The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:39 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:25 am Well-reasoned and I can’t fault you for this vote.

Well-reasoned SVS can be so tricksy.

SVS, what is your read of me? Do you think I am being disingenuous?

Do you associate severity with S~V~S in either alignment? I ask, because that's the crux of my own view on her. I understand her take on tutuu even if I don't quite agree, and she has presented it with a certain "force" that looks authentic. I haven't played enough lately, especially with S~V~S, to make a "meta" read of that, so it's purely a face-value impression. I ask primarily with the orange line in mind.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:40 am**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:57 am

nm there she is

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.

Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:32 am gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

I SAY GOOD DAY SIR

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:42 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:29 pm @Seanzie COME HERE FAST

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:44 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:33 am
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 3:20 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:40 am Page two and the mech talk is fine, I suppose. Easy pocket material, tho, especially with the prevalent "ooh tutuu is town for mechtalking this much" sentiment.

Tutuu still bit wishwashy or just plain derpy now with the whole "town be swag and not pick food" but then "oh wait getting increasingly hungry will lose game for town" progression.

Ping on Rondo asking to be grouped with the mechtalkers. For what? Or what kind of cred?

I don't think the game will be faultily designed (especially with this being an Epig game) as to reach a mechanical loss i.e. fX town being starved or mafia hogging all the protections each time.
I'm not too fond of this post for its structure. Could be excessively designed to appear contributive. The suspicion on Rondo and the reaction OMGUS is interesting if it goes further, otherwise I could see them both doing some early distancing with this.
This seems a bit cooked to me. Orange just strikes me as an odd perspective given the Rico post being addressed, and red made my left eyeball do that thing it would normally do if I were sitting in a restaurant and heard some guy nearby on a date start talking about how women really are unprompted

Says the guy that’s been on 74 first dates. Sounds like a tall *mountain* to scale

*cough cough*

But I also agree with this. Doesn’t say a lot and is addressing structure of a post to assign alignment. Pretty meh

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 am**

[VOTE: Red Mushroom] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:44 am JJJ is town

eagle falcon eye over here

Why

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:44 am Says the guy that’s been on 74 first dates. Sounds like a tall *mountain* to scale

*cough cough*

But I also agree with this. Doesn’t say a lot and is addressing structure of a post to assign alignment. Pretty meh

Okay yeah, but I have been on like 3 second dates.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:46 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:24 am @Scotty what's your view of Vivax in isolation?

Yeah, it’s not good bob

I’ll get to a full rainbow list in a bit

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:48 am**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:27 am My WiM is significantly dead... so that's cool.

But we just started!

Just remember- in here, it’s always Fridays

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:48 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:40 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 8:57 am
nm there she is

There is but one constant with Zenon.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:30 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 am I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting
Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read
Amusingly... not gif posting is one of my scum tells

Right, but I don’t rely on meta as a pure way to suspect someone.

And anyway, you assuaged my concern slightly.

Just need to work on getting your WIM back. That’s concerning since we just started and haven’t flipped anyone

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:44 am JJJ is town
eagle falcon eye over here

Why

The last game I played with JJJ he was scum, and had different tone.

I accused him of Revelations 3:15-18, and I'm not seeing that here

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am**

I hope Scotty is eating good in the neighborhood.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:50 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.
Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.

I'm struggling because there was like 5 pages of mech talk and that's just not anything I will ever feel comfortable with or generally be able to connect too. It feels like noise to me and I can't read alignemt into it because it doesn't gel with my read style so like despite being hundreds of post deep I have like net zero reads and normally I gr as sp onto small snap reads early to gain a foothold in the game

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:51 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:30 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:28 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:15 am I'm surprised nobody has pushed me for only 11 posting
Actually, I’m more scum leaning you now because you haven’t posted any gifs in your first page of posts or shown that solving snark I come to expect from town Zenon

Meta is fluid tho, so it’s a base level read
Amusingly... not gif posting is one of my scum tells
Right, but I don’t rely on meta as a pure way to suspect someone.

And anyway, you assuaged my concern slightly.

Just need to work on getting your WIM back. That’s concerning since we just started and haven’t flipped anyone

It's a me problem

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:53 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:39 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:25 am Well-reasoned and I can’t fault you for this vote.

Well-reasoned SVS can be so tricksy.

SVS, what is your read of me? Do you think I am being disingenuous?
Do you associate severity with S~V~S in either alignment? I ask, because that's the crux of my own view on her. I understand her take on tutuu even if I don't quite agree, and she has presented it with a certain "force" that looks authentic. I haven't played enough lately, especially with S~V~S, to make a "meta" read of that, so it's purely a face-value impression. I ask primarily with the orange line in mind.

