The Syndicate

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:08 pm If y’all are confident enough I do not mind a hammer without my input.

I'm relatively confident. It'd be great to hear what you think of SoA's brief appearance today though. Last page or two.

Good morning ya'll

top er de mernin ter ya

juliets tells me that "ya'll" is the correct spelling, but every device I have tried to autocorrect it to "y'all".

I distanced myself from the thread for a bit, and it felt wundervoll

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:12 pm juliets tells me that "ya'll" is the correct spelling, but every device I have tried to autocorrect it to "y'all".

You all
You all
Y’all

I think the key is in the pronunciation, and perhaps even the geography.

The Kentucky y'all is definitely "y'all". It abbreviates a sort of "ye all" instead of "you all". Maybe Alabama does it differently.

Son of Anarch wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 11:13 am Like... I don't get why you guys are going for me specifically is the thing and I'm worried it might be scum motivated. I even saw Jimmy askin' for an early hammer just now once Sloonei returned.

Tbh, I've talked about you and tried to ping you with questions since the start of Day 2, and haven't heard any responses to them, so what's a marmot to do?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:15 pm I think the key is in the pronunciation, and perhaps even the geography.

The Kentucky y'all is definitely "y'all". It abbreviates a sort of "ye all" instead of "you all". Maybe Alabama does it differently.

"ye all" sounds like a Medieval attempt of this pronoun

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:14 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:12 pm juliets tells me that "ya'll" is the correct spelling, but every device I have tried to autocorrect it to "y'all".

You all
You all
Y’all

That's what I been saying!

Verily ye all

I'm glad we cleared that up.

It can feasibly be "ya'll" if "you" is often pronounced as "ya".

The Kentucky "ye" is more of the classical old man form. What? I can't hear yeh -- rather than the "ye" of Shakespeare.

Nanook has to open the thread every time he sees a new post in case it's a hammer. But it's y'all chatter.

I'm not very inspired by SoA's presence today. He starts off by trying to argue with JJJ's solve as a ludicrous approach, but didn't give us anything to work with outside of JJJ's solve. He did try to discredit JJJ and Sloonei, but Sloonei is confirmed town at this point and JJJ is Sloonei.

Outside of that, SoA voted Dolby as the counterwagon. Fine. SoA also pointed a finger at falcon. K.

Did he voice any other suspicions that I missed?

I think the last couple pages are out of a Shakespeare play.

I'm ready to hammer. I don't think we're gonna accomplish anything else today.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:25 pm I'm not very inspired by SoA's presence today. He starts off by trying to argue with JJJ's solve as a ludicrous approach, but didn't give us anything to work with outside of JJJ's solve. He did try to discredit JJJ and Sloonei, but Sloonei is confirmed town at this point and JJJ is Sloonei.

Outside of that, SoA voted Dolby as the counterwagon. Fine. SoA also pointed a finger at falcon. K.

Did he voice any other suspicions that I missed?

Just checked, and during today's brief return no I don't see other suspicions.

Johanna wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:27 pm I think the last couple pages are out of a Shakespeare play.

Spoiler: show

Much Ado About Nothing

As Ya'll Like It

Any final parting takes or wisdom, @Sloonei?

If you guys want to hammer, you can. If you don’t, I’ll ISO at least SoA and dolby, maybe a couple others if I can/anyone cares. But my time is limited and I trust the town here.

[VOTE: Son of Anarch] aubergine

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sat Sep 18, 2021 12:29 pm Any final parting takes or wisdom, @Sloonei?

We’re playing the game on hard mode now, but I think the work that has been put in is great. Continue to listen to people, continue to develop ideas, but don’t throw away Days 1-3.

spf is gay

Bye @Son of Anarch it was a pleasure playing with you!!

Thread locked, no more posting

Soa (6): tsp, dolby, Marmot, Johanna, axe, Jay
Dolby (3): ilario, sloon, soa
G-man (1): falcon
Not voting (2): g-man, dizzy

@Son of Anarch flips Counselor, MAFIA goon



Sloonei has died from poison and flips hot misogynist, Town Delayed Watcher



SOD is in about 24 hours

@JaggedJimmyJay has been poisoned and will die at eod

Eod is september 21, 1pm edt. Hammer is at 5

@dolby
@Dyslexicon
@falcon45ca
@G-Man
@ilario
@Johanna
@Marmot
@NotAnAxehole
@TonyStarkPrime

>:[

>:[

JJJ is town

SoA was a hit

Ok, that makes things a lot more straightforward.

