Re: [DAY 1] - The Fellowship of the Ring Mafia (LoTR I)
Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:54 pm
You are the anti-Slo
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
You are the anti-Slo
You really crumbled here on the voting of Long Con. Was that vote supposed to make me feel some sort of pressure? I don't recall feeling it.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:49 pmNormal Rabbit is normal. What bandwagon? Are you going with the fact that I voted for LC? Go with that then, and assume my vote can't be changed.......Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 12:44 pm I went looking for why rabbit's vote is on LC.Is this normal day 1 rabbit behavior? He's provided next to nothing of substance in all of his posts so far, and this looks like a super easy bandwagon vote. I'm not sure a maphier (word of the game) would be so careless, but rabbit is not a player i'm familiar with.
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Started the game off by claiming to be new. This turned out to be controversial:
Her noobie claim was contested immediately and she walked it back, then splashed in some non-game meta justification for lynching Kyle. It doesn't seem serious, but that sort of joke suspicion always strikes me as having the potential to be used by scum looking to skate by early in games. That said, I don't feel like this kind of behavior (both the jesting lynch justification and the dubious noobious claim) is necessarily suspicious. It's going to depend on how she follows it up once the game gets going in earnest. So...Ambray wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:00 pm Lolololol. Here we go.
Not I'm not new. I started playing 10years ago on LP and have played on various sites since with several people here. But it has been a long time since I last played, excluding the speed game or whatever you called it I played on here the other night.
And if Kyle talks about SoFi, he's talking about me - that used to be my name....
I also like to lynch him a lot. For giggles.
And has not moved his vote off nutella.
Not too impressed with rabbit's play so far. Putting down phony pressure votes just to not look like a "no vote weirdo" is something I have done in the past, and I got called out for it, and I was bad. We might be seeing that here with rabbit8, and it's an easy play to fall back on when you're a little rusty.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm LC has responded to each of the four votes that were cast against them. To rabbit and myself, he responded by throwing suspicion back in our faces. But to Epi and nutella he said thisLAnd has not moved his vote off nutella.
LC, what's up? Have you paid more attention yet? why are you still voting for nutella? what's your read on rabbit?
what is your experience with rabbit as a player?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pmNot too impressed with rabbit's play so far. Putting down phony pressure votes just to not look like a "no vote weirdo" is something I have done in the past, and I got called out for it, and I was bad. We might be seeing that here with rabbit8, and it's an easy play to fall back on when you're a little rusty.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm LC has responded to each of the four votes that were cast against them. To rabbit and myself, he responded by throwing suspicion back in our faces. But to Epi and nutella he said thisLAnd has not moved his vote off nutella.
LC, what's up? Have you paid more attention yet? why are you still voting for nutella? what's your read on rabbit?
I no longer consider myself as voting for nutella, I just haven't decided another place to put it yet. Short list, I have Jack and rabbit. Jackrabbit. I'll go rabbit.
We have played together many times, but it has been a while.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:32 pmwhat is your experience with rabbit as a player?Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pmNot too impressed with rabbit's play so far. Putting down phony pressure votes just to not look like a "no vote weirdo" is something I have done in the past, and I got called out for it, and I was bad. We might be seeing that here with rabbit8, and it's an easy play to fall back on when you're a little rusty.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm LC has responded to each of the four votes that were cast against them. To rabbit and myself, he responded by throwing suspicion back in our faces. But to Epi and nutella he said thisLAnd has not moved his vote off nutella.
LC, what's up? Have you paid more attention yet? why are you still voting for nutella? what's your read on rabbit?
I no longer consider myself as voting for nutella, I just haven't decided another place to put it yet. Short list, I have Jack and rabbit. Jackrabbit. I'll go rabbit.
I'm drowning in nihilistic delusion......
WTF kind of pointless post is this?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:30 pm ISOs
Ambray
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
insertnamehere
Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
Long Con
Macdougall
novaselinenever
nutella
rabbit8
Sloonei
timmer
Marmot
I need to stop wasting time and get to work on school junk.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:31 pmNot too impressed with rabbit's play so far. Putting down phony pressure votes just to not look like a "no vote weirdo" is something I have done in the past, and I got called out for it, and I was bad. We might be seeing that here with rabbit8, and it's an easy play to fall back on when you're a little rusty.Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:22 pm LC has responded to each of the four votes that were cast against them. To rabbit and myself, he responded by throwing suspicion back in our faces. But to Epi and nutella he said thisLAnd has not moved his vote off nutella.