I think SVS’ strength comes from being able to veil her alignment by strong pushes and well reasoned logic. I think I have a bit of an edge in watching her post as the only mafia for a few cycles in my Se7en game and can see strong similarities between her arguments and play.

I think time will have to tell with her, and that can come from a results focused approach

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:58 am**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:49 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:45 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:44 am JJJ is town
eagle falcon eye over here

Why

The last game I played with JJJ he was scum, and had different tone.

I accused him of Revelations 3:15-18, and I'm not seeing that here

*looks up the scripture*

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:59 am**

I appreciate both Rico and Scotty engaging with my takes on Vivax.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:59 am**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:50 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.
Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.
I'm struggling because there was like 5 pages of mech talk and that's just not anything I will ever feel comfortable with or generally be able to connect too. It feels like noise to me and I can't read alignemt into it because it doesn't gel with my read style so like despite being hundreds of post deep I have like net zero reads and normally I gr as sp onto small snap reads early to gain a foothold in the game

Snap reads time/

You’ve at least interacted with me and Jjj:
What’s your take on us?

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:10 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:59 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:50 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:41 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:34 am I will behave now. Sorry for lashing out.

I do not like being accused of playing against the spirit of the game that genuinely hurts me because of some old mafia wounds.
Your feelings are valid.

We play on! If you're stifled for motivation at the moment, I'd be pleased to hear your takes on some of the lower posters.
I'm struggling because there was like 5 pages of mech talk and that's just not anything I will ever feel comfortable with or generally be able to connect too. It feels like noise to me and I can't read alignemt into it because it doesn't gel with my read style so like despite being hundreds of post deep I have like net zero reads and normally I gr as sp onto small snap reads early to gain a foothold in the game
Snap reads time/

You’ve at least interacted with me and Jjj:
What’s your take on us?

Your both town and hopefully will lead me like a lost sheep to victory.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:10 pm**

But I don't really have a strong reason for that

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:18 pm**

Sorry for not posting, but I think I know who I'm voting for and that's tutuu. It seems tutuu was trying to get there way then when everyone found that out tutuu tried to say that they were just saying what they thought. That's why I'm voting tutuu.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:22 pm**

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:10 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:35 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:31 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:17 am @Zenon has been posting without having read her role pm just clarifying and remembering for myself too to not read into what shes said so far as ai
Hm? How do you figure she hasnt?
U get ur role pm by joining epi's discord server. Then u wait for him to assign u to ur channel. Zenon started posting itt 1 min after joining the server. She isnt assigned to her channel yet i see her name being white and not red, she doesnt have the role "Character" like others yet. Epi is asleep. This is similar to how Martin caught Lime posting without having read his role pm
Not a defense of neon just an fyi if you have been paying attention I was posting without knowing my role pm at the start because I had no clue there was a discord till tutuu mentioned it

Ok kewl do u remember which one is ur first post which u wrote knowing ur alignment?

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:24 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:32 am gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.

I think u need to vote for the exact name

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:25 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:38 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 6:45 am tutuu
martinwp69
jay
scotty

svs
rico
rondo
My initial impressions are quite similar, albeit for different reasons. I don't quite have a clear impression of Rondo yet, and I don't think I'd "blue" Scotty, but otherwise right on.

Hell yea buddy

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:26 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:43 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 9:32 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 10:35 pm I AM TOWN!

We can't stop here...this is bat country
falcon also posted this without having read his alignment

That is incorrect.

I'm always town

I mean honestly not wrong

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:26 pm**

motobot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:18 pm Sorry for not posting, but I think I know who I'm voting for and that's tutuu. It seems tutuu was trying to get there way then when everyone found that out tutuu tried to say that they were just saying what they thought. That's why I'm voting tutuu.

I don't follow.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:30 pm**

Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:26 am
Ricochet wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:16 am
Zenon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:08 am I'm town. Glad we got that out of the way. Now play the fucking game and stop being weird about me for choosing to play it
I need neither expletives nor accusations thrown at me for pointing that you played blindfolded mafia for half a day and it's void of any proper mafia reading, thanks.
Oh what a joke. I was 4 pages behind I'm not gonna sit with my hands tied because I didn't get a ping or notification until 4 pages into this game.

A wolf will fake towniness. A town will be towny. I didn't play against the spirit of the fucking game by playing the fucking game. This is such a dumb take and honestly insulting.

