The Syndicate

weh

I don't normally use phrases like "hand the mafia the game on a silver platter" but...

I mean in my defense, thisIS a Bastard game. If there were a time to try a tie. But okay. so far from my POV this game has been very tame. Lots of silly post, but like not much with a very clear agenda.


Maybe this the game with no mafia?

Chuck claiming n0 peak here is really weird we have to acknowledge that. Why on gods green earth would you do that unless it happened?

And if no one believes that it happened, why not.

Given I don’t because again bastards game, but like if that was a lie what does that even mean?

Basically, @speedchuck wtf bro

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:44 pmMy role told me to fake a red peek I'm pretty sure. I have no idea who scum.

My role told me two things: jack and shit. How come yours sounds like some sketchy party?

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:36 pm Chuck claiming n0 peak here is really weird we have to acknowledge that. Why on gods green earth would you do that unless it happened?

And if no one believes that it happened, why not.

Given I don’t because again bastards game, but like if that was a lie what does that even mean?

Basically, @speedchuck wtf bro

My role told me to fake a red peek. Duh.

ooh I got ninja'd.

My role is literally a fake red peek. Gerrofff wit' your shade

I was wanting marmot blood last night. wish i could've been presnt to push things harder.:/

dont understand the point of speed chuck's intentionally tieing the wagon up. it garentees that if there is single town between esooa, and marmot, that the townie dies, and mafia lives.
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Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:52 pm Gut read: ties aren’t resolved by mafia. I’m cool where things are I think

sounds more like something paranoid town thinks to say then mafia. THe follow up is also really interesting too w/ made saying the mod could've lied in the start up info and ties werent decided by mafia. I understand the possible scum motive behind saying it, but its just so over the top i feel it comes from town.

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Marmot wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:19 pm Honestly, I'm expecting something wild and crazy to happen since this game is possibly bastard, and it hasn't happened yet, so I haven't found the drive to do anything yet.

But you can yeet me, Idc, I'm just a voluntary troll anyway.

gutsy, but i dont think i buy the act

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TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:59 pm

Made wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:52 pm Gut read: ties aren’t resolved by mafia. I’m cool where things are I think

this is a mafia claim so therefore it's town

well i guess thats one thing i agree with you've said

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:32 pm marmot is unconcerned for his survival, supposedly that's a town tell

low WIM is how accurate a tell for marmot in your experince?

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:59 pm I don't normally use phrases like "hand the mafia the game on a silver platter" but...

Then lets try to move things along so tomarrow goes better

speedchuck wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:59 pm ooh I got ninja'd.

My role is literally a fake red peek. Gerrofff wit' your shade

Nah. I see you now. I expose you. You're not following role instructions. You're playing out your role name.

You are being naughty. Why? Is it an attempt to deflect suspicion? Like it's towny to have to do that?

I don't know about you man.

Also, if we're all town, then how does a nightkill happen? Some mass psychic convergence?

Inb4 no one dies tonight

Wait okay. So cards on the table. My role is a fake vig kill, but mine didn’t give a target. Did yours chuck?

You guys, the roles are Fond Memories of Nanook's Past Bastardism, not instructions.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:37 am You guys, the roles are Fond Memories of Nanook's Past Bastardism, not instructions.

oooooooooooohhhhhh

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:26 am Wait okay. So cards on the table. My role is a fake vig kill, but mine didn’t give a target. Did yours chuck?

Evidently I'm just naughty.

I'm on the varsity tennis team.

putting my doctor on speedchuck

In the night! @MacDougall has died and flips town

D2 ends Sunday February 7 at 4pm EST, or when someone receives 5 votes

@chardonnay
@Long Con
@Made
@Marmot
@MartinGG99
@speedchuck
@TonyStarkPrime

Post caps are these +80

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:47 am putting my doctor on speedchuck

Really hope you were faking. RIP mac.

Marmot needtadie. Thoughts?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Yeah, nah that’s a yikes speedchuck is bad here
[VOTE: SpeedChuck] aubergine

needtadie?

I have more questions than thoughts on that one.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:08 am

Made wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:26 am Wait okay. So cards on the table. My role is a fake vig kill, but mine didn’t give a target. Did yours chuck?

Evidently I'm just naughty.

So to be clear it didn’t?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 6:25 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 3:47 am putting my doctor on speedchuck

Really hope you were faking. RIP mac.

Marmot needtadie. Thoughts?

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

He didn’t vote yet..?

lol, come back and vote in the poll @speedchuck

For those of you claiming fake roles, namely speedchuck and Made. Did y'all target anyone last night?

Ok, then.

[VOTE: speedchuck] aubergine

Man the baddies are really coming out of the woodwork to jump on lil old me.

You guys have grievances you wanna talk about? Those would be good.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:35 pm Man the baddies are really coming out of the woodwork to jump on lil old me.

You guys have grievances you wanna talk about? Those would be good.

Yeah, where is everyone?

Also, you answering Marmot's question could be helpful regarding my vote.

And do you really think I'm bad for that vote? I was scared to make it because of Jester potential, you've been so sketchy with the weird roleclaim that's mostly from your imagination.

Okay let's turn this around. Using the powers of logic and deduction.

Tomorrow.

tbh presuming just 2 scum

I'm not feeling too good that we have only 2 more town kills before game over and the scum likely outnumber us

and the fact that two towns have died; one saying Marmot is town, and the other saying marmot is lock mafia

is just giving me no indication on whether my intuition is right or anything

but if I had to guess it would appear there's one scum in marmot/speechuck

the trouble is whom, or better yet if this is even a good assumption to make in the first place

You know what I get a sort of towny tone feeling from LC's recent posts

so I kinda trust him + the fact both the wagons yesterday town-read eachother

[VOTE: Speedchuck] aubergine

martin is terrible in his reading this game but lets hope this is the right action

Not to mention Mac's lock-town Made is voting Chuck.