LC, what's up? Have you paid more attention yet? why are you still voting for nutella? what's your read on rabbit?
I no longer consider myself as voting for nutella, I just haven't decided another place to put it yet. Short list, I have Jack and rabbit. Jackrabbit. I'll go rabbit.
One I started making myself before Sloonei beat me to it.rabbit8 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:10 pmWTF kind of pointless post is this?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:30 pm ISOs
Ambray
DFaraday
DrWilgy
Epignosis
Glorfindel
insertnamehere
Jackofhearts2005
Kylemii
Long Con
Macdougall
novaselinenever
nutella
rabbit8
Sloonei
timmer
Marmot
I need to stop wasting time and get to work on school junk.
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:02 pmso...why am I not as suspicious as Kyle considering I said pretty much the same things?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pmEBWOPJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:48 pm[img]Mac's responses to your questions feel inauthentic. I don't believe Kyle didn't know about Glor saying he wouldn't claim town. His push felt fake and the backpedal is crap. He absolutely was pushing Glor because he wouldn't say he was town so being like "Oh you didn't need to claim" is yuck.[/inh]
Kylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pmhey jack, most of what you're saying here is wrong.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pmEBWOP
i didn't remember glorfindel saying he wouldn't claim before until sloonei brought it up, i don't remember every single thing that everyone says. my initial push on glorf was for the reason of testing to see if he would do the thing he always does, which he hadn't done yet. But after Sloonei brought up his post from the previous game, and started defending glorfindel, (while glorfindel wasn't defending himself) my reason for questioning changed.
I wanted to know why Sloonei was explaining glorfindel but glorfindel wasn't explaining glorfindel.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:49 amWhat's this? Is this moderate agreement to my accusation of nutella? It definitely wasn't calling it bullshit. The Noble smiley is a strong positive. Are you one of those baddies that prod a case from the sidelines?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 1:20 amLong Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:13 pmYour post is rife with hip jargon that I don't feel is natural for you. That's not how you usually talk, is it? It just pinged me as possibly forced and fake.nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:03 pmso you suspect me? why?Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:00 pmThat was my initial take on it.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:38 pmU badnutella wrote: ↑Mon Jan 29, 2018 7:27 pm
you're asking all these questions to the point of sounding fake
idk the chance that you're actually teammates is probably pretty low, especially with all this interaction right after the game thread opens on day 0, but still I could see it as a possibility based on this behavior. and making a bold assertion like this should stimulate the discussion. hence the hot take![]()
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MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:35 amNo actually I'm civ so I presume the rest of your reads are wrong tooJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:40 pm Spent line twenty minutes trying to make a rainbow list on mobile with quotes and smilies and my daughter closed the damn tab.
Fuck it.
Kyle and Mac are bad.
LC and Nutella are meh.
INH, Sloonei, Epi are good.
And of course Glor is good.
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 am Inauthentic replies to Sloonei's questions hey. Gonna have to do better than that if you want to build a mislynch wagon on me that lazy civs and some Maphiers can dive on. Try quoting a post and saying this one and that should do it.
Is there something about Mac saying you want to mislynch him that makes him wolfy?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:40 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:35 amNo actually I'm civ so I presume the rest of your reads are wrong tooJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:40 pm Spent line twenty minutes trying to make a rainbow list on mobile with quotes and smilies and my daughter closed the damn tab.
Fuck it.
Kyle and Mac are bad.
LC and Nutella are meh.
INH, Sloonei, Epi are good.
And of course Glor is good.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 am Inauthentic replies to Sloonei's questions hey. Gonna have to do better than that if you want to build a mislynch wagon on me that lazy civs and some Maphiers can dive on. Try quoting a post and saying this one and that should do it.
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I appreciate your cool-faces thing you're trying to do but I would appreciate an actual text response more, I would like to know how you came to the specific interpretations of my posts that you did, from the actual content of my posts.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:32 pmKylemii wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:19 pmhey jack, most of what you're saying here is wrong.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:49 pmEBWOP
i didn't remember glorfindel saying he wouldn't claim before until sloonei brought it up, i don't remember every single thing that everyone says. my initial push on glorf was for the reason of testing to see if he would do the thing he always does, which he hadn't done yet. But after Sloonei brought up his post from the previous game, and started defending glorfindel, (while glorfindel wasn't defending himself) my reason for questioning changed.
I wanted to know why Sloonei was explaining glorfindel but glorfindel wasn't explaining glorfindel.
