The Syndicate

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:42 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:41 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:41 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:40 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.

I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread

RT RT RT
i don't get why he's being read townread easily. Not to say i currently read him as scum, but he's not the kinda guy you give out free townreads to

on the basis of what game?

I believe epi currently has the most wins of anyone on this site

so, yes.

And not a damn one this year.

Didn't you win a scum game earlier this year

Maybe you didn't and I just assumed you did cause I read you wrong and died early, idk

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:43 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:42 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:41 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:41 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:40 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:37 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:03 pm I kinda wanted to see how long I could go with the gimmick and retain the ability to get some amount of thoughts across, id say it worked reasonably well and the people paying attention/trying to were mostly able to accurately interpret it.

I'm dropping it now just because I cannot emphasize enough how epi is not townie and should not be townread

RT RT RT
i don't get why he's being read townread easily. Not to say i currently read him as scum, but he's not the kinda guy you give out free townreads to

on the basis of what game?

I believe epi currently has the most wins of anyone on this site

so, yes.

And not a damn one this year.

Didn't you win a scum game earlier this year

Not a damn one this year.

I feel so bloodthirsty it aint even funny. U is just lucky i dont wanna distract the thread too much, id be talking mad shit rn about how im gonna turn yall into a coat. Fucking wolves.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:56 pm last night i targeted poison bc i was too lazy to reread and mac said they were a 3p read and i hate all 3p so i went on it LMFAO

scotty/sig still on my scumdar

so is poison bad?

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:01 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:54 pm I don't really have much to say right now. Eod was a bad look for the people that put Dya over(ish....i'll explain)

If we're looking for our wolf, and syn is scum (or sig is scum for that matter) we're looking for the player(s) that hesitated voting with mac initially, then changed their mind maybe an hour or two before end of day. Depending the brass on the players who changed their votes at EOD will tell you how late EOD scum would of hoped off of Syn/Sig. late hop offs are >randscum on bolder players, while early hops are scum on more thread state sensitive players.

That's my hypothesis, gonna read end of day and see who shows up based on that

hello i am fresh from an EOD read

the wagon switch-offs happened in the last half hour and everyone seemed pretty gung-ho about following Mac

ted expressed hesitance, as did sig and TSP (TSP did sheep first)

Mac votes
then TSP
then Michelle
then Ender (? he says vote sheeped but didn't use vote tags, he voted according to the tally though)
then KZA
then Rondo

NANOOK, Epi, and MR voted without posting? or were they on dya before Mac?

I would have to check but I am pretty sure everyone listed here had expressed a sheep on mac because he was IC before the switch and had followed him to another vote earlier (I am not 100% sure EVERYONE is right)

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:07 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:01 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:54 pm I don't really have much to say right now. Eod was a bad look for the people that put Dya over(ish....i'll explain)

If we're looking for our wolf, and syn is scum (or sig is scum for that matter) we're looking for the player(s) that hesitated voting with mac initially, then changed their mind maybe an hour or two before end of day. Depending the brass on the players who changed their votes at EOD will tell you how late EOD scum would of hoped off of Syn/Sig. late hop offs are >randscum on bolder players, while early hops are scum on more thread state sensitive players.

That's my hypothesis, gonna read end of day and see who shows up based on that

hello i am fresh from an EOD read

the wagon switch-offs happened in the last half hour and everyone seemed pretty gung-ho about following Mac

ted expressed hesitance, as did sig and TSP (TSP did sheep first)

Mac votes
then TSP
then Michelle
then Ender (? he says vote sheeped but didn't use vote tags, he voted according to the tally though)
then KZA
then Rondo

NANOOK, Epi, and MR voted without posting? or were they on dya before Mac?

imma do something radical here:
Michelle will prob flip at end of day, if you assume she's town, then even if you're wrong, we get a wolf at the end of day, so it doesn't matter like that
KZA is dead town
Mac is innocent child.

