The Syndicate

Just looking at the SVS voters and I think LC looks the worst?

Dunya was very clear in the suspicion.
LPP didn't have much re SVS but there was something in there regarding WW banter between Falcon and SVS.
LC kinda just reappeared and shot from the hip.

lol, is there a world where PA + LC is theatre?

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:51 am

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:49 am

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:47 am @Roxy
So in review, I think I agree with LC on Abigail re voting Brad then they get immediately nk'd. The only people Lime Coke really had commentary on outside of SVS/Abigail was Long Con? Everything else was town reads.

S~V~S is a nasty wagon. There was at least 2 town on SVS so there is merit to town thinking SVS was a wolf and I'll need to parse that.

• Does a combination of Dunya LC work?
  • I don't know if Dunya LC works due to how much Dunya advocated for LC d1

• LP LC could work?
  • I didn't think this was the case based on LPP re LC
  • This would explain LC's vote.
    • LC's vote only has impact if someone they would have preferred to not be last second wagon'd was also being voted
    • This would also place LC's vote on the person voting their teammate if true

• Dunya LPP?
  • Dunya hasn't really said anything on LPP's slot
  • LPP has recently voiced a strong suspicion of Dunya

So, Dunya is only plausible with LPP but I'm not feeling it. If both wolves were on SVS it's LC/LPP. It's probably just MOST likely that there was only 1 wolf on the wagon and I don't think that solo/non voter was Abigail or Roxy.

Falc and one of Dunya/LPP/LC it is.

I'm town tho, Syn told me so personally

What do you think about the pairings in the SVS voters I present and your thoughts on Roxy/Abi then?

Roxy feels genuinely solving to me, I won't vote her this RD


Abby could be Town or Maf, I don't feel she's done anything to distinguish her alignment really


Both LPP & LC, IIRC, have the blurst reasons for voting SVS, and I agree w/ not feeling LPP/Dunya as teammates


LC, Abby, LPP I feel we've def got 1, potentially both

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:02 pm lol, is there a world where PA + LC is theatre?

Yes

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:01 pm Just looking at the SVS voters and I think LC looks the worst?

Dunya was very clear in the suspicion.
LPP didn't have much re SVS but there was something in there regarding WW banter between Falcon and SVS.
LC kinda just reappeared and shot from the hip.

Seemed apologetic about his vote as well, and the turn around on his Abby take seemed as unnecessary as the take was to begin with

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 7:01 pm Falcon is the other nonvoter. I think he is a more likely hit as a Wolf. I think he pocketed Abigail.

Interesting

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:40 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:19 pm See, this is what happens. People get out of the habit of checking Mafia.

I don't think I am ready to townread Wilgy yet. His first major involvement was one of the earlier discussion points of the game, but the more I think about it, the more it's like "it takes about five seconds to dismiss this idea if you really think about it. So why do I feel like it kept kinda getting brought up?

The angle I'm looking at is Wolf Wilgy cleverly plants an "I'm involved and analyzing" sounding idea and then, by the time he's done responding to everyone that comments on it, he's got a nice little library of non-fluff posts, and some respect for trying out an angle on events.

This all makes sense to me, but that doesn't mean it's true. Maybe a look at Wilgy's posts with that in mind. It's only the paper-thin premise, realized after really thinking about it, that makes me suspicious.

i don't hate this analysis

i also didn't like wilgy's vote on falcon. do you think wilgy would bus in a small racket on d1?

One vote isn't a bus, it's basic distancing.

Funny, I was thinking something similar


You mentioned that Abby had no whimsical TRs, and had dove into detective work. Would you mind quoting the posts of hers you felt were "detective work"?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:38 am falcon villaging is still something I feel good about btw

Pour quoi?

I can't be assed to read right now

Vote: Roxy

Okay byeeee

lol

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:23 pmYou mentioned that Abby had no whimsical TRs, and had dove into detective work. Would you mind quoting the posts of hers you felt were "detective work"?

Here's a handful:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:06 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:19 pm See, this is what happens. People get out of the habit of checking Mafia.

I don't think I am ready to townread Wilgy yet. His first major involvement was one of the earlier discussion points of the game, but the more I think about it, the more it's like "it takes about five seconds to dismiss this idea if you really think about it. So why do I feel like it kept kinda getting brought up?