Its not a dumb take

Its not insulting, at least the core concept of it, regardless of rico's wording

U arent playing mafia if u dont know ur alignment. Ur literally not a player yet

In most communities it gets u modkilled because its a form of cheating. U can rand mafia, not real ur role pm, then u dont have the burden of TMI. People read u as towny and u dont deserve it

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:32 pm**

Ricos wording was quite respectful

Zenon probably town for her tantrum. Her take is horrible though

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:37 pm**

jjj pushing me is meh. Tonally comes across as townie.
Don‘t know why tutuu should be mafia, they‘re sharing a lot of information. Reaction to Rondo getting wagoned, maybe. Tutuu seems to play around with the rendo road.

Scotty is null-ish for now.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:37 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 11:42 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Mon Jul 10, 2023 9:29 pm @Seanzie COME HERE FAST

Lmaoooo

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:40 pm**

motobot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:18 pm Sorry for not posting, but I think I know who I'm voting for and that's tutuu. It seems tutuu was trying to get there way then when everyone found that out tutuu tried to say that they were just saying what they thought. That's why I'm voting tutuu.

I read this 5 times and im still confused

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:41 pm**

Vivax is null for me jay

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:42 pm**

tutuu wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:24 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 10:32 am gm.

[VOTE: Food] aubergine

[VOTE: JJJ] aubergine

That is all. Good day.
I think u need to vote for the exact name

Yeah, his name is JoggedJammyJoy

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:43 pm**

tutuu
martinwp69
jay
scotty

svs
rico
zenon
pending rondo (i need to know when he read his role pm)

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:47 pm**

Rn I could vote Wilgy or motobot

Wilgy cause of sneaky postss
motobot for sneaky vote

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

His play mostly defined by unseriously voting jjj.
Could use more input from there ig

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:56 pm**

martin
Tutuu
Rondo
Rico

Porscha- got that fire and simultaneous looseness I associate with town Porscha
Zenon- based on vibes, could go either way but I’m leaning town atm

diebabymeat- hasn’t ruffled feathers too much, want to see more
JJJ- Is blendy, which is weird for town JJJ, but then again? It’s been a while
SVS- smooth criminal, needs time to simmer

Seanzie, Line Coke, falcon, Wilgy, moto- this tier can go in any order. I have no solid reason to Townlean any of them
Vivax- his tone comes off as bombastic and his reads aren’t fully realized

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:58 pm**

Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:37 pm jjj pushing me is meh. Tonally comes across as townie.
Don‘t know why tutuu should be mafia, they‘re sharing a lot of information. Reaction to Rondo getting wagoned, maybe. Tutuu seems to play around with the rendo road.

Scotty is null-ish for now.

[VOTE: Vivax] aubergine

This ain’t it, brotha

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:00 pm**

I'll probably be "blendy". I remember the old days when I was a virile warrior of the hunt. Now I am a Mafia Grandpa, and the act of making posts causes me the same awkward groan as getting up from the couch.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:00 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 1:56 pm
diebabymeat

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:09 pm**

I'm getting noseitches about Scotty.

First he pushes a sus on SVS - at the time (#153) it seemed to come off tutuu's own doubts, but upon revisit it seems it wasn't a sheep moment - of which the reasoning comes off flat.
Then he pushes on Vivax of off JJJ's case - and it felt like a coast; or I would have rather imagined Scotty could have come up with his own take, separately.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:19 pm**

Creature might be a 0 posting wolf

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:22 pm**

Was motobot Kate's husband?

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:29 pm**

motobot is Epignosis's son.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:31 pm**

Oooh i see, gotcha

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:35 pm**

I think I understand what motobot meant, but I will let him explain for himself before I say anything.

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:41 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:00 pm I'll probably be "blendy". I remember the old days when I was a virile warrior of the hunt. Now I am a Mafia Grandpa, and the act of making posts causes me the same awkward groan as getting up from the couch.

That’s fair. But I don’t think we should excuse this as town behavior from you or anyone.

And actually, I read this as a lame excuse. You can still have opinions and reads while being a middling poster in terms of quantity

Posted: **Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:42 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:00 pm I'll probably be "blendy". I remember the old days when I was a virile warrior of the hunt. Now I am a Mafia Grandpa, and the act of making posts causes me the same awkward groan as getting up from the couch.

Omg I so feel this.

Work has actually expected me to work today but I should be home 3-3.5 ish hours to check out the @s and jump in the fray.

I HAVE THOUGHTS!

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