Nanook and Epi both voted before mac. Nanook voted before mac even put his read, so i'd argue he's not the pusher of the "let's chop dya" wagon. Epi voted once it looked like steam could pick up there, so wanna pivot back there eventually, but i'm not gonna for the purpose of this thought.

that leaves TSP, Ender, and Rondo. If the vote for Dya was a save, scum is one of the 3

if there has to be a wolf on that wagon I would lean towards TSP atm but I have no proof I will ISO later, Ender feels town this game to me but I will ISO later
However Mac claimed inno town and anyone not voting with him is scum so there is pressure for people to vote with him, we all announced we were following

112 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:07 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sat Aug 28, 2021 3:10 pm @Epignosis @112 @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @TonyStarkPrime
Who are you going to switch to off your vanity wagons if you intend to switch?

once i am convinced by strong rhetoric

24 hours late

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:09 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:08 pm scum killed on wagon that means it was probably pure :3

TMI?

[VOTE: DkKoba ] aubergine

not that I am defending DrKoba, it could just be experience talking? Is there something specific that makes you think its TMI?

super not compelled by the case on epi

only played two or three games with him but have never understood him as someone who wouldn't care and would just dayvig a momentary annoyance on D1 if he's scum

Life's been busy, school for the kids n such. What's new and exciting?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:11 pm I love how quick ppl are to just be like "Mac must be alive cuz how wrong he was" when I usually get left alive when my reads are good anyway.

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:11 pm I love how quick ppl are to just be like "Mac must be alive cuz how wrong he was" when I usually get left alive when my reads are good anyway.

didnt u out as IC coz u were convinced u were gonna die anyway

could have been left alive because of my suspicion and tinfoil expecting I would push mac for a chop. Im going to let someone else push Mac for now Ill just assume wolves want us to kill mac

I doubt one town tinfoiling the IC would make them leave him alive tbh.

tbh would not have guessed a kza flip

i pass kyle in total posts with this post

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:32 pm Btw if town poisoned me please don't claim

so I shouldnt claim that I poisoned you?

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:41 pm If koba isn't modkilled rn i'm going to riot fr

ATE, yawn

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:56 pm

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:01 pm

Made wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 4:54 pm I don't really have much to say right now. Eod was a bad look for the people that put Dya over(ish....i'll explain)

If we're looking for our wolf, and syn is scum (or sig is scum for that matter) we're looking for the player(s) that hesitated voting with mac initially, then changed their mind maybe an hour or two before end of day. Depending the brass on the players who changed their votes at EOD will tell you how late EOD scum would of hoped off of Syn/Sig. late hop offs are >randscum on bolder players, while early hops are scum on more thread state sensitive players.

That's my hypothesis, gonna read end of day and see who shows up based on that

hello i am fresh from an EOD read

the wagon switch-offs happened in the last half hour and everyone seemed pretty gung-ho about following Mac

ted expressed hesitance, as did sig and TSP (TSP did sheep first)

Mac votes
then TSP
then Michelle
then Ender (? he says vote sheeped but didn't use vote tags, he voted according to the tally though)
then KZA
then Rondo

NANOOK, Epi, and MR voted without posting? or were they on dya before Mac?

I would have to check but I am pretty sure everyone listed here had expressed a sheep on mac because he was IC before the switch and had followed him to another vote earlier (I am not 100% sure EVERYONE is right)

I was on well before mac

I may have been the first vote, not sure

I did call it in thread so should be easy to find

Syn wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:14 pm super not compelled by the case on epi

only played two or three games with him but have never understood him as someone who wouldn't care and would just dayvig a momentary annoyance on D1 if he's scum

He would 100% shoot naa specifically

talking about bad reads but KZA was my top town the entire day

was definitely a gamer choice not to fire at me, someone wants to party

where is the mech red check that we needed n1... fucken what good are u ppl

Idk why i woke up but since this happened i read that page where i was when i last posted

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:23 pm OMG I REMEMBER WHY I SAID I TOWNREAD DYA SLOT PREDESSESOR BC

LIKE

I RANDED TOWN WITH CREATURE B4 AND THEY GOT SUSSED FOR WEIRD POSTS AND I ASSUMED "oh if creature getting sussed that means they are town lol" but i didt know they neverr posted because i havent read most of D1 lol

You had time to think at this, but the site has a very easy way to check an Iso and you made a read without substance and there is that

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:19 pm now if tutuu asked me for a reads list i would give them up :3

Nice

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:19 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:18 pm @DkKoba please post your reads

you can't force me to sorry.

you can either read what I'm saying and how i interact with people or wait until I feel inspired enough to post a reads list. I dont do so until I have at least a certain confident level of townreads.

