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Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:17 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
So that they don't have to make the decision on who to kill. Would get blood on their hands, especially if it's someone who's kinda townread by people. They aren't gonna be shooting their partners after all. :P

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:18 pm
by nutella
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:56 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:55 pm Anyway, of the people in the towncore, I'd probably shoot Nutella first? And then of the people who pushed back against the towncore, I'd probably shoot Funny first.
Coincidentally, they're both the two people that shot at me in the Turbo we all played together on MU the other night, lol.
w h y do you keep bringing this up

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:19 pm
by Hyena
nutella wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:18 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:56 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 1:55 pm Anyway, of the people in the towncore, I'd probably shoot Nutella first? And then of the people who pushed back against the towncore, I'd probably shoot Funny first.
Coincidentally, they're both the two people that shot at me in the Turbo we all played together on MU the other night, lol.
w h y do you keep bringing this up
because it's funny, lol

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:19 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
Literally was about to say this

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:20 pm
by nutella
I had already decided on voting nanook this is a stupid argument. I would be happy to get the gun if more people vote for me. Not like it mattered much at that point.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:21 pm
by nutella
Hyena and funnygurl are scum. Boo is the third. Lock it in fellas

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:22 pm
by nutella
Champs spec is making me so good at confident D1 reads lol

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm
by Duskfall
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:17 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
So that they don't have to make the decision on who to kill. Would get blood on their hands, especially if it's someone who's kinda townread by people. They aren't gonna be shooting their partners after all. :P
But no one else is gonna shoot widely townread either, scum getting the gun guarantees a town death, if they shoot in lynch pool its no real loss? Just because scum can kill a town player doesn't mean they are forced to shoot towncore and die next night

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm
by Duskfall
I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:17 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
So that they don't have to make the decision on who to kill. Would get blood on their hands, especially if it's someone who's kinda townread by people. They aren't gonna be shooting their partners after all. :P
But no one else is gonna shoot widely townread either, scum getting the gun guarantees a town death, if they shoot in lynch pool its no real loss? Just because scum can kill a town player doesn't mean they are forced to shoot towncore and die next night
Why wouldn't scum prefer to have town shoot other town though instead of themselves?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:26 pm
by nutella
[VOTE: duskfall] aubergine so hyena isn't in the lead but still equally in favor of nanook

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:27 pm
by nutella
remember we can't end with a tie

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:28 pm
by Duskfall
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:17 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
So that they don't have to make the decision on who to kill. Would get blood on their hands, especially if it's someone who's kinda townread by people. They aren't gonna be shooting their partners after all. :P
But no one else is gonna shoot widely townread either, scum getting the gun guarantees a town death, if they shoot in lynch pool its no real loss? Just because scum can kill a town player doesn't mean they are forced to shoot towncore and die next night
Why wouldn't scum prefer to have town shoot other town though instead of themselves?
Because town can't shoot scum then?

People should always shoot in lynch pool and as long as their shot is reasonable the reads won't change

-If town get the shot they can shoot misread town or correctly read scum
-If scum get the shot they always shoot misread town

So if scum get the gun they can guarentee no scum dies, they don't need to kill the towncore

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:28 pm
by Hyena
Oh yeah, tie rules are different in this game. I'll go to Dusk, too.
[VOTE: Dusk] aubergine

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:30 pm
by Funnygurl555
why are you scumreading me nutella?

i dont like it

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:31 pm
by Duskfall
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:28 pm Oh yeah, tie rules are different in this game. I'll go to Dusk, too.
[VOTE: Dusk] aubergine
Why is voting me, who just said I would lynch you, towards your town win con?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn
Eh having wrong thoughts doesn’t make you Mafia

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:28 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:25 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:17 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:15 pm Why would scum not want the gun?
So that they don't have to make the decision on who to kill. Would get blood on their hands, especially if it's someone who's kinda townread by people. They aren't gonna be shooting their partners after all. :P
But no one else is gonna shoot widely townread either, scum getting the gun guarantees a town death, if they shoot in lynch pool its no real loss? Just because scum can kill a town player doesn't mean they are forced to shoot towncore and die next night
Why wouldn't scum prefer to have town shoot other town though instead of themselves?
Because town can't shoot scum then?

People should always shoot in lynch pool and as long as their shot is reasonable the reads won't change

-If town get the shot they can shoot misread town or correctly read scum
-If scum get the shot they always shoot misread town

So if scum get the gun they can guarentee no scum dies, they don't need to kill the towncore
I don't think it's that simple.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:33 pm
by nutella
Funnygurl555 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:30 pm why are you scumreading me nutella?

i dont like it
I'm not as confident as I'm pretending to be but I like Mac's thoughts

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:33 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:31 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:28 pm Oh yeah, tie rules are different in this game. I'll go to Dusk, too.
[VOTE: Dusk] aubergine
Why is voting me, who just said I would lynch you, towards your town win con?
Because in the end, I do want town to get the gun, and not scum?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:33 pm
by nutella
Also I don't really know how to read you without mikey :P

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
by Duskfall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn
Eh having wrong thoughts doesn’t make you Mafia
Bro (she?) has the worst push on nutella in the world, is that believable?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
by Duskfall
Oops nutella is a he sorry

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
by Duskfall
I mean hyena is a he nutella is a she sorry LOL

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn
Eh having wrong thoughts doesn’t make you Mafia
Bro (she?) has the worst push on nutella in the world, is that believable?
What? How is it a bad push? o.O??

