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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 am
by iaafr
has anbydoy in the history of mafia seen scum conspicuous vote no lynch at end of day day 1

i havent personally

interested in links

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 am
by iaafr
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:08 am the only civ here is pawn and hes already on my side and if he wanted help id give it but he hasnt asked
So you aren't a civilian? Neat.
haha nice!!!!

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:10 am
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 am has anbydoy in the history of mafia seen scum conspicuous vote no lynch at end of day day 1

i havent personally

interested in links
inb4 low effort joke about this game

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:10 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:09 am
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:08 am the only civ here is pawn and hes already on my side and if he wanted help id give it but he hasnt asked
So you aren't a civilian? Neat.
Lol gottem.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:10 am
by iaafr
i will destroy you all

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:10 am
by Epignosis
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:08 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:59 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:58 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:57 am Pawn, you seem to have an affinity for iaafr. Can you elaborate?
An affinity in terms of having a read that I believe is correct or personality + style?
You seem to like what he's doing. Any outside commentary from someone I even remotely trust would be coveted.
For the most part since early D1 I've honestly found him to be largely acting in a town manner and I generally like the direction that he has pushed in terms of reads. And yes, he did the unvote rather than vote but that doesn't change that he's been fairly solid everywhere else this game.

Especially when you consider the fact that the fact that he removed the 112 vote still helped with Drago and is something that he had to have known would be scummy looking as either alignment due to timing. And full disclosure that is the type of play I have done before, and while it's risky it is something that can work in terms of trying to guarantee a life extension. So I can see the thought process and the weird half measure doesn't feel like scum in that instance, since he would have committed to a hard stance and not ended it on the no lynch.

And while I think iaafr is overreacting in terms of annoyance from your questions I can see how his frustration comes from the setup and is being exacerbated, where the way he is reacting isn't necessarily productive, but feels like town iaafr from what I've observed in other games and spec.
I respect your opinion. Thank you.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Alright, [mention]Epignosis[/mention] and [mention]iaafr[/mention] can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
by Epignosis
I'm off. I'll be free tomorrow.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
by iaafr
sure thing buddy

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
by Jackofhearts2005
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
Now that we’re alone... :blush:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
by Epignosis
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
I'm perfectly cool. I am, however, quite tired, as I alluded to above.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:13 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
Now that we’re alone... :blush:
And here I thought you'd never ask~

:hugs:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:14 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am I'm off. I'll be free tomorrow.
iaafr wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 amsure thing buddy
Appreciated from both of you.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:15 am
by iaafr
just kidding im back

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:18 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:12 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:11 am Alright, @Epignosis and @iaafr can you both leave the thread for 30 minutes to an hour? So both of you can cool off and stop sniping and we can try to make the thread productive again once you return.
Now that we’re alone... :blush:
The demon queen of high school has decreed it
She says Monday, 8am I will be deleted
They'll hunt me down in study hall
Stuff and mount me on the wall
Thirty hours to live, how shall I spend them?
I don't have to stay and die like cattle
I could change my name and ride up to Seattle
But I don't own a motorbike
Wait, here's an option that I like
Spend these thirty hours getting freaky!

(:v)

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:32 am
by sprityo
I'd like to begin with an apology for my outburst at the end of the day.

Not very cool of professional of me. Here's to keeping a cool head today yeah?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:34 am
by sprityo
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:33 pm Here, I saved the wording of her flip:

"You are the subconscious aspect of conscientiousness.

You represent the mark’s steadfastness in the proper and thorough completion of tasks set before them.

You begin the game with the knowledge that REDACTED is an aspect of the subconscious and not an intruder.

REDACTED

You will win the game if all threats to the subconscious mind are eliminated."
I wanted to say that the first redacted is obviously a name, and the second redacted is probably a whole sentence+

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:36 am
by sprityo
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:48 pm
ColinIsCool wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:41 pm The read I feel strongest about in my 3 was iaafr, I think. Felt like they were posting a lot but too much noise, not content or hunting. So tell me why I'm wrong.
One, he honestly isn't low content. Once you look past the jokes and at the intent he couples with them, he's honestly fairly solid looking. And this to ane xtent feels like a style thing, wherein this feels like town iaafr to me fairly well.
Could you toss me some of these examples if you havent already posted them?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:39 am
by iaafr
yes spiny had a n0 green on evenstar it was relaly obvious i iso'd spiny n1

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:39 am
by iaafr
evenstar is cleared.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:40 am
by sprityo
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.
Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.
There's only one role i am aware of that effects lynches that we've used before (breaking meta not pending) and that was the self dubbed "forger" role. Otherwise I think it's more so that the info was redacted for game balance purposes

Now it couldve just as easily been "you know that a certain player is town aligned" instead of how it appears, but i digress

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:41 am
by sprityo
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:13 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:09 pm
Evenstar wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:03 pm
Pawn Lelouch wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:22 pm We'll find out what happened there eventually, though we can be aware that the scum janitor is one of the roles left up top.

And I'm interested in how these levels got grouped the way they are. Since it's likely not RNG, the question is if the GMs are controlling it with a clear criteria or if a player has the power to pick who moves down levels and who stays behind.
... is it common for janitors to be able to work on lynches? I don't get where you're getting this "janitor" idea from.
Yeah. Janitors pretty commonly work on lynches, otherwise their utility would be severely hampered. Clearing info from cops + gunsmiths are nice and all, but lynches are where the actual main use of the ability lies imo.

