Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:30 am
[mention]dunya[/mention] why haven't you solved the game yet?
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Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:46 am
I am personally not a fan of Epi being so focused on post counts while not provided any actual game thoughts
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:01 am
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:01 am
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 6:05 am
Epi's tunneling seems to be coming from a town perspective imo
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 7:52 am
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:09 am
Tunneling is when someone keeps pushing the same person relentlessly not really reconsidering the targets alignment or wanting to switch wagons
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 8:43 am
In what capacity am I focused on post counts other than advising you that you are close to hitting yours?
In what capacity have I failed not to provide any "actual game thoughts?"
Hell, you even responded to this jackrabbit:
In what capacity does any of that serve as evidence that I am mafia?DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:12 pmEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
Dunya - Evil bitch (wouldn't lynch)
Duskfall - Not lynching today
Jackofhearts2005 - Would lynch but would require convincing
JiwonMeganPark - Would lynch
leetic - Should burn
Long Con - Would lynch but would require convincing
MacDougall - Would lynch because that's just a good time right there
Nutella - Not lynching today
TonyStarkPrime - Not lynching today
Why is Jiwon would lynch for you?
Take your time. It's supposed to storm today.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 9:08 am
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:47 am
I know what tunneling is.
What do you mean "coming from a town perspective"? In what way does it seem like that to you exactly?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:58 am
I mean I don't think he does this as scumLong Con wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 10:47 amI know what tunneling is.
What do you mean "coming from a town perspective"? In what way does it seem like that to you exactly?
So it is probably town
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:19 am
i don't think i agree because epi is very cunning as scum. that said, i did see glimpses of town epi in his back and forth with leetic, so he's my lowest priority.
right now i'd say my suspect pool looks like this:
Epi - least suspcious
Mac
LC
nutella
leetic - most suspicious
happy to lynch anywhere in there.
as for there being 9x2, i think it's more likely based on the roles i know (dusk's, that DS is vanilla and likely at least one other civ is too maybe 2 more, + my role), i don't think town is super powered with roles here so 8x3 becomes less likely imo. and the tmi with leetic becomes more likely again.
right now i'd say my suspect pool looks like this:
Epi - least suspcious
Mac
LC
nutella
leetic - most suspicious
happy to lynch anywhere in there.
as for there being 9x2, i think it's more likely based on the roles i know (dusk's, that DS is vanilla and likely at least one other civ is too maybe 2 more, + my role), i don't think town is super powered with roles here so 8x3 becomes less likely imo. and the tmi with leetic becomes more likely again.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:33 am
actually, i might flip LC and Mac there after isoing LC. i don't have any reason to town read him, but i don't feel like scum reading him either, especially if leetic is bad.
he is one of 2 (the other being Tony) that defended leetic tho so that may be worth remembering later on.
he is one of 2 (the other being Tony) that defended leetic tho so that may be worth remembering later on.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:44 am
[mention]JiwonMeganPark[/mention] has kinda disappeared and i'd like to hear more from her on who other than leetic she thinks is bad.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:45 am
[mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] why do you townread jiwon?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:49 am
why would you lynch jiwon?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
Dunya - Evil bitch (wouldn't lynch)
Duskfall - Not lynching today
Jackofhearts2005 - Would lynch but would require convincing
JiwonMeganPark - Would lynch
leetic - Should burn
Long Con - Would lynch but would require convincing
MacDougall - Would lynch because that's just a good time right there
Nutella - Not lynching today
TonyStarkPrime - Not lynching today
i'm interested in opposing views on her; jack thinks she's town, you would lynch her. i thought she came across genuine and townie in a few posts so i put her in my town pile, but i dont like the drop in activity. drop in activity is bad people. you have 55 posts and you should all use them up and make the scum quiver in their boots.
also [mention]MacDougall[/mention] i am solving the game you big bear, so what the hell is this crap?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:56 am
the more i read this, the more i feel it's wolf nutella who jumped on the opportunity to try and defend herself.nutella wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 6:20 pm....wdym
how is that a waste of a post I'm calling you out on a weird jump and bein fun and snarky about it but also I legit believe it applies
the funny thing is, i can see nutella being wolf whether leetic is bad or not.
this isn't even charming-waffle-nutella, this is more of an afterthought on a bad sounding post coverup kinda nutella.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 5:04 pmhmm upon more thought i don't think i do, but my point was really that i suspected you more than leetic by that point -- given dunya's meta point and some of leetic's responses i reconsidered him but suspected you regardless. and now yeah i think you are wolf and leetic isn't but i am still reading the actual content you have now produced so it's not a lock readJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:50 pmShe said I was a wolf even if Leetic is a wolf.dunya wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:47 pmshe didn't say you and leetic are wolves together.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 1:28 pmI don't believe you believe that.
