The Syndicate

(is mp pocketing me. asking for a friend)

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:14 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:07 pm So many of Hyena's thoughts are hedgey and I have no clue what to do with it.

im getting confused myself. the cayvie read especially kinda feels like forcing content because he says cayvie is town but then doesn’t actually say anything in the paragraph about why. it’s all just fence sitting

maybe mist knows if this kind of waffling is typical for hyena

I definitely would appreciate other perspectives on it myself.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:15 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:07 pm Hally, I can trust you, right? Please.

yes! but can i trust you? dun dun dun!!

Absolutely.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:17 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:16 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:10 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:04 pm Not getting to meet any of my students face to face, for as much as it's 100% the right decision, is a major bummer that I'm not sure I'll ever get used to.

oh rip, yea it must be hard teaching remotely. i actually studied education in college! what do you teach?

It definitely has been a challenge. Thankfully I taught over the summer (even though 5-week virtual teaching was hellish tbh it gave me a lot of good experience), so between that and the second part of Spring semester, I at least had data and feedback to work off of, and I think I'm doing the best I can given the circumstances. I basically am teaching hybrid now, so I record videos in roughly 30-minute segments or less and I generally post them ahead of time, and then during class I'll hold Q&A-type sessions in Zoom. It seems to be working pretty well, or at least as well as it can given there's no remotely perfect solution to various obstacles.

I teach Accounting, hahaha. Right now it's Accounting Information Systems specifically. Fun, right? Hehe.

That's so cool! I actually briefly considered Education because I really wanted to teach, but then I pivoted to Accounting because I found it intriguing, I was good at it, and I liked math and analyzing but I didn't want to go too theoretical and then later found out accounting was much less math and more a bunch of framework application and I still really liked it. During undergrad I figured I would just teach later when I retired or something? But I felt the itch still, and I considered PhD programs after talking to one of my Master's professors about why he really enjoyed being in academia. Despite the PhD program being a net negative on my mental health it was soooo worth it.

oh gosh, i could never do accounting. i don’t have a mathematical mind at all

Excel does the math for you!

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:18 pm (is mp pocketing me. asking for a friend)

Yes, I am. I pocket people all the time as town. I thrive off of working with someone.

I trust Hally, don't care, they can take me to F3 so I can re-evaluate and shoot them if they're really scum. glgl

One town read down at least.

aw this is so cute. sc kept being all like “hally you would love playing with mp shes like you.” i feel the love

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:22 pm I trust Hally, don't care, they can take me to F3 so I can re-evaluate and shoot them if they're really scum. glgl

One town read down at least.

i concur!

mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

actually maybe i shouldn’t tr mp just for the lurve, but i wanna anyway. im smitten

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:23 pm aw this is so cute. sc kept being all like “hally you would love playing with mp shes like you.” i feel the love

Absolutely mutual! Hehe.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.

idk im gonna assume he’s ic unless someone cc’s

I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.

idk im gonna assume he’s ic unless someone cc’s

Oh got it, I thought you had a behavioral read. My gut likes him for some reason that I'm consciously unaware of, but that's all I have.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

I don't even know what my point is here, I just was thinking about how I was struggling to wrap my head around Hyena and then it somehow devolved into this thought. Funnily enough I'm not sure Hyena is that sort of player because he's more likely self-resolving?

This was a lot of fun already! I really can't wait to get to play with every single one of you more. I should at least take a slight to moderate break, but I'll be back whenever I can later tonight I'm thinking. I'm going to try to pick apart things more upon my return.

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:37 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:32 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:29 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:26 pm mist, tony, mp town

sabie, sc null

cayvie, hyena hmmm

Talk to me about Tony if you don't mind.

idk im gonna assume he’s ic unless someone cc’s

Oh got it, I thought you had a behavioral read. My gut likes him for some reason that I'm consciously unaware of, but that's all I have.

tbh he does also vibe like his town self afaik, but his placement on my list is really more because of the claim

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:38 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

I don't even know what my point is here, I just was thinking about how I was struggling to wrap my head around Hyena and then it somehow devolved into this thought. Funnily enough I'm not sure Hyena is that sort of player because he's more likely self-resolving?