The angle I'm looking at is Wolf Wilgy cleverly plants an "I'm involved and analyzing" sounding idea and then, by the time he's done responding to everyone that comments on it, he's got a nice little library of non-fluff posts, and some respect for trying out an angle on events.

This all makes sense to me, but that doesn't mean it's true. Maybe a look at Wilgy's posts with that in mind. It's only the paper-thin premise, realized after really thinking about it, that makes me suspicious.

What is the difference between me analyzing as town and me faking it? This feels like a 'Wilgy's doing things' without much further analysis.

Further, while yeah my first major thing was noticing jankyness around your slot, and I've even gotten off that idea, what is leading you to your thinking that it's important?

Pretty sure I've already answered those questions. I said why I became suspicious. I didn't say it's important, you brought up that notion, but it is important, generally, to share suspicions when you have them.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:08 am Dunya changing tones on me the moment someone else expresses concern is gross.

Dunya expressed concerns about your falcon vote before I mentioned anything about you.

Well, usually the evening in Eastern Standard Time is buzzin'. I work Tues-Sat so this is it for me today and tomorrow. Then a three-day weekend so I'll try to mix it up, I saw Wilgy and falcon online for like three hours in the middle of the day so I'll try to hit that timeslot up for some interaction or whatever.

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:15 pmlol

I'm being a liability just for you

I don't believe that I live in your head even close to that much.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:28 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:38 am falcon villaging is still something I feel good about btw

Pour quoi?

Parce que.

Mostly because you D1 play didn't feel agenda driven and there was the good mix of inquiries and paranoïa in your posting, at least for me. (re your posts toward Roxy and Abigail)

As I said late D1, the fact u kept on being sus on LC despite the whole thread telling u it was rand>>town sounds town to me.

@Roxy I think the answer to your question is a couple of posts below the one u quoted. @ me if you want me to come back to it.

re my vote on SVS:

I didn't trust her while most of her posts were just meta, and sponged dunya and wilgy. The fact she voted me without actual reason wasn't to change my mind and I saw no reason to vote elsewhere afterward.

that was wrong but I felt pretty good about it at time.

@Princess Abigail: can u walk me through your progression on LC D1?

think ama iso wilgy, I saw colors

oh but before, something I really need to put itt:

i've got a pretty long case detailing the last wolves in the game that is focused on the game from a deepwolf perspective. its more legacy than anything but i wanted to use this post to emphasize that, should I die, this post should not be ignored. please please please do not ignore this upcoming post.

i don't think it is worth using KP to go down this path yet, but should we end up in a worst case scenario of having gone 0/2 or maybe just 1/2 on the D1/D2 lunchs, then please please please give my case a hard look. if i'm wrong on dunya and you guys are just correct on LC/Abi then i'll look pretty silly but that's OK cause we won. if not, follow my lead.

alright, having said that:

Wilgy ISO looks solvey but the amount of associative reads in there while we have no red aorn is something that gets me uncomfy. looks like busy work.

@DrWilgy EOD is 5 minutes, who do you vote?

not to mention most of it is way above my head lol. (some excluded assos for instance but heh)

also like why is Roxy town for u Doc?

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:48 am Wilgy ISO looks solvey but the amount of associative reads in there while we have no red aorn is something that gets me uncomfy. looks like busy work.

@DrWilgy EOD is 5 minutes, who do you vote?

ok just noticed Roxy actually asked for the last one, might have been uncharitable here. I am under the feeling it's something u do a lot then (didn't recall from the couple of games we played here though)

In the midst of YaYa time heading to the corn maze.
Voting now for lpp

It's my strongest vibe. I'll try and step back in but tbh it's v unlikely

Also forgot to say thanks to PA

i have some ketchup to do. sorry for my abesence, my cousin works in the UN in beirut and i haven't heard back from him asking if he's ok and i feel guilty to be playing a mafia game in the midst of that somehow lol.

i have 3 hours to engage and will do so.

What are the odds Wolves have not voted yet?



