The Syndicate

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 am @Hally how do you distinguish among the others that have claimed miller when you decide Tony seems okay and the others are joking?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:33 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:05 am @Hally how do you distinguish among the others that have claimed miller when you decide Tony seems okay and the others are joking?

um, idk? fg’s and nanook’s looked like jokes to me but tony seemed like he intended his to be serious

he had that thing about “it’s conditional” which i don’t get really (how can a miller be conditional? conditional on what?) but seemed serious. also his reaction to wisp voting him for “trying to discredit hally’s claim” where he was like “no im trying to do the opposite” seemed legit?

like idk, just the way he’s gone about it seems like he intends the claim to be taken seriously whereas nanook and fg do not. whether that makes tony’s claim real is another thing but im not sure why he’d think being the second one to claim miller would be a good idea as scum

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:35 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep

I'd be interested to know your real reads

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:43 am atm i lean town on epi, jay, wisp, daisy and tony. maybe maybe sabie but idk

everyone else who’s posted is meh to me

nanook actively rubs me wrong but i don’t think i know how to read him. he has a different energy than in space invaders though and it’s skeeving me out a bit. not sure how to articulate, not sure it’s even AI, idk

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:44 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:43 am atm i lean town on epi, jay, wisp, daisy and tony. maybe maybe sabie but idk

everyone else who’s posted is meh to me

nanook actively rubs me wrong but i don’t think i know how to read him. he has a different energy than in space invaders though and it’s skeeving me out a bit. not sure how to articulate, not sure it’s even AI, idk

Yeah, well, you’ll excuse me if I entirely disregard your ability to read me even a little bit after you scumread me in space invaders for not playing how you wanted me to

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:43 am atm i lean town on epi, jay, wisp, daisy and tony. maybe maybe sabie but idk

everyone else who’s posted is meh to me

nanook actively rubs me wrong but i don’t think i know how to read him. he has a different energy than in space invaders though and it’s skeeving me out a bit. not sure how to articulate, not sure it’s even AI, idk

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:48 am i will say though, for someone that claims to not care how people read you, you... seem to care quite a bit from how you react to suspiscion

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am I also dislike the “lol nanook does nothing” narrative that people push sometimes, in game and out, it’s fucking annoying and not generally true.

Spacedaisy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:51 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:43 am atm i lean town on epi, jay, wisp, daisy and tony. maybe maybe sabie but idk

everyone else who’s posted is meh to me

nanook actively rubs me wrong but i don’t think i know how to read him. he has a different energy than in space invaders though and it’s skeeving me out a bit. not sure how to articulate, not sure it’s even AI, idk

My gut is reading Sabie as civ atm, but I don't have a good reason for it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:53 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am I also dislike the “lol nanook does nothing” narrative that people push sometimes, in game and out, it’s fucking annoying and not generally true.

Is this a read you've seen in this game yet? I don't mean suggest it hasn't happened; I am literally asking.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:52 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:48 am i will say though, for someone that claims to not care how people read you, you... seem to care quite a bit from how you react to suspiscion

I don’t recall claiming I don’t care how people read me?

I broadly don’t react to “prodding to do something” votes, but I do get irritated sometimes when people have bad reads on me for certain reasons. Chief amongst those reasons is what amounts to “I don’t like how you play so you must be mafia,” it’s very irritating. I’m genuinely not that hard to read most games.

I also dislike the “lol nanook does nothing” narrative that people push sometimes, in game and out, it’s fucking annoying and not generally true.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:02 am nanook i think the phrase you’re looking for is “town lean”

It’s considerably stronger

To rephrase....

I saw town indicative behavior from Epi. Epi is good enough to fake that behavior over a short amount of time. If he’s town, the behavior will continue. If he’s mafia, it won’t. So, he’s probably clear, but not 100% clear. Thus, soft locked

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:04 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:04 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:02 am nanook i think the phrase you’re looking for is “town lean”

It’s considerably stronger

To rephrase....

I saw town indicative behavior from Epi. Epi is good enough to fake that behavior over a short amount of time. If he’s town, the behavior will continue. If he’s mafia, it won’t. So, he’s probably clear, but not 100% clear. Thus, soft locked

What makes you think Epi isn't good enough to fake that behavior over a longer period of time?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

Did this last game too

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:07 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

Did this last game too

I skimmed over your ISO last game (ctrl+f'd "epi" and "lock") and found nothing. Can you point me to the post?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am I hard claim miller too by the way. Not a joke claim. I'm serious.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:09 am Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:12 am @TonyStarkPrime

I'm sick of watching you suffer tragic losses. If you're a civilian, please do me a favor and make it as plain to me as possible. You don't have to play at the level of Game 7 if you don't have that in you right now, but please try to show me those goods. I think you're reasonably readable as long as you want to be.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:08 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:07 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:02 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:01 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:49 pm Epi soft locked as town imo

nice pocket nanook

Did this last game too

I skimmed over your ISO last game (ctrl+f'd "epi" and "lock") and found nothing. Can you point me to the post?

Idk somewhere D1 I think, search for Epi

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:10 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:09 am Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

Loose feeling entrance, scum are maybe a bit less likely to jokingly claim miller imo

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:11 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:12 am @TonyStarkPrime

I'm sick of watching you suffer tragic losses. If you're a civilian, please do me a favor and make it as plain to me as possible. You don't have to play at the level of Game 7 if you don't have that in you right now, but please try to show me those goods. I think you're reasonably readable as long as you want to be.

Has TSP done anything to make you react like this?

This post confuses me greatliy

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:14 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:10 am

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:09 am Nanook, whaddya like about Funnygurl?

Loose feeling entrance, scum are maybe a bit less likely to jokingly claim miller imo

She does this every game regardless of alignment. I've played a few games with her and I think she's null.

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

elaborate?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep

If I hadn't just finished the Space Invaders game with you I'd have voted you for this

Having fun is good but potatoing for the first three days hurts town and I ask you not to have your fun at the expense of others. Unless you're scum in which case potato away

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am #269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:30 am Fwiw I have a couple real reads

And will otherwise be playing entirely to have fun cause I’ve had too many less than fun games recently and I refuse to be made to take this one seriously until, like, D4

Put me in the towncore and I’ll sheep

If I hadn't just finished the Space Invaders game with you I'd have voted you for this

Having fun is good but potatoing for the first three days hurts town and I ask you not to have your fun at the expense of others. Unless you're scum in which case potato away

Ok, how have I potatoed

I have the start of a good towncore this game

Last game I was on scum literally every day I was alive

So throw insults if you want but I’m still good at the game, I just approach it differently

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:23 am

Hally wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:19 am

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:16 am Wisp's push on nanook is really bad and JJJ's #269 and #270 are really bad.

[VOTE: JaggedJimmyJay] aubergine

elaborate?

It's unclear to me why Wisp is pushing nanook for not doing anything when plenty of other people haven't done anything either and it's well within standard nanook behavior to not do much, in the first ten pages of the game especially. Also even if you disregard that, nanook stating a soft lock town on Epi was probably more content than many other people in the game anyway.

#269 and #270 had really high levels of "look at me, I'm so town!" energy, which I generally associate with mafia. This is because mafia tends to be much more concerned with how they look to the rest of the town than a townie, and will be actively trying to make themselves look as town as possible. Of course town also has an incentive to try to appear as townie as possible but I think crafting a post specifically to try to exude that kind of energy is >rand mafia. The random jab at funnygurl felt really out of place as well.