Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Dana]

“Oooooooo” “look at me I pointed something out and that’s likes totally AI”
Yet you can’t even come with the conclusion that Made is obvious town as that was clearly a scum motivated CFD.

why didn't nutella get saved then? do you think all the rest of the wolves were already voting made?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

@hawkataine

[Guillotine]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

[unvote]Gavial[/vote]

Explain before I deathtunnel you for your ridiculous push on me.

[Guillotine]

How do you unvote here again?

[Dana]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

do you know this or are you just assuming this bc there wasn't a kill so you think it must have been her?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I feel like bad bunny's Day 1 vote is a post that says "I am mafia-aligned", and only a couple of people have engaged that suspicion. If folks have doubts I would very much like to hear them.

[Dana]

How do you unvote here again?

I think people just vote:unvote? like write unvote in the quote tags

[Dana]

How do you unvote here again?

I think people just vote:unvote? like write unvote in the quote tags

not quote.. vote tags

[JaggedJimmyJay]

How do you unvote here again?

you vote for "unvote"

use the usual tags and click the poll option

[Guillotine]

[VOTE: Unvote Gavial] aubergine

[Guillotine]

Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

[Sloonei]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

I don’t think you can be sure of this in a closed role madness game.

[Made]

Two worst votes of Day 1 belong to Act and bad bunny. Belzy's is bad too; at least it came earlier. Owner's is the worst on Made.

an inquisitive man, Made began to form his thoughts into a coherent question

I think I saw your explanation on Owner's vote. what was weird with Act and Bad Bunny's votes?

[Guillotine]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

I don’t think you can be sure of this in a closed role madness game.

I'm perplexed, I don't think there is a role that can target a player to save him/her from a second target and get info too.

[Made]

Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Made, a fan of hard boiled detective stories would occasionally use words and phrases from them when talking to his friends.

What's the scoop on Belzy?

[MacDougall]

I feel like bad bunny's Day 1 vote is a post that says "I am mafia-aligned", and only a couple of people have engaged that suspicion. If folks have doubts I would very much like to hear them.

to be clear I was just playing devil's advocate with my response, you have a reasonable argument

[Guillotine]

@JaggedJimmyJay what do you think of this?

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 85#p795385

Long Con looks bad here, contributes to Made's wagon close to EoD after acknowledging that he is not aware of what Made was being suspected for.

I can understand your beef. LC is an enigmatic figure sometimes. Before I provide an answer I would rather he answer for himself.

@Long Con please talk about your Made vote and what led you to it, thanks.

No, I'm asking you as you seem to be townreading LC.

[Made]

We chop between Belzy and Owner if they dont show up. Also Garden Gnome if they dont begin to contribute more, this will not be the game i lose to lurkers. No chance in hell.

Made cocks his head, clearly confused and concerned

we're not voting Belzy because they're out of thread are we??

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@JaggedJimmyJay what do you think of this?

https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 85#p795385

Long Con looks bad here, contributes to Made's wagon close to EoD after acknowledging that he is not aware of what Made was being suspected for.

I can understand your beef. LC is an enigmatic figure sometimes. Before I provide an answer I would rather he answer for himself.

@Long Con please talk about your Made vote and what led you to it, thanks.

No, I'm asking you as you seem to be townreading LC.

I don't think Long Con realized he was talking to someone who would flip mafia when nutella was in her period of post-poll wifom trolling. I realize this is a dangerous read to make and don't fault anyone who doesn't want to make it. nutella also never mentioned him at all except to say "I forgot about him". I don't figure those two have that kind of dynamic as teammates with their long history on the site.

I am not totally sold on this, and I agree with you that he needs to explain his Made vote. At face value it's not good.

[Guillotine]

Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

Made, a fan of hard boiled detective stories would occasionally use words and phrases from them when talking to his friends.

What's the scoop on Belzy?

Again?

No! ISO me and find it or wait until I'm have the time to look for it again in the thread and quote it for you but rest assure it is gonna take longer than if you just look for it yourself as I'm going to sleep pretty soon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Two worst votes of Day 1 belong to Act and bad bunny. Belzy's is bad too; at least it came earlier. Owner's is the worst on Made.

an inquisitive man, Made began to form his thoughts into a coherent question

I think I saw your explanation on Owner's vote. what was weird with Act and Bad Bunny's votes?

Both Act and bad bunny were present at the deadline, and both placed votes for players not named Made or nutella. Act left their vote on a pointless 1-player Dana "wagon" and bad bunny voted for Owner (a vote that comes with additional problems I observed earlier with respect to bunny's reads). To me those are worse offenses than voting the counterwagon.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: bad bunny] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Exercise for the fans:

How many mafia are contained in this group?