Dolby, are you SoA's teammate?

This is what I was working on Saturday morning while [REDACTED BECAUSE RL EXCUSES DON'T CUT IT AT THIS POINT]. I checked the game thread after finishing my SOA review (likely story, right?) and saw that you folks went for the hammer. Good that we got a baddie, but the new timing for EOD really sucks becuase [REDACTED BECAUSE RL EXCUSES DON'T CUT IT AT THIS POINT]. I can only guarantee my availability through tonight. Anyway, my ISO results:


Tough-talking, stick-waving NAA hasn't changed in my mind. He's abbrasive but also productive with his jabs. I can't say he's my third person to bet the game on, but he's as close to a third that I've got right now. The way he has appraoched, trolled, and needled JJJ seems like something that a baddie wouldn't do if they have teammates who have experience with Jay. The fact that Jay hasn't completely launched into NAA and cut him down to size tells me that Jay doesn't find any of it to be so contrived or over-the-top that he sees the framwork of fabrication.




The big frustration I have with SOA still is that there are posts where he writes quite a bit to say not very much. It keeps his post count up and looks like he's contributing, but after half of his ISO, I dreaded seeing any of his posts with two or more big paragraphs. It feels like filler and I don't like it.

POST-FLIP REVISIT (I fell asleep around 10:30 this morning)- Wow, he came into D3 all squirmy and desperate. Sorry I missed it.

Mafia really hated that triad lol

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:29 pmThe big frustration I have with SOA still is that there are posts where he writes quite a bit to say not very much. It keeps his post count up and looks like he's contributing, but after half of his ISO, I dreaded seeing any of his posts with two or more big paragraphs. It feels like filler and I don't like it.

POST-FLIP REVISIT (I fell asleep around 10:30 this morning)- Wow, he came into D3 all squirmy and desperate. Sorry I missed it.

Who's next in line for you?

TonyStarkPrime continues to be someone that I struggle to read. I think his body of work here in this game comes across as more civ for me, but I can't help but tinfoil a little bit. He fits into that sort of "*shrug* town" slot that could could be a smart baddie. The fact that Sloonei didn't blast Tony as a parting gift to the town makes me feel just good enough to elevate him above a null read. Even reading through his ISO post-flip, I don't think I picked up on anything that might connect him to SOA.




Tweaking my previous groupings based on my latest ISO readthroughs leaves me with these tiers:

Bet The Game On Them Being Town:
-Dizzy
-Marmot


MOST LIKELY TOWN
-NAA


TOWN ENOUGH, BUT MINOR TINFOIL CONCERN:
-Ilario
-Tony


TINFOIL-LEVEL BADDIE SUS
-JJJ
-Johanna


PRETTY SURE YOU'RE JUST BAD
-Dolby
-Falcon



Now I need to read through SOA's ISO again. At least this time I know that all his verbosity was an attempt at baddie cover.



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And in light of JJJ's poisoning, I have to modify that list again. JJJ would never allow teammates to off him or themselves in this sort of scenario just for the mindscrew after losing a member the day before. Keep your numbers advantage in a game this tilted in the mafia's favor from the get-go. I guess JJJ was just the least-threatening member of the triad.

I still have Marmot, Ilario and NAA as town. And probably Johanna. So ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Wait, does G-Man as scum not realise that TSP claimed Fruit Vendor lol

I guess that could happen as any alignment

Like, if anyone else has the Fruit Vendor role, the time to cc was a long time ago

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:33 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:29 pmThe big frustration I have with SOA still is that there are posts where he writes quite a bit to say not very much. It keeps his post count up and looks like he's contributing, but after half of his ISO, I dreaded seeing any of his posts with two or more big paragraphs. It feels like filler and I don't like it.

POST-FLIP REVISIT (I fell asleep around 10:30 this morning)- Wow, he came into D3 all squirmy and desperate. Sorry I missed it.