Also please know that this is obviously based on my perception, so I mean no offense or misunderstandings or anything -- it's entirely possible that I have the wrong one? Especially since I haven't played with a lot of you much. But anyway. Be back soon!

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:45 pm oh ig i identify with pansexual too. idk i’ve heard ppl say bi and pan are actually the same because bi means attraction to two or more genders, not just the two binary genders. but then other ppl think pan should be it’s own thing. so ig im bi or pan depending on which definition for bi one uses

I typically say bisexual but either is a fine description for me.

Sorry today has been a really long difficult day. 12 hour work day 2 support groups in one day and some unexpected crises. Just haven't had the chance to be here. So this ends tomorrow at 8 pm not 5 am on Saturday correct?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:40 pm This was a lot of fun already! I really can't wait to get to play with every single one of you more. I should at least take a slight to moderate break, but I'll be back whenever I can later tonight I'm thinking. I'm going to try to pick apart things more upon my return.

Yeah I think it must be at least like 5 years since I've played a game with you nice to see you again!

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:47 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 6:45 pm oh ig i identify with pansexual too. idk i’ve heard ppl say bi and pan are actually the same because bi means attraction to two or more genders, not just the two binary genders. but then other ppl think pan should be it’s own thing. so ig im bi or pan depending on which definition for bi one uses

I typically say bisexual but either is a fine description for me.

Sorry today has been a really long difficult day. 12 hour work day 2 support groups in one day and some unexpected crises. Just haven't had the chance to be here. So this ends tomorrow at 8 pm not 5 am on Saturday correct?

aw sorry you had a rough day

days are 72 hrs so i think d1 ends 8pm saturday?

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

i don't know what this says about me/us

sabie! hii

thinkin mp and cayvie

what inspires that thought, tony?

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm thinkin mp and cayvie

why?

btw i dont think a hally/hyena pairing is actually bearing out

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:04 pm btw i dont think a hally/hyena pairing is actually bearing out

what are your reads on us now?

idk. hyena/??

like hyena acted real weird over the rest of the day. im not the first to mention all the hedging but i noticed it too

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:10 pm idk. hyena/??

like hyena acted real weird over the rest of the day. im not the first to mention all the hedging but i noticed it too

any thoughts on non-hyena ppl?

hyena being weird probably means pr

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:14 pm hyena being weird probably means pr

why is that more likely than him being scum?

there's a scum pr

oh true

but he wasn’t in your scum team guess

no but things change

Hiii this day phase ends at 8pm saturday eastern US time yes?

I was at work for way longer than I expected and don't have time to catch up tonight

i will be free to read and play tomorrow night and for some of the next day

apologies, i really do want to play with you all and promise to do that <3

Scirrus wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:40 pm Hiii this day phase ends at 8pm saturday eastern US time yes?

I was at work for way longer than I expected and don't have time to catch up tonight

i will be free to read and play tomorrow night and for some of the next day

apologies, i really do want to play with you all and promise to do that <3

yes i think that’s correct! see you then

hi

i probably won't be around tonight, i have a lot of work to do for tomorrow and my procrastination is dragging me elsewhere

see y'all tomorrow

sabie12 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:49 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:40 pm This was a lot of fun already! I really can't wait to get to play with every single one of you more. I should at least take a slight to moderate break, but I'll be back whenever I can later tonight I'm thinking. I'm going to try to pick apart things more upon my return.

Yeah I think it must be at least like 5 years since I've played a game with you nice to see you again!

Yeah, wow, I guess so. Time flies for sure. Likewise!