Well not lock-town, don't think he said lock but I felt that sort of confidence or impression from him.

I feel like something's off with TSP, granted I don't think I've had a whole tonnage of experience playing with him.

But this just feels tonally off to go from this

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:54 pm vote martin i guess

cereal with knife turned out poorly

to this

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:14 am

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:23 pm i mean jfc

no one has reasoned to me exactly why someone else is scum

even after I claimed I didn't really have any reads

like the lack of town coordination or ability on display here

is just bad imo overall

fine you can be town

Or at least when I say "fine", or starting with it, it generally has more agitation with it.

Here he could've said:

"ok you can be town"
"I've changed my mind martin is town"
"I don't think martin is scum now"

etc etc etc

Instead he just says "fine you can be town", which looks and feels a lot different to me than from where he originally started as "vote martin I guess"


Granted ofc this could be to me not knowing him well as a player.

Well, maybe its because he just not being very public with his thinking.

I could see one explanation for it.

But its not like I'm going to talk about that explanation other than note it just incase it becomes relevant later.

Progression still feels odd to me though.

Chuck + TSP early interactions happening but no later interactions also seems odd to me tbh

Especially when TSP did vote chuck, I noted it, and the last time it was even really reacted to or mentioned was this:

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:59 pm Hot Take: TSP mad that I red checked his partner

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:39 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:01 pm yes I am who'd you redcheck

Your partner.

I thought we'd been over this.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:29 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:50 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:39 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 5:01 pm yes I am who'd you redcheck

Your partner.

I thought we'd been over this.

whose his partner?

You tell me

Just nothing after this. No notices that X interaction was scummy or towny by either of them like they're in this unimplied null area for who-knows-what-reason.

heck the fact that neither of them are addressing or re-addressing the issue of each other right now or by now seems odd to me

Even though I've been advocating that both wagons yesterday were possibly town, and that at one point or another I was a town-read of theirs

Wait actually TSP is just voting me =_=

and Chuck is voting Marmot rn

I guess the TL;DR of it is that

I'm not really vibing or feeling with Chuck and TSP so far rn

it feels like there's more things that are off about them

than things being off about anyone else

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:16 am I was wanting marmot blood last night. wish i could've been presnt to push things harder.:/

Look @chardonnay while I do feel like there's something with TSP and Chuck's slots....

Reading this gives me pause.

I would very much like to hear your reasons for why marmot is scum, even if its past EoD1 or if it seems no one agrees with you.

Vibe-wise I like some of your posts in particular for which I won't mention right now

but I would really appreciate it if by giving me all of your reasons on Marmot it'll help me (and potentially others) find you town

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:26 am

chardonnay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:16 am I was wanting marmot blood last night. wish i could've been presnt to push things harder.:/

Look @chardonnay while I do feel like there's something with TSP and Chuck's slots....

Reading this gives me pause.

I would very much like to hear your reasons for why marmot is scum, even if its past EoD1 or if it seems no one agrees with you.

D1 he did that meme where he voted a player not on the roster, and it reminded me of the open-set mason game i ran where he spent his NK to shot an already dead player. I believe you were in that game.

Marmot wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:56 pm

chardonnay wrote: ↑Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:39 pm A lot of players are playing really trolly and making it hard to distinguish town from scum.

not a fan of that.

Marmot voting somebody outside the roster stands out to me. Feels like the kinda joke they make as scum imo.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

The host votes arent helpful, but i recall players doing that stuff on my homesite fairly often as both alignemnts.

I have done this in a recent game and yes it was as scum.

Actually, it might have even been in your game.

Marmot went on the acknowledge this of his own accord in a way that felt like really cocky scum.

I thought I made a post calling this out, but apperntly not.

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I was also really concerned that Marmot just never seemed to accrue pressure throughout the day. At least until he was right at EoD.

My resolve isnt as strong as it was when I was when i first saw that Esooa was flipped and not marmot. That, "We should have flipped marmot" was in the moment annoyance. Im not feeling as strongly on him now was i was last night.

I want to look at others before i come back to marmot.

D1 Speed chuck was hard to figure out since I thought the thing about copping Tony's partner just seemed like a joke, but i did want him to out the result for curiosity. He backed off later and said it was a post restriction thing. I did take his word at face value, and didnt press it since i didnt see it as particularly useful info to pick at.

I think post restrictions should be treated as non-AI this game. Not sure if i have said that already.

I do think that Speed tying up the votes is probably the singerly most scummy thing he has done this game. Like, its scummy wheather or not Marmot turns out to be scum. Giving mafia the chance to choose who to shoot means they can build WIFOM on a player that was garnering suspicion, (Marmot in this case).

Really only argument i can think of for town doing this is not knowing better, I dont have the experince w/ Speed to know if town them makes a mistake like that.

So yes, i do scum lean Speed.

Tony SR was fueled by spinning non-ai things about me as if they were scummy.

Just seemed like he was saying things for the sake of putting reads out there, but not really thinking about it in a slovely way. If that makes sense.

Of course im not very familiar with Tony, so there could be method to the madness.

MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:16 am Wait actually TSP is just voting me =_=

and Chuck is voting Marmot rn

TSP/Chuck team? hmmm

how likely a world do you see this as Martian?