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Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:18 pm
by dyachei
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:18 pm
dyachei wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:17 pm i dont want to vote seanzie, dunya, alison, SS or NAA today. who does that leave?
HK and Sabi
Im not very good at reading those 2 on d1 so I'd rather vote elsewhere

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:19 pm
by dyachei
has wilgy posted at all?

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:19 pm
by Shending_Help
dyachei wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:09 pm i have no idea where to vote. until just now i was nap trapped by a baby
Sabi/alison/jack/falcon votes all got my stamp of approval

With that said, we'll need some other voters if we wanna go for any of the latter 3 considering the current situation

Since I'm almost out of posts I'll add that my reason for Alison is that I dont rly get a good feeling from her ISO being very narrowly focused on 1) wisdom who I lean V (and I think her way of voting/pushing wisdom is very easy to do as maf) 2) Cape based on mainly the opening stuff from the very start of day.

Jack's iso is basically devoid of reads while still posting quite a bit of words. Not feeling great about that.

Falcon is kinda self-explanatory. He gives off the most of just not caring about the game at all of the low posters. Its a cop-out d1 kill for sure, but since I doubt he'll put in effort later I'm down to go for a cop out d1 (while I'm typing this I realized that killing a perma Poe player d1 might be worse in this game if it ends up being like 5/6 maf since then we have less chances)

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:21 pm
by dyachei
Shending_Help wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:19 pm
dyachei wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:09 pm i have no idea where to vote. until just now i was nap trapped by a baby
Sabi/alison/jack/falcon votes all got my stamp of approval

With that said, we'll need some other voters if we wanna go for any of the latter 3 considering the current situation

Since I'm almost out of posts I'll add that my reason for Alison is that I dont rly get a good feeling from her ISO being very narrowly focused on 1) wisdom who I lean V (and I think her way of voting/pushing wisdom is very easy to do as maf) 2) Cape based on mainly the opening stuff from the very start of day.

Jack's iso is basically devoid of reads while still posting quite a bit of words. Not feeling great about that.

Falcon is kinda self-explanatory. He gives off the most of just not caring about the game at all of the low posters. Its a cop-out d1 kill for sure, but since I doubt he'll put in effort later I'm down to go for a cop out d1 (while I'm typing this I realized that killing a perma Poe player d1 might be worse in this game if it ends up being like 5/6 maf since then we have less chances)
so that's kind of how jack is? read s7 champs finale to see his v game

I could get on board with falcon though. he didnt contribute much

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:22 pm
by dyachei
[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:29 pm
by Marmot
falcon45ca wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:54 pm There are so many words on this page...



My motivation has a bad motivator!

What does this post mean?

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:30 pm
by dyachei
Im still not used to EOD being this dead. don't we have like 30 mins left?

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:41 pm
by Wisdom
Sorry, currently unavailable!

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:42 pm
by Shending_Help
dyachei wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:30 pm Im still not used to EOD being this dead. don't we have like 30 mins left?
I got 2 posts left after this

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

(do we have to vote in the thread or is it OK to just swap in the poll?)

My legacy:

Spacedaisy N0

My top towns: Wisdom, Marmot

Think are townies: HK, Sean, Axe

Ordered Nulls:

Wigly
Dya
Cape
Dunya

Current Kill-pool (could change between nulls and ppl in here from very little new info) :
Sabi/jack/falcon/Alison

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:42 pm
by Wisdom
Also I'm sorry if wrong HK but if so we're even </3

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:46 pm
by Marmot
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:15 pm I skimmed a few D1s from Sabiplz, and am okay staying on them. I'm not going to promise I read the games super close, but nothing about her town v scum made me think she is town now, and a few things made me think she could be wolf (she felt a lot more comfortable in her first MU game than she does here, and as town she seems to do more reads and less casing, whereas here and in at least one of her mafia games, she did what felt more like casing on D1 rather than reads). I don't think these meta reads should hold too much weight, but the fact that they point negatively makes me okay staying where I'm at.

Thanks, I'll get to it if I have time.


I looked at hk's ISO in comparison to sabi's meta explanation in P#273.

hk didn't explain his first list of reads, though he did explain them later on. I'm indifferent on this point

I don't agree with the argument that hk is trying to pocket someone if he is also arguing with them. Those two actions oppose each other. I do agree however that hk does ruffle feathers more when he is mafia. That's been my experience with him.


As for sabi claiming RBer, I dunno, I feel less comfortable killing her right now with a PR claim.


Sorry, was distracted and meant to finish this post earlier. Will catch up quickly.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:46 pm
by Wisdom
I could probably go for a cfd is someone is feeling spicy :3

But still think HK/Alison are wolves, although I haven't really focused in a few hours.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:46 pm
by Shending_Help
Wisdom, what do you think about HKs reaction to sabi's case? It was short but sweet Imo, in a way I'd expect to townie to react if it sees a bunch of meta BS.

He didn't write a countercase to look good, which I think would be very easy to do regardless of alignment. Just "literally everything here is backwards *votes*"

You know HK better than me but... Think he's townier thna a lot of ppl in this game

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:47 pm
by Wisdom
I'm not available to read stuff sorry Shen.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:49 pm
by Marmot
Shending_Help wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:08 pm Wanna add tension? I'm down to start a cfd, I got 3 lvls of spicyness for you:

Spice lv 0: falcon

Spice lv 1: Jack

Spice lv 2: Alison

... Thoughts?

We have a 40% chance to hit a wolf (right?).