That's gross if you are villager

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:24 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:56 pm nook

made

are the people in my opinion had the scummiest day 2's

koba and michelle i started off scumreading but i thought had some good stuff, so im deciding what to think

radish, poison and falcon are the other 3 people i had the intention to scumread, still havent decided yet / havent read back / havent seen a lot today to judge

Other than Nook I vibe with a lot of this.

Made was towny D1 but I'm wavering on that one. His D2 has not felt good.

How do you vibe with me being read as mafia? Asking like from DVC after i flipped town

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:26 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:58 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:24 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:23 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:16 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:10 pm
whats TMI about it?

Wagon being pure.
It's a supposition who can bring misinformation and looks like a narrative

you're deadass making shit up LMFAO wtf are you on about?

i made a fucking half joke because i didnt see any names i scumread on the list of people who voted after mac

are you desperate to mislim me after I claimed PR?

good thing u are dying this day phase

I love it when people make predictions about who is dying when.

The person they were talking to is poisoned?

Yes, i am poisoned

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:27 pm da town: epi, tutuu, ted, mac, ender, michelle

mebe town: urist, syn, 112

people who i have legitimately not seen a single post from: drwilgy, falcon, nanook, rondo, ruri, tonystark

da idk zone: made, masterradishes, poison

woah buddy.... wtf: sig, scotty

i want bubblegum now!!

Soo
You have me as town but you refuse to engage with a TR because I am flipping at eod, or what is the reason you reffuse interaction for?

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:29 pm see i have a lot of potential of being good at this game but i fuck it up by having literally no effort in reading the game LMFAO

I saw town you seriously playing, this is just another excuse

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:33 pm i will lend u a vote :3 [VOTE: nanook] aubergine

This vote is too fast and too pockety towards tutuu no matter Nanook's alignament

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:14 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:09 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:08 pm scum killed on wagon that means it was probably pure :3

TMI?

[VOTE: DkKoba ] aubergine

not that I am defending DrKoba, it could just be experience talking? Is there something specific that makes you think its TMI?

Yes, it is.
I think 90% (more or less without statistic importance) from the players who are speculating about the purity of a wagon without analysing in more depth the wagons flipped wolves in the games i played.
I have now pretty big experience in mafia and i rand 90% town in my games, idk why (i am envious at the 50% of Made because practice improves wolfing skills).

Ask Mac @MacDougall if a read i have can be trusted or not and ask Insomnia @Tedxtr if my unusual way of reading even if for you seems unexplained is for me solid and often accurate.

tedxtr wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:55 pm new quest : create a townblock that includes around 10 people

what are the quest rewards?

how insulting, michelle calling me a 1 dimensional player

why are you voting for nanook?

@tutuu why are you pretending to have a read on nanook when everyone knows he's completely unreadable?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 9:46 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:32 pm Btw if town poisoned me please don't claim

so I shouldnt claim that I poisoned you?

Nope
Did you?

you have excuses as to why you should continue scumreading me michelle, I can fling the same shit back, because you refuse to see anything but red.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:07 pm how insulting, michelle calling me a 1 dimensional player

I didn't say this. But if you think i did, quote me the words

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:08 pm why are you voting for nanook?

@tutuu why are you pretending to have a read on nanook when everyone knows he's completely unreadable?

im gameing and also no one is interested in the wagons i want so i just settle for info pushes :3

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:07 pm how insulting, michelle calling me a 1 dimensional player

I didn't say this. But if you think i did, quote me the words

you heavily imply it when you say that i should be offering reads lists on demand and that you saw me once as a town try very hard!!!!!!! omg i guess i play every game the same now (((

the way you are reading me is very 1 dimensional so i have to only assume you think that is all that is needed to read me

im just like excited because i know when you join dead chat you will be able to see how wrong you were.

but also you will likely never learn because you are too stubborn to understand people can have different playstyles that work for them and its just lazy play to autobin those people as scum for their townplay :3

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:07 pm u townread a 0 poster for purity

0 posters are pure...
also i think i kinda messed up my memory and did townread dya but i made the false leap that the predecessor was towny somewhere.


dont do mafia and weed at the same time friends

note to self, 0 post next game

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 pm you have excuses as to why you should continue scumreading me michelle, I can fling the same shit back, because you refuse to see anything but red.