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specifically all of this partJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:48 pmI don't believe Kyle didn't know about Glor saying he wouldn't claim town. His push felt fake and the backpedal is crap. He absolutely was pushing Glor because he wouldn't say he was town so being like "Oh you didn't need to claim" is yuck.
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:46 pmIs there something about Mac saying you want to mislynch him that makes him wolfy?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:40 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:35 amNo actually I'm civ so I presume the rest of your reads are wrong tooJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:40 pm Spent line twenty minutes trying to make a rainbow list on mobile with quotes and smilies and my daughter closed the damn tab.
Fuck it.
Kyle and Mac are bad.
LC and Nutella are meh.
INH, Sloonei, Epi are good.
And of course Glor is good.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 am Inauthentic replies to Sloonei's questions hey. Gonna have to do better than that if you want to build a mislynch wagon on me that lazy civs and some Maphiers can dive on. Try quoting a post and saying this one and that should do it.
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Mac wrote:the rest of your reads are wrong too
Mac wrote:wrong
Mac wrote:wrong
Mac wrote:wrong
Mac wrote:trying to mislynch me
So for you it's just totally normal and expected for Sloonei to quash lines of questioning on day one? To create an environment where a questioned player doesn't need to explain themselves because it's already being done for them?
OH I see. So, is Mac saying you are wrong, and therefore a Civ, or that you want to mislynch him, and are therefore bad?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:56 pmLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:46 pmIs there something about Mac saying you want to mislynch him that makes him wolfy?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 2:40 pmMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:35 amNo actually I'm civ so I presume the rest of your reads are wrong tooJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:40 pm Spent line twenty minutes trying to make a rainbow list on mobile with quotes and smilies and my daughter closed the damn tab.
Fuck it.
Kyle and Mac are bad.
LC and Nutella are meh.
INH, Sloonei, Epi are good.
And of course Glor is good.MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 1:40 am Inauthentic replies to Sloonei's questions hey. Gonna have to do better than that if you want to build a mislynch wagon on me that lazy civs and some Maphiers can dive on. Try quoting a post and saying this one and that should do it.
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Mac wrote:the rest of your reads are wrong tooMac wrote:wrongMac wrote:wrongMac wrote:wrongMac wrote:trying to mislynch me
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Are you questioning me for providing an explanation of Glorfindel's behavior?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:01 pmSo for you it's just totally normal and expected for Sloonei to quash lines of questioning on day one? To create an environment where a questioned player doesn't need to explain themselves because it's already being done for them?
Do you have any other reads to share? what is your experience with rabbit as a player?
The fact that you explained his behavior once was fine, but even after that, you were giving Glorfindel opportunities to not have to explain himself, or his attempted change in meta. Why not let him speak for himself? Why was it important for you to be the one to do it?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:12 pmAre you questioning me for providing an explanation of Glorfindel's behavior?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:01 pmSo for you it's just totally normal and expected for Sloonei to quash lines of questioning on day one? To create an environment where a questioned player doesn't need to explain themselves because it's already being done for them?
I stood up for Glorfindel because I don't like to see people manipulating his meta to get an easy read on him. I feel like it's teetering on the edge of what is or isn't in the spirit of the game. He's stated that he doesn't want this to be something that follows him around in every game, and I think his behavior in this thread indicates his discomfort with it. I wanted us to move away from that particular line of inquiry. I don't wish to speak for him, but I also don't want to see him pursued in a way that I think is unfair or uncomfortable for him.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:31 pmThe fact that you explained his behavior once was fine, but even after that, you were giving Glorfindel opportunities to not have to explain himself, or his attempted change in meta. Why not let him speak for himself? Why was it important for you to be the one to do it?Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:12 pmAre you questioning me for providing an explanation of Glorfindel's behavior?Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:01 pmSo for you it's just totally normal and expected for Sloonei to quash lines of questioning on day one? To create an environment where a questioned player doesn't need to explain themselves because it's already being done for them?
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I guess maybe that's where I misunderstand glorfindel, but isn't that the point? I thought he doesn't lie specifically to give himself an easier time in mafia games as a civ, specifically at his own expense when he rolls mafia? I thought that was the actual literal purpose for his doing that in every game.
No, I think it's just a personal conviction against lying. He won't do it.Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 3:58 pmI guess maybe that's where I misunderstand glorfindel, but isn't that the point? I thought he doesn't lie specifically to give himself an easier time in mafia games as a civ, specifically at his own expense when he rolls mafia? I thought that was the actual literal purpose for his doing that in every game.