I especially don't believe you believe Leetic and I are wolves together.
I don't believe Nutella believes that's true.
Linki: Because I was watching Hunter x Hunter. Greed Island arc. It's not as good as the Phantom Troupe arc but it's still really good.
nutella hasn't given me any reason to think she's town.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:08 pm
his game theorizing seems genuinely townie, and resonates with me very well. i can see town motive in his thought process, he comes across sincere and unreserved (contrary to nutella, leetic for example). he is giving out contrary opinions, for example not agreeing with me on why leetic/epi can be ww and i actually agree with his reasoning.
and then this post:
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:43 pm I bet the mafia has a recruit but can only recruit certain characters, which would fit within the “apocalyptic naysayers” theme. That balances it somewhat. Maybe it starts at one but then I assume they’ve already had a chance to recruit. I’ll relisten to the record when my power comes back on and see if I can figure anything out.
[to the scum team: recruit me, don’t recruit DS I think he claimed ziggy or something]
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:18 pm
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 amI'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
You've mentioned post counts quite a lot this game and have basically tunneled leetic all game while not really pushing anyone else and when I asked you to describe your read on jiwon you wouldn't. Also your reads list didn't have much reasoning it was just lynch/would not lynch basically so yeah I feel my point stands
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:51 pm
good stuff, @[mention]DS.[/mention] but what does his fixation with post count tell you? and how is it alignment indicative?
you only have 5 more posts, so feel free to wait to respond when you can multiquote. oops, i mentioned post count.
you only have 5 more posts, so feel free to wait to respond when you can multiquote. oops, i mentioned post count.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 11:49 amwhy would you lynch jiwon?Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
Dunya - Evil bitch (wouldn't lynch)
Duskfall - Not lynching today
Jackofhearts2005 - Would lynch but would require convincing
JiwonMeganPark - Would lynch
leetic - Should burn
Long Con - Would lynch but would require convincing
MacDougall - Would lynch because that's just a good time right there
Nutella - Not lynching today
TonyStarkPrime - Not lynching today
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:23 pmNo reason to not to.DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:12 pmEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 10:03 pm DS - Not lynching today (I don't lynch new people Day 1)
Dunya - Evil bitch (wouldn't lynch)
Duskfall - Not lynching today
Jackofhearts2005 - Would lynch but would require convincing
JiwonMeganPark - Would lynch
leetic - Should burn
Long Con - Would lynch but would require convincing
MacDougall - Would lynch because that's just a good time right there
Nutella - Not lynching today
TonyStarkPrime - Not lynching today
Why is Jiwon would lynch for you?
I'm surprised you used a whole post to ask me about that one thing. You're running low, I see.
Not counting the time I asked you why mentioning a post count is relevant (you didn't answer that, by the way), I have mentioned post counts four times. That's four out of 35 posts or 11.4%. Hardly "quite a lot."DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:24 pmEpignosis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:43 amI'll do my best. And if you don't mind it would be cool if you could read through the posts and talk about them. No need to spend all your posts. Just a few would be peachy.JiwonMeganPark wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 12:40 am Hello everyone~
I will be announcing my votes by posting because I'm not a fan of this voting system, would be cool if you guys also did~
You've mentioned post counts quite a lot this game and have basically tunneled leetic all game while not really pushing anyone else and when I asked you to describe your read on jiwon you wouldn't. Also your reads list didn't have much reasoning it was just lynch/would not lynch basically so yeah I feel my point stands
But again I ask:
In what capacity does any of that serve as evidence that I am mafia?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:59 pm
[VOTE:
leetic] aubergine
i gave him a whole day to turn things around, and instead of showing me some town hunger, he laid back and did much of nothing. he poked LC but still did much of nothing with that prod (would actually look bad for LC if leetic is wolf). i feel like knowing what i do about town roles now, it is more likely this is 9vs2, so that adds to the double TMI points against leetic.
his vote on jack is uninspired too; jack clarified his post on leetic "leetic what have you done (to get all these votes)" and leetic is still parked there. no active game solving or need to try and figure things out.