I'm down for spice level 0 or 1. Or 4.


falcon his been misyeeted early in the last few games I've played with him, but he at least tried to post content in those games.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:50 pm
by Shending_Help
hollowkatt wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:33 pm
Sabiplz wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:51 pm
Meta case on hk
OK I isoed HK and I have first hand knowledge of mafia HK, wolfsided town HK, and town HK. The whole spectrum of HK. I will compare with his mu games so bear with me.

P#77 (I think I'm formating this correct) has no explanation of his reads. Doesn't expand or go into detail. Town HK and wolfsided town HK (Albert like V briefly) goes into somewhat detail of his reads. He usually just doesn't do townreads but includes other types of reads.

P#78 feels pockety. HK tends to do this in his town meta

P#87 HK when town tries to not ruffle feathers. The fact he keeps butting head with someone he supposedly tr and trying to pocket (which is conflicting from earlier) is not what he does as town.

Him constantly antagonizing her p#100. He does this thing where he twists what someone says to go under their skin. He has done this to me when maf. He loves blaming others for when he incorrectly sr them.

Last part p#124 is HK has their weird expectation where he needs people to do stuff that his brain decided is the only way to do things. That's NAI for him but just want to point that out.


Summery: he's more in his mafia range than not.
[VOTE: sabi] aubergine

You've literally got everything backwards, but ok
@Wisdom

Then I'm using my last post to link you this. U don't need to read all of sabis points. Just take a look at HKs response and the general situation.

I think it's a towny reaction to a meta case that he thinks s bullshit

I say we kill falcon today

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:52 pm
by Marmot
Shending_Help wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:46 pm Wisdom, what do you think about HKs reaction to sabi's case? It was short but sweet Imo, in a way I'd expect to townie to react if it sees a bunch of meta BS.

He didn't write a countercase to look good, which I think would be very easy to do regardless of alignment. Just "literally everything here is backwards *votes*"

You know HK better than me but... Think he's townier thna a lot of ppl in this game

I don't fully agree with his response (in that I don't think the strict opposite of sabi's meta case is accurate).

Also sabi said that one of the points pointed to hk's town meta, and hk basically said that wasn't true lol. But maybe he was just annoyed about the points that were wrong.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:52 pm
by Marmot
Spice level 10: Kill Shending!

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:53 pm
by Seanzie
This falcon flashwagon is extremely anti-town.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm
by Spacedaisy
I don’t have a read on almost anyone because I haven’t read up and I probably won’t. Sooo, I will say the little bits I have see. From DH and sabi I feel ok about. So I don’t want to vote them.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm
by Marmot
FYI, mafia get to break ties, so we shouldn't do ties.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm
by Marmot
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm [VOTE: Falcon] aubergine
What did I just say.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:55 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:56 pm
by Marmot
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm I don’t have a read on almost anyone because I haven’t read up and I probably won’t. Sooo, I will say the little bits I have see. From DH and sabi I feel ok about. So I don’t want to vote them.
DharmaHelper isn't playing. (who are you referring to by DH?)


Quick synopsis of current wagons:

sabi has been dismissing meta reads on LC, the mafia draft captain, but has claimed a PR

falcon has posted a couple times, nothing of substance

hk is potentially in wolf meta, and stands accused of pocketing

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:56 pm
by Seanzie
[VOTE: sabiplz] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm
by Wisdom
Actually I just realized there's potentially pr's in this game and no one is here to claim. Let's not flash wagon.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm
by Spacedaisy
Marmot wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:56 pm
Spacedaisy wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:54 pm I don’t have a read on almost anyone because I haven’t read up and I probably won’t. Sooo, I will say the little bits I have see. From DH and sabi I feel ok about. So I don’t want to vote them.
DharmaHelper isn't playing. (who are you referring to by DH?)


Quick synopsis of current wagons:

sabi has been dismissing meta reads on LC, the mafia draft captain, but has claimed a PR

falcon has posted a couple times, nothing of substance

hk is potentially in wolf meta, and stands accused of pocketing
Fat fingers + autocorrect, I’m playing on mobile. I meant dya

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm
by Seanzie
I really think Sabi should be the elim.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Wisdom
I can see Sabi, HK, Alison all be wolves!

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Seanzie
Marmot, Wisdom, vote Sabi

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Spacedaisy
I like Wisdom too, I think I’ll drop my vote on HK.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Marmot
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.
She claimed PR though

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Seanzie
ugh HK just shadowvoted Sabi.

They are probably teamed

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
by Wisdom
I don't know how to see post count or iso btw, if I'm alive tomorrow please rem8nd me.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm
by Seanzie
Marmot wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:58 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:57 pm I really think Sabi should be the elim.
She claimed PR though
Yeah, I don't believe it.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm
by Spacedaisy
[VOTE: hollowkat] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm
by Marmot
Breaking the tie

[VOTE: Sabi] aubergine

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm
by Seanzie
voted HK to avoid tie

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Seanzie
someone jumped on HK at the last minute idk who

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Marmot
Breaking the tie again

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Spacedaisy
Did I create a tie?

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Seanzie
oh space daisy

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Marmot
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm voted HK to avoid tie
That was me probably, we should never have ties.

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Wisdom
Glgl!

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
by Seanzie
I saw it as 5/5 post Marmot and Daisy votes, so I moved ot HK just in case I die

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 pm
by Spacedaisy
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pmoh space daisy
What?

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 pm
by Seanzie
Marmot wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:00 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 6:59 pm voted HK to avoid tie
That was me probably, we should never have ties.
no you had moved itwas daisy

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Thread locked, no posting

Re: Gym Class Mafia D1

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 7:01 pm
by Spacedaisy
It wasn’t a tie when I voted I don’t believe. Or if it was I didn’t know it.