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Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:35 pm
by Long Con
Trustworthy Liberal had voiced the same concern Long Con had been feeling: that the lack of concern over the hardclaim made ts account's mason claim - and their insistence upon it - seem very thin. What was the point of it? Alison's hardclaim had changed the game from the outset, and upon reflection, was becoming increasingly doubtful.

Was it paranoia that led Long Con to begin to doubt Alison's claim? Was tutuu merely a civilian pawn in a well-planned game?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:36 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:32 pm tutuu scum lean
nutella null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
Alison town lean
ts account mason
Funnygurl555 mason
Marmot scum lean
MartinGG99 town lean
DrWilgy null
Long Con scum lean
Enrique null
Trustworthy Liberal null
falcon45ca null
Those are atleast something to base some stuff off.
Curious mainly on the LC read curious why you thought that if you know?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:36 pm
by falcon45ca
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:00 pm TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?
when did I shade TL
I'm going off what she said about you, "Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world"

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:37 pm
by ts account
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:36 pm
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:16 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:00 pm TL giving GTH reads to start, eh? Cool. Also note that her scum leans consists solely of 2 players who've shaded her. No scum reads on anyone who hasn't sussed ya TL? Not even 1?
when did I shade TL
I'm going off what she said about you, "Don't like their comment of i claimed and now i get to coast never true and i feel is less likely to come from a town in any world"
well I don't see how that's me sussing them...

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:38 pm
by nutella
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:32 pm tutuu scum lean
nutella null
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME null
Alison town lean
ts account mason
Funnygurl555 mason
Marmot scum lean
MartinGG99 town lean
DrWilgy null
Long Con scum lean
Enrique null
Trustworthy Liberal null
falcon45ca null
gross nulls are gross

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:38 pm
by ts account
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:36 pm
Those are atleast something to base some stuff off.
Curious mainly on the LC read curious why you thought that if you know?
gimmicks like what long con is doing are usually scum tells


nutella fam it's day 1 I shouldn't have to have reads on everyone

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:40 pm
by Alison
Long Con wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:35 pm Trustworthy Liberal had voiced the same concern Long Con had been feeling: that the lack of concern over the hardclaim made ts account's mason claim - and their insistence upon it - seem very thin. What was the point of it? Alison's hardclaim had changed the game from the outset, and upon reflection, was becoming increasingly doubtful.

Was it paranoia that led Long Con to begin to doubt Alison's claim? Was tutuu merely a civilian pawn in a well-planned game?
I hardclaimed the first post I made, my mason buddy corroborated & hardclaimed the first post she made, and every other competing mason claim is either obviously a joke or has been disproven (like ts account's).

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:41 pm
by Alison
I'm going to sleep and leaving my vote here. Nothing ts has done or said has made me change my mind on them. I know for a fact that they aren't the mason and the fact that they're still clinging to their claim so late in the day, with so much pressure on them, makes this look like a legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:45 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 am There’s like four of us already outed

Scum probably won’t kill me cause they think I’m bluffing but little do they know I’m incapable of rolling mason without immediately claiming it
What do you do when you roll mafia though?
Usually bitch about rolling mafia in scum chat and half the time I claim mafia in the thread

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:46 pm
by ts account
Alison wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:41 pm I'm going to sleep and leaving my vote here. Nothing ts has done or said has made me change my mind on them. I know for a fact that they aren't the mason and the fact that they're still clinging to their claim so late in the day, with so much pressure on them, makes this look like a legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming.
you think you're so good at this game doncha

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:54 pm
by ts account
might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:58 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I hate voting for TL 😭 but I don’t wanna kill TS either so

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:59 pm
by ts account
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:58 pm I hate voting for TL 😭 but I don’t wanna kill TS either so
There is
Another

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:01 pm
by Long Con
"A legitimate attempt at fakeclaiming," she said, her tone making it clear that she would brook no argument. And yet, ts account had not done the most obvious thing that the "true mason" would do: cry foul against the original claimants!

Did this fact make ts more or less likely to be a wolf? Or is Alison the wolf for calling it legitimate when it was missing a key factor?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:01 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:58 pm I hate voting for TL 😭 but I don’t wanna kill TS either so
But who do you suspect cause i would rather vote Falcon or ts today

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:02 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
also 4 none voters with only 4 hours left in the day

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm
by ts account
TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:54 pm might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk
Well your original plan of "playing" seemingly was to rely on a single plan of being afk with an unmentioned vote until someone other than you mentions it

Which could've gone unnoticed for the entirety of D1 by people like me

As much as you think its obvious that wasn't a real vote I honestly wish the same level of thought could've been given to that plan to see its possible faults.

Presuming you're town ofc.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry
Your saying the 3 wofls are in my 4 town reads?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:05 pm
by Marmot
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:45 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:56 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:47 am There’s like four of us already outed

Scum probably won’t kill me cause they think I’m bluffing but little do they know I’m incapable of rolling mason without immediately claiming it
What do you do when you roll mafia though?
Usually bitch about rolling mafia in scum chat and half the time I claim mafia in the thread
Gotch, so I should probably suss you since you're complaining about your role in chat.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:06 pm
by MartinGG99
IMO I would not like to see a TL elimination today, at the very least.