epi: fair enough, but it feels like she has a distinguished spot where you'd lynch her without the need for convincing. what has LC or jack done less than jiwon to you?
i gave him a whole day to turn things around, and instead of showing me some town hunger, he laid back and did much of nothing. he poked LC but still did much of nothing with that prod (would actually look bad for LC if leetic is wolf). i feel like knowing what i do about town roles now, it is more likely this is 9vs2, so that adds to the double TMI points against leetic.
his vote on jack is uninspired too; jack clarified his post on leetic "leetic what have you done (to get all these votes)" and leetic is still parked there. no active game solving or need to try and figure things out.
epi: fair enough, but it feels like she has a distinguished spot where you'd lynch her without the need for convincing. what has LC or jack done less than jiwon to you?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:02 pm
It's a bias. I know more about LC and Jack in general than I do about Jiwon and thus feel I would have a better chance identifying their alignments later than I would Jiwon.dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:59 pm [VOTE: leetic] aubergine
i gave him a whole day to turn things around, and instead of showing me some town hunger, he laid back and did much of nothing. he poked LC but still did much of nothing with that prod (would actually look bad for LC if leetic is wolf). i feel like knowing what i do about town roles now, it is more likely this is 9vs2, so that adds to the double TMI points against leetic.
his vote on jack is uninspired too; jack clarified his post on leetic "leetic what have you done (to get all these votes)" and leetic is still parked there. no active game solving or need to try and figure things out.
epi: fair enough, but it feels like she has a distinguished spot where you'd lynch her without the need for convincing. what has LC or jack done less than jiwon to you?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:05 pm
[VOTE:
DS.] aubergine to avoid ending the Day phase prematurely.
People should say more things.
People should say more things.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:07 pm
[mention]TonyStarkPrime[/mention] if we're not lynching Epi today, who are you second likely to lynch?
[mention]JiwonMeganPark[/mention] perhaps some engagement on current events will be useful.
[mention]Long Con[/mention] do you think Epi is bad?
[mention]leetic[/mention] you've waffled all over the place. from sussing me, then nutella, then jack, then Epi, then LC. give me GTH reads on those 5 players.
[mention]JiwonMeganPark[/mention] perhaps some engagement on current events will be useful.
[mention]Long Con[/mention] do you think Epi is bad?
[mention]leetic[/mention] you've waffled all over the place. from sussing me, then nutella, then jack, then Epi, then LC. give me GTH reads on those 5 players.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:08 pm
It's just more of a "where are the intentions here?" To me. It's like, I asked him a direct question about his read on jiwon and he basically shrugged me off. Post count stuff seems like filler to me
Imo 11.4% of your posts so far being nothing but filler related to how many posts people have IS a lot.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 pm Not counting the time I asked you why mentioning a post count is relevant (you didn't answer that, by the way), I have mentioned post counts four times. That's four out of 35 posts or 11.4%. Hardly "quite a lot."
But again I ask:
In what capacity does any of that serve as evidence that I am mafia?
And mafia looks to get people lynched while flying under the radar and under explaining their reads, providing filler content to make it look like they are doing something more than they are.
You OMGUS voting me rn also is not a good look. You've been pushing Leetic all day but now are hopping off him with only a few hours left in the phase?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:10 pm
Ds give me hammer please
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:11 pm
or epi give me hammer one of you
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:14 pm
it's not really a shrug off though. he said "there's no reason to town read her" - it's a valid excuse. how i play mafia is finding town motive and voice in posts, and if i can't do that with someone then they become suspects. saying someone has don't nothing to earn a town-cred is a valid reason to suspect them imo.
speaking of EOD - there's no actual time stamp on the vote sheet, yikes. what time EST does day end [mention]NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME[/mention] might be worth telling [mention]boo[/mention] as well since we have a site update in a few hours.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:15 pm
[VOTE:
nutella] aubergine
i don't want to hammer. i want to talk stuff.
i don't want to hammer. i want to talk stuff.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:17 pm
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:17 pm
dunya wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:14 pmit's not really a shrug off though. he said "there's no reason to town read her" - it's a valid excuse. how i play mafia is finding town motive and voice in posts, and if i can't do that with someone then they become suspects. saying someone has don't nothing to earn a town-cred is a valid reason to suspect them imo.
speaking of EOD - there's no actual time stamp on the vote sheet, yikes. what time EST does day end @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME might be worth telling @boo as well since we have a site update in a few hours.
++++NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jun 09, 2020 2:48 pm It is now D1! Every player is limited to 55 posts today!
There are 11 players alive, so it will take 6 to hammer. Day ends June 11, 3pm EDT. Posting is allowed to continue until I close the thread.
That's what you think that is?DS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:08 pmIt's just more of a "where are the intentions here?" To me. It's like, I asked him a direct question about his read on jiwon and he basically shrugged me off. Post count stuff seems like filler to me
Imo 11.4% of your posts so far being nothing but filler related to how many posts people have IS a lot.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 pm Not counting the time I asked you why mentioning a post count is relevant (you didn't answer that, by the way), I have mentioned post counts four times. That's four out of 35 posts or 11.4%. Hardly "quite a lot."
But again I ask:
In what capacity does any of that serve as evidence that I am mafia?
And mafia looks to get people lynched while flying under the radar and under explaining their reads, providing filler content to make it look like they are doing something more than they are.
You OMGUS voting me rn also is not a good look. You've been pushing Leetic all day but now are hopping off him with only a few hours left in the phase?
I already said I'm not lynching you Day 1, chuckles.
Do you think I'll suddenly be electrocuted or have a piano fall on my head between now and 3pm EST? Do you in all honesty believe that I am doing anything beyond what I said my intention was for voting you?
If this is not my intention, and I have already stated I have no intention of advocating for your lynch Day 1, then just what is my intention right now?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:17 pm
Being fully honst I have done very little solving this game
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:18 pm
I'm back~
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:19 pm
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:21 pm
epi never lynches people he's never played with on day 1. it's a vote move to prevent a hammer. we have an hour and 40mins left and discussion is getting spicy.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:21 pm
Perhaps to wind up off the final wagon at end of day and get me to waste all my posts in response to you voting me for no reason?
Gg, well played lmfao
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:22 pm
let's all hot potato nutella tho. i'm down with that. 
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:22 pm
You know i found out an hour ago ziggy stardust is not the name of an actual person
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:26 pm
[mention]DS.[/mention] why do you town read nutella?
this question goes for anyone tbh.
this question goes for anyone tbh.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:35 pm
Why are you town? You can't just say you are town and except people to unvote you, that's borderline narcisstic.
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Let's see posts at bottom
DS. wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2020 6:48 pm Gonna nip this in the bud, no I am not ziggy or a pr, I actually tried to clear myself based off of wording in what I assumed was a cut and pasted vanilla role pm
That's what
, sorry. Flavor! Was. With the flavor being vanilla
Just trying to not get modkilled so I didn't post it exactly lol
Anyone who has seen me play knows that I will try to auto clear myself as town any way possible
But dusk said you do that as both alignments... Why are you town?
I agree but I'm not sure on Jack and DS. They are my face yellow to me.
What tissue is this?
Mac seems unworky and not leading, I would DKDK him. leetic also disappeared but I think I should DKDK Mac. [VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm
I remember someone (dünya?) mentioning majority only DKDK but there are also plurality? Why would you think that~?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:40 pm
that jowin post pinged me a little
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:41 pm
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:42 pm
[VOTE:
leetic] aubergine
Someone besides dunya and me removed his or her vote from leetic. I wonder why.
Someone besides dunya and me removed his or her vote from leetic. I wonder why.
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:43 pm
it was slightly scummy, why do you think that is?
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:44 pm
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pm
If you can tell me why i think it is scummy it would no longer be scummy
Re: Ziggy Stardust Mafia
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:45 pm
sorry boat man but this is simply a bad readDS. wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 1:08 pmIt's just more of a "where are the intentions here?" To me. It's like, I asked him a direct question about his read on jiwon and he basically shrugged me off. Post count stuff seems like filler to me
Imo 11.4% of your posts so far being nothing but filler related to how many posts people have IS a lot.Epignosis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 11, 2020 12:54 pm Not counting the time I asked you why mentioning a post count is relevant (you didn't answer that, by the way), I have mentioned post counts four times. That's four out of 35 posts or 11.4%. Hardly "quite a lot."
But again I ask:
In what capacity does any of that serve as evidence that I am mafia?
And mafia looks to get people lynched while flying under the radar and under explaining their reads, providing filler content to make it look like they are doing something more than they are.
You OMGUS voting me rn also is not a good look. You've been pushing Leetic all day but now are hopping off him with only a few hours left in the phase?