What reason do you have to not make a constructive convo with me, if you have me as TR, despite my SR i have for you?

Why are you happy i will flip at eod if you TR me?

like cmon "you tried once as town so you're scum here"

is like the worst argument ive probably heard for me being scum - and there's a good reason you only have these kinds of bad arguments for me being scum. i'll let you simmer and think about why that may be.

if there is an equally good reason why its plausible for me as town to post it as it is for scum me to post it - its not a good reason to scumread me for it

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:12 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 pm you have excuses as to why you should continue scumreading me michelle, I can fling the same shit back, because you refuse to see anything but red.

What reason do you have to not make a constructive convo with me, if you have me as TR, despite my SR i have for you?

Why are you happy i will flip at eod if you TR me?

because i think you are not that helpful tbh.

i townread people who i dont really listen to all the time.

i am not obligated to listen to someone ive townbinned. it just makes it easier because i can just ignore their reads and just focus on my own reading.

I don't think dk has an activity tell fwiw

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:26 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:22 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:20 pm i'm pink!
Thanks tutuu tbh
But why is DkKoba the same colour like me?

you are both enigmas for me rn

im conflicted between wanting to trust myself and scumread u but i dont want to ignore that you're doing stuff that i think is towny. so to ease my conscience i gave u a special tier so i dont feel bad if im too wrong

Okay, AMA and find me

give me a read on everyone in the game please so when you die and flip town or scum we can postulate on what you would say tomorrow

mac is literally confirmed town - and yet you are going against his read on me.

and yet you're attacking me for not wanting to dialogue a townread.


cmon michelle you're better than that. i can deconstruct bad reasoning all day.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:15 pm I don't think dk has an activity tell fwiw

i did recently intentionally slank in a scum hydra due to meta expectations being that i would carry as scum and then ended up winning the game as a universal townread.

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:33 pmKoba maf

Urist wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:35 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:34 pm if the case on me is so compelling however, write one up. it should be sooo easy since "all my posts are wolfy" according to you @Michelle

I eagerly await tearing it down.

Wolfy post

This is my style for the game after I 0 post.

there's no chance the michelle poison was a town poisoner, michelle as a town poison target would be just ridiculous honestly

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:10 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:09 pm

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:07 pm how insulting, michelle calling me a 1 dimensional player

I didn't say this. But if you think i did, quote me the words

you heavily imply it when you say that i should be offering reads lists on demand and that you saw me once as a town try very hard!!!!!!! omg i guess i play every game the same now (((

I asked for reads, not for a list, reads in general are small opinions for few players, preferably (but not mandatory) backed up by a one line reason.
Idk why you avoided me and wasted my time on you if you are TRing me except you don't give 2 cents on me as villager, and if this is the case, i would like to know why.

DkKoba wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:15 pm mac is literally confirmed town - and yet you are going against his read on me.

and yet you're attacking me for not wanting to dialogue a townread.


cmon michelle you're better than that. i can deconstruct bad reasoning all day.

people are going against all my reads so who cares

michelle, i intentionally posted those games i did to show that everything you've tried to sling at me is strictly NAI for me and you refuse to look at the information and inform yourself. that's your own fault if anything.

you have bad preconceptions of how town/scum act and i can't change that unless you want to

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:40 pm chill guys, its all good. lets keep the fun vibes from day 1

day 1 is over and so are the fun times. Today is tough times.

@EnderWiggin thoughts on tutuu?

I feel like most people here don't realise how dangerous mafia Tutuu really is tbh. She had the best scum game of anyone I've ever seen not so long ago. She's probably the best player on the site at playing the wolf alignment. And I am a confirmed town telling you that I have felt zero mind melds with her and almost every one of her pushes has been opposed to me.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 10:18 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:40 pm chill guys, its all good. lets keep the fun vibes from day 1

day 1 is over and so are the fun times. Today is tough times.

these are the days

Tutuu has been treating me with absolute kiddie gloves while also hard pushing against my townreads, and townreading almost all of my POE. She is not town here.