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:51 pm

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:35 pm I have no idea if this makes any sense, but it's intriguing to me that this game features players that would in enough games probably be a contender for pivotal read (if you were looking at the player list and asked yourself on D1, which player do you think will be incredibly important to solve the game, sort of like how in politics the tipping state is the state that determines the result of the election, a pivotal read would determine the result of the game... or something similar?) -- anyway, I think that Mist, cayvie, Scirrus, and sabie may all fit this definition to varying degrees.

i don't know what this says about me/us

I'm not sure it says anything. I was just trying to consider the gamestate and why I felt like there was/is a significant number of players that fall into this sort of thing and follow the train of thought somewhere.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:57 pm thinkin mp and cayvie

That would actually be a lot of fun.

I need to spend some more time in cayvie's head actually. I feel relatively confident about my ability to read her comparatively.

[VOTE: SCIRRUS] aubergine

Now we have three wagons at two a piece.

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:10 pm idk. hyena/??

like hyena acted real weird over the rest of the day. im not the first to mention all the hedging but i noticed it too

Why does him acting weird make you think scum, like... can you expand on the A --> B --> C part of this, where A is Hyena = acted real weird and C is naming Hyena on your scum team. What is B?

Hey so I used that Pokemon Picker because I honestly didn't really know what my top X pokemon were! Hehe.

Top 10: Toxapex, Wobbuffet, Falinks, Espeon, Magneton, Exeggutor, Porygon, Tangela, Cursola, and Abomasnow

Top 20: Toxapex, Wobbuffet, Falinks, Espeon, Magneton, Exeggutor, Porygon, Tangela, Cursola, Abomasnow, Sableye, Claydol, Oddish, Crustle, Salazzle, Golisopod, Starmie, Froslass, Vikavolt, and Chandelure

M Plus 7 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:00 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm hyena, jic you missed it, i asked what your actual reads are if you have any

Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).

I seem to remember you getting to action more quickly before. Why are you taking it slowly here?

Also, I think you're right, it must have been that game! Hahaha that's the only game I've been wolf here since my return and it wasn't even my original rand because of the zombie sub-in. Gosh that feels like ages ago, doesn't it?

Yeah, I usually try to get to action as quickly as I can, but a couple of factors in game are stopping me from doing so at the moment. The two main ones are 1. I haven't had a chance to interact with everyone yet, which means I don't have a complete picture of the game yet, and 2. the small size of this game, which is making me feel like I have to be more accurate with my reads early on since we could be in LYLO as soon as tomorrow.

For #1, I feel like the only people I really have thorough interactions with is Hally (who I've had the most interaction with), Cayvie (who I haven't directly interacted with yet), and Mist (who I don't need as much interaction with since I've got a lot of experience with her). Outside my interactions, the only heavy interacting between two people that I know that's happening without rereading the thread is between you and Hally. What I'd like to see is more interactions between people I haven't seen interact yet. Of the people I named above, I'd really like to see you and Mist interact right now, because I don't know how you two as a pair fit into this whole game just yet.

Even if those interactions did occur though, that still leaves Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie, who I've got pretty much nothing on? Wanna know why I'm fencesitting on the people I've made genuine reads on so far? Because I don't know how Tony, Scirrus, and Sabie are going to fit into the whole equation yet. Everyone outside of those three could be town for all I know. Thus, based on the incomplete picture that I've got right now, I'm just taking guesses right now.

How #2 plays into this though is that because of the low number of players and the number of yeets/night kills/vig shots that we all potentially have this game, I feel more nervous about sticking to my guns because I don't think I can afford to be wrong as often as I usually can. In a normal 9+ player game, we at least have two days where we can miss on hitting scum without losing. That's not the case here. I feel like we have to make sure we hit mafia either today, tonight (with a vig shot), or tomorrow. If anything, I think the low number of players makes me more nervous about the game than the flipless mechanic.

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 8:01 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:57 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2020 7:53 pm hyena, jic you missed it, i asked what your actual reads are if you have any

Oh, I haven't started generating any reads yet. I'm still, like, figuring out people. I like you and Mist though. Probably you a little more since Mist hasn't really done anything AI yet from my perspective (sorry, Mist ;-;).

what do you like about me? and why do you like mist if you say she hasn’t done anything AI yet?

Good vibes.