And I thought it was a guaranteed janitor since I saw it was boo, but was too busy finishing up my service learning for the day to look at the actual text closely and see that it strongly hinted mason before it was deleted. So I just saw redacted and kinda auto assumed janitor throughout the night since I believe it was one of the listed possible roles at the beginning and it fits with the info removal.
When I played with the role back on MSPAFA it was always NK only. But then again last day's lynch didn't flip, so... Yeah, I guess you could have a point. Still feels much more likely a mason.
YOU PLAYED ON MSPAFA?! Did you ever play at Chocolate Pi Forums where they moved the mafia threads to?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:42 am
by iaafr
in a normal game evenstar would be indisputedly cleared right now but some people can claim to have bad memory

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:43 am
by iaafr
indisputably* sry

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:44 am
by sprityo
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:27 pm i am forced into wanting to vote the least transparent players who want to kill me

{jack, dom, colin}

everybody else can live

sprityo wanted to kill me out of spite so he can live :D
Spite? maybe

I more so did not like your theory in the silghtest. I still don't in fact. But i assume we are past that

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:44 am
by iaafr
NOPE

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:45 am
by iaafr
all scum players are syndicate

maybe ur syndicate but not scum idk

but evenstar and pawn feel clear to me and radishes still feels better than literally every syndicate member pushing me and like

i dont always omgus everybody scumreading me and you and jack might be town but guys im town and im baffled you cant see it

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:46 am
by iaafr
but pawns evenkeeled and ppl are antagonizing maybe hteyre all town and its pawn and radishes lmfao I DONT KNOW THIS GAMES SO FUCKING WEIRD

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:48 am
by iaafr
but from my point of view as a town player who intends to continue playing i want to kill the people who want to kill me and i just need to pick the scummiest of them

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:49 am
by iaafr
and im not allowed to make it obvious which i think is most likely, due to the rules.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:49 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Reminder to everyone to account for Daylight Saving Time. All game deadlines will reflect the clock being moved back one hour.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:50 am
by sprityo
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:17 am
Epignosis wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:22 pm
iaafr wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:21 pm i mean this game still feels so troll man

thats the last of the whining ill do this phase i promise but man this is a troll ass game right now
Do you know the hosts, JaggedJimmyJay and Sloonei at all?
Seriously tho. I’m the troll host around these parts.
No me :nicenod:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:51 am
by sprityo
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:45 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:40 am
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 12:36 am Is iaafr a civilian or mafia? Why?
Well I’ve read this thread pretty piecemeal so no getting onto me for missing a specific think like you did earlier.

I think he’s scum. I don’t believe he scumread Drago D1. I really don’t believe he’s think Colin/Dom/Jack is the best path to victory if he’s town.

I mean, I’m the kind of guy who wolves trip over themselves trying to mislynch cause I don’t look scary. Iaafr looks like a Jay. Wolves only push Jay to distract him or to mimic townness.

Like why does town iaafr think Dom is scum? Or Colin? Or Nova for that matter?
I refuse to let ALL CAPS / emotional manipulation / "I'm not answering your questions" / YOUR GASLIGHTING ME INTO THINKING / I'm not talking to you but I still am and I'm still here even though I said bye /

set the tone for The Syndicate. We play better here. Do not bring that shit into my house.

I also suspect Colin and Jack. So Colin / iaafr / Jack. Good three. :srsnod:
:ninja:

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:53 am
by sprityo
Epignosis wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:04 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:04 am Creature isn’t here tho.

Boom! Roasted.
I was thinking Dom, who is.
ooooh spicy

tell me about Dom

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:55 am
by sprityo
[mention]Pawn Lelouch[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] You guys around?

It's only 11 am here but thats pretty late stateside

I'm here for discussions

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:56 am
by iaafr
[mention]sprityo[/mention] did you read spiny creatures posts d1

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 2:56 am
by iaafr
do you remember her confidently reading evenstar as easily her top town?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:00 am
by iaafr
she townread me but didnt understand my townread of 112 and then reacted to me removing 112 from locktown organically

she also townread pawn, i think...?

i actually literally dont remembe rwho else she townread or scumread

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:00 am
by iaafr
im so engaged with this game and im getting pushed on stuff like a vote that didnt not lynch scum

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:01 am
by iaafr
10-7 wagons?

pretty comfortable?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:01 am
by iaafr
you ignoring me or something?

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:03 am
by iaafr
btw i thought about the mech of inception

the mafia in this layer have to had lost communication with the mafia in upper layers when they got removed

idk how that information is useful but i feel a sense of accomplishment for thinking of it

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am
by iaafr
im dropping bombshells like evenstar is lock mech town from boo's flip and literally nobody's quoting or reacting to it

what kind of a game is this

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:06 am
by iaafr
not that everybodys had a chance

but of the people who did have a chance

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:07 am
by iaafr
is this some kind of thread control thing

like they gotta push me and keep the thread pushing me

i really dont get why im getting pushed so much

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am
by sprityo
sorry i was watching funny anime videos on youtube

no, i dont remember anything regarding spiny creature/boo in the slightest

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:12 am
by sprityo
I dont see why Evenstar is locktown based off that thing you quoted earlier

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:14 am
by sprityo
i feel really stupid right now

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:14 am
by sprityo
for unrelated reasons, but still

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 3]

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:16 am
by iaafr
i cant quote the actual reason but

boo's flip had a confirmed civ

and spiny really clearly represented evenstar as her unambiguously strongest townread