Who's next in line for you?

The first name to cross my lips is Falcon, since he's been in my POE the longest out of him and Dolby. Falcon has been long on name-dropping, but short on reasons for tr and sus.

Maybe we ought to do another round of trustfall and distrustfall?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:38 pm Like, if anyone else has the Fruit Vendor role, the time to cc was a long time ago

LINKI: The trouble with fruit vendor is that it's now a claim that's impossible to vet (short of a chop) with Sloonei's death. I don't know that any counterclaims will really push the game forward, especially since Sloonei already claimed whom he targeted. That's easy to work around now.

The fruit vendor should have claimed yesterday if it wasn't TSP. If anyone cc's at this point, we kinda have to yeet them first, because we only have one more misyeet available.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:45 pmLINKI: The trouble with fruit vendor is that it's now a claim that's impossible to vet (short of a chop) with Sloonei's death. I don't know that any counterclaims will really push the game forward, especially since Sloonei already claimed whom he targeted. That's easy to work around now.

There is no trouble. There is a known fruit vendor in the game. TSP has claimed it. If anyone else has the role, they must 100% come out and say it.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:51 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:45 pmLINKI: The trouble with fruit vendor is that it's now a claim that's impossible to vet (short of a chop) with Sloonei's death. I don't know that any counterclaims will really push the game forward, especially since Sloonei already claimed whom he targeted. That's easy to work around now.

There is no trouble. There is a known fruit vendor in the game. TSP has claimed it. If anyone else has the role, they must 100% come out and say it.

That would present a distraction though, when we can be analyzing SOA's ISO for breadcrumbs and clues. Anyone claiming fruit vendor now is just going to set up a battle between two players that can only be vetted by chopping one or the other. I think too much information has hit the thread for us to try to reason out the veracity of a counterclaim.

Well, if someone claims fruit vendor today

1) That was a mistake to wait until today

2) I'm voting for them immediately


We have little margin for error, I agree G-Man. But we also can't just ignore it if someone claims. If TSP is actually mafia and not the real fruit vendor, we lose if they don't claim (or we wait until they flip from a nightkill or something)

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:56 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:51 pm

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 2:45 pmLINKI: The trouble with fruit vendor is that it's now a claim that's impossible to vet (short of a chop) with Sloonei's death. I don't know that any counterclaims will really push the game forward, especially since Sloonei already claimed whom he targeted. That's easy to work around now.

There is no trouble. There is a known fruit vendor in the game. TSP has claimed it. If anyone else has the role, they must 100% come out and say it.

That would present a distraction though, when we can be analyzing SOA's ISO for breadcrumbs and clues. Anyone claiming fruit vendor now is just going to set up a battle between two players that can only be vetted by chopping one or the other. I think too much information has hit the thread for us to try to reason out the veracity of a counterclaim.

I think you're missing my point. TSP is confirmed town as long as nobody counters. Do you disagree with this?

You absolutely HAVE TO CLAIM if you are fruit vendor.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:07 pm Well, if someone claims fruit vendor today

1) That was a mistake to wait until today

2) I'm voting for them immediately


We have little margin for error, I agree G-Man. But we also can't just ignore it if someone claims. If TSP is actually mafia and not the real fruit vendor, we lose if they don't claim (or we wait until they flip from a nightkill or something)

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:08 pm You absolutely HAVE TO CLAIM if you are fruit vendor.

This makes it sound like both of you want the fruit vendor (if not TSP) to claim and likely get chopped just to verify TSP's claim. Just because there is no counter-claim for fruit vendor doesn't necessarily mean that TSP is confirmed. He's still going to just be the presumed fruit vendor. I get where your minds are running with this, as a counterclaim now would force us to reevaluate and possibly reform the POE. I just think the day will be more constructive if we try to pick apart the known baddie's ISO rather than sweating over the neutered fruit vendor.

G-Man wrote: ↑Sun Sep 19, 2021 3:16 pmThis makes it sound like both of you want the fruit vendor (if not TSP) to claim and likely get chopped just to verify TSP's claim.

Yes.
If you are fruit vendor, you know TSP is scum, and by not claiming, you're making a huge mistake.
Are you fruit vendor?