[Actvscenei, bad bunny, Belzy, Owner]

[Guillotine]

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Don't do that. I don't like it.

Giving me town points but also discrediting me for being wack. Cut it out.

This reaction is good.
I’ll say Guillo prob Town.

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Yep I’m convinced.
Jimmy!Scum TMI’s Nutella!Town
This is an obvious pocket for scum Jimmy.

So Gavial townreads me for my reaction to Nutella but townreads Nutella anyway?

Bringing this back for reference

[Guillotine]

actually fuck it, I'm gonna find my scoop on Belzy for Made cause I'm feeling nice.

[MacDougall]

Exercise for the fans:

How many mafia are contained in this group?

[Actvscenei, bad bunny, Belzy, Owner]

I don't think Act is mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Exercise for the fans:

How many mafia are contained in this group?

[Actvscenei, bad bunny, Belzy, Owner]

I don't think Act is mafia.

You could be right. Is it mostly a nutella thing or a general view?

[Guillotine]

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Don't do that. I don't like it.

Giving me town points but also discrediting me for being wack. Cut it out.

This reaction is good.
I’ll say Guillo prob Town.

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Yep I’m convinced.
Jimmy!Scum TMI’s Nutella!Town
This is an obvious pocket for scum Jimmy.

So Gavial townreads me for my reaction to Nutella but townreads Nutella anyway?

Bringing this back for reference

OMG that is the post I did where I replied inside the quotes. This is bad and embarrassing post to bring back as reference.

[Guillotine]

Why does it keep doing that, replying inside the quotes? I made sure I was outside the quote!!!!

[Made]

Why does it keep doing that, replying inside the quotes? I made sure I was outside the quote!!!!

Made realizes his gimmick is a bit confusing so he decided to clarify a bit.

I'm writting a shitty fan fic while playing mafia

[Guillotine]

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

Don't do that. I don't like it.

Giving me town points but also discrediting me for being wack. Cut it out.

This reaction is good.
I’ll say Guillo prob Town.

Guillo's perspective is wack to me but in a town indicative way

prob

Yep I’m convinced.
Jimmy!Scum TMI’s Nutella!Town
This is an obvious pocket for scum Jimmy.

Ok let's try again. For reference.

Gavial townread me here for my reaction to Nutella but townread Nutella right after anyway.

[Sloonei]

Might as well claim it before I go to bed

ME TARGETING HAWK IS THE REASON THERE WAS NO NIGHT KILL LAST NIGHT!

Alright good night everybody!

I don’t think you can be sure of this in a closed role madness game.

I'm perplexed, I don't think there is a role that can target a player to save him/her from a second target and get info too.

I’m assuming there is a roleblock involved.

[Made]

Why does it keep doing that, replying inside the quotes? I made sure I was outside the quote!!!!

Made realizes his gimmick is a bit confusing so he decided to clarify a bit.

I'm writting a shitty fan fic while playing mafia

it was then Made realized he was iliterate

misread, ignore me pls

[Dana]

Why does it keep doing that, replying inside the quotes? I made sure I was outside the quote!!!!

one too few quote close tags im assuming. you can press preview on the bottom to take a look at your post before you post it!

[MacDougall]

Exercise for the fans:

How many mafia are contained in this group?

[Actvscenei, bad bunny, Belzy, Owner]

I don't think Act is mafia.

You could be right. Is it mostly a nutella thing or a general view?

The interactives looked fine to me, which I know you disagree with, but her day 2 play has looked earnest to me. She seems to be solving the game in a pro town manner. At least enough to not deserve to be lumped in as viable in the way you are doing here.

[Guillotine]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

[Sloonei]

Did nutella seem like she had help or support in the thread at any point yesterday?

[MacDougall]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

You found your own reaction scummy?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

On the one hand, seth claims a rb in hawk

On the other, three people (four if we count lomo) visited literally always n1 nked Jay on n1

HMMMM I WONDER WHICH IS MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

On the one hand, seth claims a rb in hawk

On the other, three people (four if we count lomo) visited literally always n1 nked Jay on n1

HMMMM I WONDER WHICH IS MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN

Eh this is poorly worded actually, it should be which is more likely to have stopped a kill

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Did nutella seem like she had help or support in the thread at any point yesterday?

I can't recall an overt, consistent source beyond Tangrowth. Perhaps Long Con at the very end.