I don't know if I should be giving TS a pass, but what I do know is that for now I think TL is towny enough from my point of view to not eliminate on D1.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:06 pm
by ts account
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:54 pm might just say screw this game and let it happen honestly, not my fault people decide to kill me for playing, should have just stayed afk
Well your original plan of "playing" seemingly was to rely on a single plan of being afk with an unmentioned vote until someone other than you mentions it

Which could've gone unnoticed for the entirety of D1 by people like me

As much as you think its obvious that wasn't a real vote I honestly wish the same level of thought could've been given to that plan to see its possible faults.

Presuming you're town ofc.
I'm not certain that an unannounced vote on my partner and friend should be taken as seriously as it was
the whole thing is just ridiculous to me

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:07 pm
by ts account
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:04 pm TL most if not all of the wolves are in your town reads
I'm sorry
Your saying the 3 wofls are in my 4 town reads?
I'm looking at 2 rn, long con + tutu
falcon might be a wolf but I think inverting your reads list is a better idea than running with it

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm
by nutella
[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:10 pm
by Marmot
I just finished a webinar and am making risotto but I'm here now.

Also, my vote will prooooobably switch.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:10 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:01 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:58 pm I hate voting for TL 😭 but I don’t wanna kill TS either so
But who do you suspect cause i would rather vote Falcon or ts today
Obviously not TS lol

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:13 pm
by Marmot
I stand by what I said earlier, we shouldn't vote off someone who's claimed mason at this point. That includes ts (and by association fg).

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm
by tutuu
alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm
by tutuu
didnt read lol

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:16 pm
by ts account
this is so cringe

I'd rather just die at this point, town doesn't deserve to win

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:18 pm
by Marmot
tutuu wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine
You should vote of your own volition, not on your secret cha'ts account. :ninja:

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:19 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
tutuu wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:15 pm alison kept nagging me to vote okay FINE ALISON RELAX ALREADY

[VOTE: ts account] aubergine
Also this is super bad if TS flips mason tutuu should be immediatly yeeted

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
by MartinGG99
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 pm I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.
Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine
Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
by ts account
tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 pm I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.
Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.
No in general your posts this page has been okay i mean the wagons went

3 TS
4 Trusty

to

5 TS
2Trusty

with very little progression and both tutuu and nutella not giving reasons for the switch

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 pm
by Marmot
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine
Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?
I'm not defending ts, so much as saying that they're not an optimal Day 1 vote.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:22 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons
While legit worst case we go 1 for 1 there for you and them.
As the admited in that post to have communication with alison

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:23 pm
by MartinGG99
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons
tbh if you flip mason then Alison + Tutuu (namely Alison) get a lot of heat on them for pressing their claim against yours

I would imagine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:24 pm
by ts account
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:22 pm
ts account wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm tutuu is laughing inside because a townie claimed them as their mason partner and now gets to kill both masons
While legit worst case we go 1 for 1 there for you and them.
As the admited in that post to have communication with alison
that's... not a statement you should be taking at face value

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:24 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
Marmot wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:09 pm [VOTE: ts account] aubergine
Can you go more into this?
Why am i no longer a good vote?
Why is TS a good vote now?

Whats your thoughts on Nanook and Marmot defending TS?
I'm not defending ts, so much as saying that they're not an optimal Day 1 vote.
Still will count that as a soft defend cause it is.
If not ts who are your two prefored wagons?

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:25 pm
by Trustworthy Liberal
As martian said they said it in that way for a reason either they are the mason pair or tutuu is using the mason claim as an reason to not justify a vote.

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:26 pm
by MartinGG99
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:21 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:20 pm
Trustworthy Liberal wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:17 pm I don't like how this page has desolved honestly.
Okay, I'll admit I may have been unfairly condescending at one point or another.

I do have an issue with being that way sometimes, though I do try to work on not doing that in the future.
No in general your posts this page has been okay i mean the wagons went

3 TS
4 Trusty

to

5 TS
2Trusty

with very little progression and both tutuu and nutella not giving reasons for the switch
That is true.

However I do believe Nutella has given past, more recent comments, prior to the vote post that align with that vote in context.

Example:
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:28 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:27 pm Fake claims that are meant for cover generally don't generate this kind of statement imo:

"I shouldn't really need to contribute when I'm claimed PR"
this

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:27 pm
by tutuu
ok i changed my mind i shall not assist in attempting to kill u ts account

consider urself lucky and bow down before my mercifulness and magnamoniousness. if u do not show your due respect there will be severe consequences

[VOTE: lib] aubergine

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:27 pm
by tutuu
nutella mafia she rly needs to die trust me

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:28 pm
by tutuu
still havent read, lmao!!!

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:29 pm
by tutuu
i am an expert nutella reader i have never been wrong on her and always been right on her shes mafia here trust me

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:31 pm
by tutuu
nutella wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:11 pm hot take marmot is town here
i agree but cuz im town and im smart and nutella cheated here

Re: Making Friends and Enemies - Day 1

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:31 pm
by Marmot
tutuu wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:28 pm still havent read, lmao!!!
tutuu wrote: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:29 pm i am an expert nutella reader i have never been wrong on her and always been right on her shes mafia here trust me
:haha: