

prettay weird push, felt like I was being "handled" in a wolfy way

i'll quote the page the whole thing was on and you can give thoughts
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Long Con wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:13 am I'm starting to understand that SK doesn't refer here to a Serial Killer role.
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Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:10 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:02 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:59 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:55 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:53 am
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:52 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:47 am Idk I feel like you're getting key'd into one little thing and are missing the bigger view

townies are gonna post scummy as well and this seems a little bit picking, from a holistic PoV her push on you was ~fine and she made sense for the most part.

otoh I have never seen her this...pissed off. I imagine the mindset being very pissed for next to no reason, like she's aggressively typing on the keyboard lol.
I get really agitated when these kinda things happen. even though Poison-Naomi thing was V/V it went on for a day and like quite a few wallies tbh. You either talk straight to me, show me some proof about your statements I'll stop, if not, you are just being SK 2.0 . I don't like that.
never say this :noble:
that hurts doesn't it? :noble: I take that back, that's too harsh. But you started sounding like that a bit. :stare: but still too harsh wprds, I'll take that back.
read again mine and your posts and tell me shortly where i gave fake infos? And tell me if you really think your tone is ok.
I think all my posts had where you gave fake infos? like literally, everytime I asked you to provide me some evidences? all of those...

but sure my tone is agitated, I'll agree with that.

but fine, I won't be continuing this argument.
i disagree, give example
wrong infos, false/contradicted statments, clearly assumptions
- you said I move a lot of votes/ i'm quick at voting.
- the meta thing
- you assuming my mindset and some other assumptions idk on what basis?

the following posts covers more or less everything I guess.
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Because I think you are a possible wolf but there is no wagon on you to even test you. Ofc there was a wagon on you but as we nearing EoD it would have brought different reactions from you. But I really don't think that is happening at all. Might as well go for tsp.
My dear penguin, you reffused to vote me earlier and now you are disperate i am a possible wolf? Why this difference in approach?

Fyi the probability for me to be awake at Eod is near zero becasue i am working tomorow and i have to wake up early, you may try your chance then because i will be alseep :hint:
I think you are not reading this game or my posts properly Michelle? There was no instance in the game when I refused to vote for you. I simply didn't cast my vote back then. I have had all the reasons to vote for you. But I did not cast the vote cause I planned to read through a few more ISOs and get a better idea with comparing all my reads.

"difference in approach" is a misleading word. Idk but I think the more you are talking you mess up a bit more?
If you want to follow this way of undermining what i am saying you are free, but i don't think your tone is going to help you to solve this game.
I know what you did, you didn't want to vote on purpose, you are upset i noticed this?
Michelle, again, it doesn't matter if you have noticed or didn't notice, cause I am not denying the fact at all, I'm clearly saying I wanted a wagon on you.

But you are wrong, now if you are doing this on purpose or messing up on your own, but you cannot really show me where I said I refused to vote for you. Can you? You are just proving yourself wrong in the broad daylight yet again, just like the meta thing. Which concerns me because it just makes me more suspicious of you. And hopefully I don't go tunneling mode. That would be bad. But you are giving me all the very reasons to.
Blah blah blah tbh
Huh?
Poison Chan wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:31 am
Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:02 am
tedxtr wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:44 am I’ve ran the read on you briefly in my wall

Also explained it before you actually started solving

The Poison one it’s just what it is, I’m not complicating. If you think it’s TMI then idk what to tell you, I’ll let myself get fooled if this is Poison’s scum game but she’s playing an awesome game if she’s a wolf and I think you’re just being tunneled because she didn’t cast a simple vote on you and instead “shaded you”.

From my perspective, talking about a scum read and not voting them isn’t “shading” which I believe is what your read on Poison is, I completely disagree.
explain again, hope you didn't forget about it.

Poison was quicker to cast the vote iirc, playing at MU and always having the voting button you become addicted to use it and i doubt she started to avoid to vote because she needed to think more at the vote. Just doesn't sit right with her to do this.
She showed she can play a pretty good scum game. Her tone after a moment of this game was like she didn't care about my AI.
cyan : You do not remember correctly. also, if I remember correctly you said you don't read me with meta. But even if you do, you should check out my games, last 10 would do[AB, MU, TS, TB, WG] if you count RVS then help yourself.

yellow : Michelle, just because I have fruits on my table doesn't mean I'll be addicted to it [I don't like fruits btw] , besides, show me one MU game of mine which supports your statement.

green : Of course I vote late cause I think about it and observe a bit more, I clearly said that quite a while ago wdym? lmao.

Michelle wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:41 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:41 am
Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:33 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:58 am
Spoiler: show
Michelle wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 4:17 am
Poison Chan wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 3:14 am so basically, I'm here -

Hinata: sunshines and tangerines! (town)

Vulgard
Nanook
Hally
tutuu

Oikawa: Flattykawa (
Spoiler: show
tried hard but still cannot make it to nationals
) [townyvibes]
Ash
Arete
Dunya

Suna: sleeping monster! (comparatively less active and don't really remember much from them so will put them in NULL)

TripleHaven
wilgy
long con

annoying Kuroko no basuke fan(no idea until they flip)
Ted

Haikyuu haters(Scummish)
112
TonyStarkPrime
Michelle
Where is your vote on your first scum read?

Smh Penguin..
I think you know me well enough mich and the fact I don't really vote before EoD1 or at least if I'm not too sure about my read.
Doesn't matter how well I know you, I don't judge you by meta.

A vote creates pressure and a reason to react stronger from a townie to defend himself, and for mafia creates a movement itt to most probably save the wagoned wolf.
Not voting until you are sure is antitown to say at least. The vote is town's strongest weapon.

How many times i was explaining you things during a game? I think forgot :hug:
Oh really mich, you are not reading me by meta, yet I clearly remember you saying "Poison could be scum cause she is a easy bus" while interacting with Hally about the Dunya-Poiosn thingy before. I am pretty sure that counts as meta? Or do you not want to meta read me for something in particular.

Besides, voting is the strongest weapon of course and never did I miss voting for once, nor do I plan to, it's upto me when I vote for whom. About this being anti town, I'll rule that out cause from my perspective, having a lot of vote changes creates confusion for others who is trying to make a read out of the voter upon flipped or even when not flipped and myself as well.
yellow shows she are preoccupied about her own image @tedxtr what do you see here?
XTMF wrote:Yo Poison, you are fucking dying.
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