[Guillotine]

Town

MacDougall
Belzy
Nanook

Scum

Alison
Nutella
JJJ

Okay, so, I have decided Alison is probably most likely town. I did wonder for a while about the many townreads and leans, and stuff, and the case on Actv, but overall she looks town to me, and it could simply be town who is well present and sincerly part of towncore. Now Alison has said to be able to day vig one time during this game, and threatens to kill Actv at the end of the day. This also makes me lean more and more to Alison being town.

I wonder what your progression on Alison has been since you've posted these reads, and I have another question: what about Tang, Alison and JJ, made you put the latter two in the scum list, and not Tang?

What about Tang?

JJ looks very pockety to me, like his interactions with me and about me are like he is looking for towncred for associating with me and a trap for if he flips scum, i'd get cased and yeeted for post-flip associations. Also i never trust people with too many townreads in a site full of wild cards.

Alison, read my ISO, it's all there and i dont like repeating myself, although... i might be tunneled onto her, i just cant forget that TMI post.

I actually did ISO you right before asking you these questions because I would figure you'd have explained it all, but is not quite all there. Maybe a little bit, but all? No. And you also avoid completely my question on Alison regarding her progression since your read list and the whole day vig threat kill towards Actv. What is your motivation to completely ignore this all, and just end with a simple ''I won't repeat myself''? I have clearly asked you questions that have yet get any kind of answer from you in this thread, and you are just not giving it to me, and I see this kind of behavior from you towards others who want more from you as well.

And what about Tang? Well, I figured Tang, JJJ and Alison were all three strongly present in the game so far, and I actually distrusted Tang the most, which is the complete opposite from your little read list there. So I am hoping you would give me your thought process on why you have nothing to say on Tang. And what about JJJ has been so pocketing that it actually warrants a scum read, and how does JJJ overall play look? Also, I am not seeing the trap you've mentioned.

If you actually looked into my ISO and cant see my case on Alison, i dont think there is any other explanation i can give you to explain my read on her, which means that you actually didnt read it, i suggest to go and actually read it.

Also i hope when you said “little read list” it's because it's actually little and not meant to gaslight my readlist. I really hope so.

I have nothing to say about Tang because i havent focused on her, i remember reacting to one of her posts cause it caught my attention, but a little voice in my head keeps telling me that i may grasping at straws looking for minor details to suspect people.
My focused has been elsewhere and i figure that if she is scum and i dont catch her, someone else from my faction will, i cant catch them all can I?

You are ending with a quite non-interest. Tang has been post count leader from the beginning, and you have literally nothing to say, and are ending your post here with a massive lack of interest discussing this in any further way. The very first time I have quoted and asked you something, you show no willingness to cooperate, and you are gladly continuening with that. Ending with a ''I cant catch them all can I?'' is not so much about whether or not you can... though, funny as you like to catch contradictions, I have one for you: earlier today you've said you usually catch all scum day 1. So what happened with that?

And I have clearly said to you I did ISO you right before I made that previous post, and you dare to say I am not reading?

[VOTE: Guillotine] aubergine cucumber (since aubergine didn't seem to work)

Ok, i rescind my townread on you and OMGUS you because i can.

[VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

For the record, i dont answer to you and you will never strongarm me to do your will.
I dont know if this is your ego reacting to my response, or if it's scum trying to discredit and push on an already established townread player, but just because i don't submit to your will does not mean im not contributing to catch scum, im just not interested in the Tang case, if you are, seek out for people who are.

Scum Pile
Belzy
Gavial

These are a couple I'd be interested to hear more about.

Belzy dipped out when i OMGUS her, ever since then she refers about me and not to me. This was prominent from her scum play in the game i hosted at PerC, where she dipped out after getting some heat and would comeback several hours later when things have gone cold.
It is why im keeping her in my scum list to let her know thst it is not going cold, that it is hot as lava and that I will deathtunnel her if she does not stop referring about me like i am confirmed mafia.

Also i found this comment of hers from post 971 very scummy.

Ending with a ''I cant catch them all can I?'' is not so much about whether or not you can... though, funny as you like to catch contradictions, I have one for you: earlier today you've said you usually catch all scum day 1. So what happened with that?

And I have clearly said to you I did ISO you right before I made that previous post, and you dare to say I am not reading?

[VOTE: GUILLOTINE] aubergine cucumber (since aubergine didn't seem to work)

I stated i often catch all scum on Day 1, specially during RVS. She is using that to cast a bad light on me when i said I cant catch them all here. As if anyone can guarantee catching all scum on day 1 every damn time. I feel it's a hollow and ill intended push.