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm
by Duskfall
Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:39 pm
by Hyena
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
You're not actually shooting me, though? Since you just said that town would only shoot in the lynch pool, and I'm not in the lynch pool?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
by Dragomir
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
by Dragomir
Why does Duskfall have the most votes?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm
by Dragomir
[mention]Hyena[/mention] if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:42 pm
by Hyena
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm @Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?
Most likely, yeah.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:43 pm
by Duskfall
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:39 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
You're not actually shooting me, though? Since you just said that town would only shoot in the lynch pool, and I'm not in the lynch pool?
You're definitely in my lynch pool

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:45 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn
Eh having wrong thoughts doesn’t make you Mafia
Bro (she?) has the worst push on nutella in the world, is that believable?
I mean I’ve seen him make some very bad pushes before lol

(Nutella is a she, hyena is a he. I think.)

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:46 pm
by Duskfall
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.
They seek to be trying to care about who's getting the gun now because they are thinking it'd towny to give town the gun

They aren't thinking about, "if I am cleared town, then giving the gun to someone who has suggested shooting me is a terrible idea", which they should be thinking if town

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:47 pm
by Duskfall
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:45 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:34 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:32 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:23 pm I would be voting hyena if this was a normal game rn
Eh having wrong thoughts doesn’t make you Mafia
Bro (she?) has the worst push on nutella in the world, is that believable?
I mean I’ve seen him make some very bad pushes before lol

(Nutella is a she, hyena is a he. I think.)
Oh sad

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:47 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Also we have like 12 hours, not worried about ties yet lol

Dusk is 100% correct that scum *should* want the gun though, it gives them control of two kills instead of one. That’s always scum positive.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:50 pm
by nutella
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.
They seek to be trying to care about who's getting the gun now because they are thinking it'd towny to give town the gun

They aren't thinking about, "if I am cleared town, then giving the gun to someone who has suggested shooting me is a terrible idea", which they should be thinking if town
^ 100% this

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:51 pm
by Hyena
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:47 pm Also we have like 12 hours, not worried about ties yet lol

Dusk is 100% correct that scum *should* want the gun though, it gives them control of two kills instead of one. That’s always scum positive.
Oh wait, lol, I forgot mafia can still make kills in this setup. I keep thinking we're playing something similar to a Purgatory setup, where there are no mafia kills, but you get to send people to hell and heaven on alternating phases. People who get sent to hell are out of the game, and people who are sent to heaven stay in the game not not actively in the thread. The gun mechanic in this game reminded me of the heaven mechanic in that setup because you always wanted to vote for people who you thought were town.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:52 pm
by nutella
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:47 pm Also we have like 12 hours, not worried about ties yet lol

Dusk is 100% correct that scum *should* want the gun though, it gives them control of two kills instead of one. That’s always scum positive.
hm I think we have 7 hours but the poll time looks wrong

[mention]leetic[/mention] the deadline is 10 EDT right? despite the poll end time being later?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm
by Hyena
I thought EoD is tomorrow?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm
by Hyena
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm I thought EoD is tomorrow?
D1 officially began around 10pm last night?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:03 pm
by Dragomir
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:42 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:41 pm @Hyena if you get the gun, will you shoot Nutella?
Most likely, yeah.
Good shit. Everyone, give Hyena the gun.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:05 pm
by Dragomir
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.
They seek to be trying to care about who's getting the gun now because they are thinking it'd towny to give town the gun

They aren't thinking about, "if I am cleared town, then giving the gun to someone who has suggested shooting me is a terrible idea", which they should be thinking if town
And who has voiced their opinion about shooting Hyena that the latter wants to give a gun to?

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:06 pm
by Duskfall
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:05 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:46 pm
Dragomir wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:40 pm
Duskfall wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:36 pm Everything that hyena is saying rn seems to me like what scum would think town would say rather than someone who is town actually thinking towards their wincon
Specify on how his posts give that vibe to you.
They seek to be trying to care about who's getting the gun now because they are thinking it'd towny to give town the gun

They aren't thinking about, "if I am cleared town, then giving the gun to someone who has suggested shooting me is a terrible idea", which they should be thinking if town
And who has voiced their opinion about shooting Hyena that the latter wants to give a gun to?
Me lol

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:11 pm
by nutella
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm I thought EoD is tomorrow?
D1 officially began around 10pm last night?
oh yeah.... so the poll is wrong in a couple ways lol. deadline should be Tuesday 10pm EDT

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:26 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I have to keep up this volume another 20 hours? Balls

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:31 pm
by Funnygurl555
nutella wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:33 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:30 pm why are you scumreading me nutella?

i dont like it
I'm not as confident as I'm pretending to be but I like Mac's thoughts
fair.

i think they're pure but they're also wrong. but i trust that he'll come around

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 3:34 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
If nobody asks me the question I’m expecting before I wake up then I’ll have to ask it myself and pontificate, and nobody wants that

Now I’m gonna take a nap and dream of having a gun to shoot scum with

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:23 pm
by leetic
nutella wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 3:11 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm
Hyena wrote: Mon May 11, 2020 2:54 pm I thought EoD is tomorrow?
D1 officially began around 10pm last night?
oh yeah.... so the poll is wrong in a couple ways lol. deadline should be Tuesday 10pm EDT
Day phases are 48 hours long. The end time of the poll is correct.

Re: Corrupt!? Mafia (D1)

Posted: Mon May 11, 2020 4:25 pm
by leetic
Wait, it is wrong for some reason. I'll have to try and fix that.