[VOTE: lpp] aubergine

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:31 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:15 pmlol

I'm being a liability just for you

Long Con wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 9:50 am I don't believe that I live in your head even close to that much.

if this is theater, then i've been out of the game for too long. i wouldn't do this sort of thing with my teammate so i'm confident lc/abbi are never teammates and if i'm wrong, i'm ok to be wrong about that.

still think LC is always town for me. he could have easily latched onto wilgy's omgus suspicion of me, but he didn't. in fact, it would have been the better play if he was wolf to suspect the person who is town reading him. could have gained a lot of momentum on me and i would have been an easy misyeet especially since rask/petit poussin also came in strong against me.

on the other end, abbi also didn't take advantage of that and voted left field roxy, so lc and abbi for me today are town.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:42 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:36 am look it's mostly a thought I had overnight considering how D1 played out.

dunya was very adamant to wolf reading SVS and shielding you... when you and another player (Roxy? falcon?) specifically posted your play wasn't actually AI and you'd that as a wolf too. The timing of your return itt was kinda puzzling too though I am kinda not factoring it.

i don't care what someone else finds nai if i feel it is ai tbh.

good for you

how do you feel about the fact he did nothing the whole day (but an Halloween kit or pie whatever lol)?

i'll answer you after you tell me why you connected me and LC as teammates

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine for now

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 11:20 am oh but before, something I really need to put itt:

i've got a pretty long case detailing the last wolves in the game that is focused on the game from a deepwolf perspective. its more legacy than anything but i wanted to use this post to emphasize that, should I die, this post should not be ignored. please please please do not ignore this upcoming post.

i don't think it is worth using KP to go down this path yet, but should we end up in a worst case scenario of having gone 0/2 or maybe just 1/2 on the D1/D2 lunchs, then please please please give my case a hard look. if i'm wrong on dunya and you guys are just correct on LC/Abi then i'll look pretty silly but that's OK cause we won. if not, follow my lead.

alright, having said that:

what is your case? i can't see the case against me, sorry. it's about hard defending LC and scum reading svs?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:12 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine for now

Who's Wilgy's teammate?

Roxy wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 10:37 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 4:23 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Oct 10, 2024 9:19 pm See, this is what happens. People get out of the habit of checking Mafia.

I don't think I am ready to townread Wilgy yet. His first major involvement was one of the earlier discussion points of the game, but the more I think about it, the more it's like "it takes about five seconds to dismiss this idea if you really think about it. So why do I feel like it kept kinda getting brought up?

The angle I'm looking at is Wolf Wilgy cleverly plants an "I'm involved and analyzing" sounding idea and then, by the time he's done responding to everyone that comments on it, he's got a nice little library of non-fluff posts, and some respect for trying out an angle on events.

This all makes sense to me, but that doesn't mean it's true. Maybe a look at Wilgy's posts with that in mind. It's only the paper-thin premise, realized after really thinking about it, that makes me suspicious.

i don't hate this analysis

i also didn't like wilgy's vote on falcon. do you think wilgy would bus in a small racket on d1?

Yes I believe that ANY one of us is capable of bussing a teamie on D 1.

What do you make of the SVS voters?

Who kills Lime in this game? And why?

Do YOU think Wigly would bus a teamie D 1?

i would never kill lime coke on d1. he's my buddie, he joined the game just to play with me (yes, emotional manipulation blablabla ;p). i don't think anyone but abigail was side eyeing lime coke, so he could have just been the easy kill off to keep as much suspicious players in the game as possible. everyone else is a suspect for someone else as is evident by our votes atm 3 hours until eod.

i think bussing anyone on d1 in a 9player game, or even hard engaging with your teammate on d1 the way lc and abbi did, isn't something i'd do personally. while i have bussed, as anyone probably has, it's really my least fav method of playing as mafia. we're powerful in our numbers, and when it's 2vs7, i definitely value my partner a lot. but on reflection, falcon wasn't exactly under a lot of heat and it could have been distancing vs. hard bussing. it may have been distancing leading up to a hard bus to win at end game. i'm not ruling it out. falcon and wilgy absolutely have teammate potential. but so do wilgy and abigail...their banter unlike lc and abigail, felt a little....theatrical? so does wilgy and lpp tbh. i could see wilgy in a lot of partnerships.

ftr, i don't get scummy vibes from you. i'm also unsure if this is our first game together. i sucked reading svs for the first time, so hopefully i don't suck reading you too lol.

