is spf doing this something you think she would need to cognizantly replicate or just something she would do unintentionally?
I don't know. She could do it unintentionally, semi-intentionally, or fully intentionally.
My concern is twofold: A) it is something she has seen me do and earn town credit for in a high profile spot.
B) I do not feel like there was an organic reason for her to utilize that play at that moment.
well I'd argue two things
if spf is aware of you and minor facets of your playstyle to the degree she unintentionally replicates it, it's likely she would do the same as town too
and if it's something spf would need to consciously replicate, well I just don't think spf is someone who considers the player list and get play to that extent as scum because:
I believe she intends to not high effort this game
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
is spf doing this something you think she would need to cognizantly replicate or just something she would do unintentionally?
I don't know. She could do it unintentionally, semi-intentionally, or fully intentionally.
My concern is twofold: A) it is something she has seen me do and earn town credit for in a high profile spot.
B) I do not feel like there was an organic reason for her to utilize that play at that moment.
I left this thought unfinished.
SPF doing that thing here suggests to me that she might be nervous about my perception of her in particular, and she did a thing that was designed purely to affect how I am reading her, as opposed to "generating content" or anything of that sort.
Her response to my prods on her motivation felt a bit clunky as well, but I haven't really dissected those words.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
is spf doing this something you think she would need to cognizantly replicate or just something she would do unintentionally?
I don't know. She could do it unintentionally, semi-intentionally, or fully intentionally.
My concern is twofold: A) it is something she has seen me do and earn town credit for in a high profile spot.
B) I do not feel like there was an organic reason for her to utilize that play at that moment.
well I'd argue two things
if spf is aware of you and minor facets of your playstyle to the degree she unintentionally replicates it, it's likely she would do the same as town too
and if it's something spf would need to consciously replicate, well I just don't think spf is someone who considers the player list and get play to that extent as scum because:
I believe she intends to not high effort this game
jess doesn't actively plan out what to do as scum
It is entirely possible that she is town. I have concerns that I'd like to pursue.
i think grogu claiming to be green is non-alignment indicative because it would be the easiest thing in the world to make up - it's not like he's claiming a role with specific or unique abilities. it's the equivalent of trying to read into someone that says: "i'm town", imo
but i think his tone is fine so far - even good
to be fair this read does concern me
spf knows grogu has good tone as scum, he showed that in spider verse mafia
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
you're right I had an interest in not talking about your read. Mostly because it was bad and annoying me
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
My satire radar is in need of repair, I'll need some help here.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
you're right I had an interest in not talking about your read. Mostly because it was bad and annoying me
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
My satire radar is in need of repair, I'll need some help here.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia
you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
I have a theory: she doesn't like that I correctly called her out as scum, and is motivated to get discussion moving elsewhere, with her as the towny discussion motivator.
My satire radar is in need of repair, I'll need some help here.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia
you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 9:55 pm
as for the "there wasn't an organic reason to do it"
I'm not so sure about that. Honestly, calling attention to your reads in such a way I almost always dislike; it just feels showy to be
but it's also something that I've seen come from town *at least* as often as scum
What is your motivation for pursuing this discussion to the extent that you are?
the fact you literally asked for it
I am not criticizing you for engaging in discussion. I am asking what is motivating you. You have taken a stance that is distinctly defensive of SPF/critical of me. Why?
my motivation is the fact I wanna post in thread cause I like talking about mafia
you asked for discussion about your read, I disagreed with the read. I gave my reasons as to why
How do you read me right now?
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.
When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
unless you mean how seriously I treat your reads
I think they're valid to criticize and base reads off of
for how much weight I give that refer to my last post lol
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.
When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later
I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:15 pm
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later
I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Noted.
The reason I asked is that you seemed to be assigning more weight to my Long Con and spf reads than I am myself. I believe in the reads I have expressed in them so far, but I do not consider either of them to be even remotely close to solid. They are my initial impressions on the game.
There is not much more to the LC read than what I have said: I thought his attitude when he joked about being masons with me looked like a happy and carefree LC. The whole "claiming masons is easy" thing is not a line I'd apply to LC in particular: he's an old school Syndicat. The trend of claiming masons on Day 1 is a strange new custom we're not used to here. So I don't look at it as a routine thing for him to do. I just thought the post suggested he was coming at the thread from a place of ease, not straining to integrate himself. A vague impression, but an impression nonetheless.
I thought his response to the suspicion was snarky but laidback. I didn't mind. Scum LC doesn't get rattled by early Day 1 pressure.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.
When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later
I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:15 pm
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later
I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Noted.
The reason I asked is that you seemed to be assigning more weight to my Long Con and spf reads than I am myself. I believe in the reads I have expressed in them so far, but I do not consider either of them to be even remotely close to solid. They are my initial impressions on the game.
There is not much more to the LC read than what I have said: I thought his attitude when he joked about being masons with me looked like a happy and carefree LC. The whole "claiming masons is easy" thing is not a line I'd apply to LC in particular: he's an old school Syndicat. The trend of claiming masons on Day 1 is a strange new custom we're not used to here. So I don't look at it as a routine thing for him to do. I just thought the post suggested he was coming at the thread from a place of ease, not straining to integrate himself. A vague impression, but an impression nonetheless.
I thought his response to the suspicion was snarky but laidback. I didn't mind. Scum LC doesn't get rattled by early Day 1 pressure.
if that's why then okay; that makes more sense
I figured you were saying it was towny because of something along the lines of masons are a town only role.
I still think his response was bad. It doesn't have to do with being rattled, it has to do with what was imo an unnatural change in behavior when I pointed it out
as for how seriously I'm treating your reads; I don't expect you to strongly town read LC, but I do expect your (less serious) town read to have valid reasoning, which I didn't see before
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:10 pm
your read on LC is weird and I think he's very likely scum. Biggest reason is he immediately switched his posting style when I pointed out he was more serious than normal. You didn't explain your LC town read and I didn't like that
past that I still don't really get why you think the mason thing is towny
How seriously do you treat early-game reads?
depends on the player. For you, not very seriously
I meant your own reads, or reads in general.
When you say "for me" do you mean the reads that I have stated? Why? What is your perception of me? I think this is our first game together, or maybe our second.
need to do stuff for a few minutes so a quick response then will answer more later
I meant I treat my current read on you as not very serious and likely to change pending what you do later
Isn't that true of all reads?
maybe? Not all, but I said that as in, "it's likely to change;" or, I wouldn't be surprised if it changed, because my read as of right now isn't very strong
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night.
Esooa wrote: ↑Sun Feb 28, 2021 10:28 pm
what's your read on me?
Unsure. I feel like your reasons for being wary of me make sense from a civilian perspective, but your responses to my questions have felt like you are trying not to extend yourself too much, playing it a little hostile rather than just answering the questions I am asking. But sometimes my questions just do that to people, so I'm not going to commit to a read on that just yet.