@Made

[Made]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

Made empathized with Actv's reaction and responded accordingly

doesn't sound scummy to me, assuming that Act and you have history. Why is this scummy?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also like I'm kinda sad cause seth could've said "I tracked you to Jay, hawk, what do you say to that? And potentially outed hawk if they tried to claim something that moves, but alas

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I love you made please never stop

[Guillotine]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

You found your own reaction scummy?

No dude, Act's WTF?! Don't troll me, I'm not in the mood.

[Owner of a Lonely Heart]

@Owner of a Lonely Heart I gave you a second chance yesterday. Town up and show me it was the right decision.

Nutella flipped scum so I think that was good decision regardless.

I don't know what I expected. But I think was thinking of regular posting levels, not a mismatch of there's no way I can be caught in timely fashion and playing a game with several vets don't know me. I mean I knew there would be new people, but I didn't prep too much for culture clashing or anything.


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I don't have a lot of time tonight. But I'll try to get some current stances out.

hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?

I initially felt pinged by the icky feeling words, but reading it now it feels like Act is reacting to Dana's words as if to say she kind of sounds fake or it is sort of a blanket statement or could just be filler

- light town for Act

hello everyone! I'm so nervous but also very excited to make lots of new friends!!

This post has my attention. Don’t like it. Seems scummy.

Let’s get to know each other more so I can get rid of this icky feeling. What are you most excited about and what are you most nervous for?

What don't you like about it? Seems non AI to me.

Unlike your posts that felt genuine, this feels like a forced nicety. Among a couple other things, but I’m working that out in a convo with Dana! Stay tuned. Thoughts may change.

- scum!Act is different, she's town for me

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If act has a read on gnome already she's a hot stinking liar

tell me more

Well she already admitted she can't read gnome, and it's true. So if act is town idk why she would base any of her reads on interactions around gnome.

I feel like it doesn't matter if she can't read gnome. Like all times when I suspected Dizzy or town read him, even if I didn't always have the best reads on him, I still felt like maybe I can read him this time around because maybe I have learned from x situation or have seen a new pattern. Just because of something said this game, I feel stronger about a read.

I'm null on Kito. I need read his ISO/hope he's town, since my scum meta on him is still that one game where was super dramatic for one moment, and I highly doubt he will do that here if he's scum.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I just saw the word "gnome" in Owner's post there and remembered that Garden Gnome is a player in the game. That's an analysis I need to do.

[Guillotine]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

Made empathized with Actv's reaction and responded accordingly

doesn't sound scummy to me, assuming that Act and you have history. Why is this scummy?

It all started with Dana. She posted that she was both nervous and scummy which both Act and I found weird. Why would you feel nervous doing RVS right? Unless you randed an alignment you are not comfortable with and you are having a hard time to blend in, so you post that you are nervous to try to get sympathy from us. Typical LAMIST post, it's what I thought.

Then Nutella finds me that my reads are wack but because of that I'm just town, which I really hated and I pushed her for it, you can't townread me and gaslight me at the same time, that shit is fake! I deathtunneled her and she flipped scum, anyways, so back to the subject...Act, who originally found Dana's nervous statement as it could be a scum tell, then tells Nutella right in front of me that yah, my reason to scumread Nutella is weak but not out of my play style. She pretty much discredited my read on Nutella while also pushing Dana with me.

Sounded like slap to my face and maybe a possible w/w team up with Nut.

Maybe

[Guillotine]

I agree with this, and I also find Guillo’s suspicion on that point weak, but not out of his play style.

Holy shit, is this "lets-townread-guillo-because-he-is-wack-and-weak" day or what?

This is the reaction to Act's post about me that I found... scummy.

Made empathized with Actv's reaction and responded accordingly

doesn't sound scummy to me, assuming that Act and you have history. Why is this scummy?

It all started with Dana. She posted that she was both nervous and scummy which both Act and I found weird. Why would you feel nervous doing RVS right? Unless you randed an alignment you are not comfortable with and you are having a hard time to blend in, so you post that you are nervous to try to get sympathy from us. Typical LAMIST post, it's what I thought.

Then Nutella finds me that my reads are wack but because of that I'm just town, which I really hated and I pushed her for it, you can't townread me and gaslight me at the same time, that shit is fake! I deathtunneled her and she flipped scum, anyways, so back to the subject...Act, who originally found Dana's nervous statement as it could be a scum tell, then tells Nutella right in front of me that yah, my reason to scumread Nutella is weak but not out of my play style. She pretty much discredited my read on Nutella while also pushing Dana with me.

Sounded like slap to my face and maybe a possible w/w team up with Nut.

Maybe

Dana posted that she was both nervous and excited* (Correction)