Roxy wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 12:54 pm In the midst of YaYa time heading to the corn maze.
Voting now for lpp

It's my strongest vibe. I'll try and step back in but tbh it's v unlikely

sorry, from isoing you, i don't know why lpp is your strongest vibe care to elaborate ?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:17 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:12 pm [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine for now

Who's Wilgy's teammate?

you, lpp or abbi imo.

if i had to believe one wolf voted for SVS, i'll say it's lpp. if the svs misyeet was pure, then damn.

if lc pocketed me, then hats off to you sir and you live up to your baddie rep one more day.

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:29 pm if lc pocketed me, then hats off to you sir and you live up to your baddie rep one more day.

Why are you so locked in on LC being Town given his baddie rep?

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:08 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:42 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:36 am look it's mostly a thought I had overnight considering how D1 played out.

dunya was very adamant to wolf reading SVS and shielding you... when you and another player (Roxy? falcon?) specifically posted your play wasn't actually AI and you'd that as a wolf too. The timing of your return itt was kinda puzzling too though I am kinda not factoring it.

i don't care what someone else finds nai if i feel it is ai tbh.

good for you

how do you feel about the fact he did nothing the whole day (but an Halloween kit or pie whatever lol)?

i'll answer you after you tell me why you connected me and LC as teammates

I didnt? I said there are one in the two of you.

Just in case u missed it, this is a shitpost copypasta lol.

Sorry I have friends at home so u will get phone posting from me

@Le petit poussin what are your thoughts on abigail. you seem confused by them, but don't really follow up on that with an opinion i notice. are you town reading them or not?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:29 pm if lc pocketed me, then hats off to you sir and you live up to your baddie rep one more day.

Why are you so locked in on LC being Town given his baddie rep?

i think eod 1 locked it in, with the vote. he didn't need to vote svs to misyeet. he could have easily sat eod out and claimed he missed eod time... svs was already going through as the misyeet, no one else was even at 2 votes, let alone three. i dont see any purpose for it and it wasn't like he had a big case against svs and was following through with it.

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:33 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:08 pm

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:42 am

dunya wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:25 am

Le petit poussin wrote: ↑Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:36 am look it's mostly a thought I had overnight considering how D1 played out.

dunya was very adamant to wolf reading SVS and shielding you... when you and another player (Roxy? falcon?) specifically posted your play wasn't actually AI and you'd that as a wolf too. The timing of your return itt was kinda puzzling too though I am kinda not factoring it.

i don't care what someone else finds nai if i feel it is ai tbh.

good for you

how do you feel about the fact he did nothing the whole day (but an Halloween kit or pie whatever lol)?

i'll answer you after you tell me why you connected me and LC as teammates

I didnt? I said there are one in the two of you.

Just in case u missed it, this is a shitpost copypasta lol.

i did miss that.

ok, why is there one in me and lc and why do you think it's more likely me than lc?

why did you feel you had to write a whole legacy post about me? what's the case against me @Le petit poussin

enjoy your friends! im sure they understand your need to mafia ;p

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:36 pm @Le petit poussin what are your thoughts on abigail. you seem confused by them, but don't really follow up on that with an opinion i notice. are you town reading them or not?

I am mostly waiting for them to reply to my post about LC? Because rn they are pretty much null. They did nothing solving wise afaik. I did think D1 they would prolly come in more annoyed and ATEing D1 as a wolf but that kinda slim for a tr aorn.
I will vote them if I have to self press or something. Prolly not falcon who I TR. (Lol the vote though)
Roxy looks twtbaw to me. Like she is hyper focused on why LC was NKed and most of her posts are descriptive and almost devoluted of conclusions. Look, i am topwagon and noone has expressed a reason to vote me. I am kinda confused about it bit prolly wont have the time tonparse it or fight back.

Glgl me

dunya wrote: ↑Sat Oct 12, 2024 1:40 pm
enjoy your friends! im sure they understand your need to mafia ;p

They dont but I am sure Ill have an enjoyable time still!