The Syndicate

Thank you Aro!!! Your legacy will live on! So long as I live, I will fill the game with One Piece and wonder!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:55 pm

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:38 pm Hm I'm not feeling an Aro elim. His coming into the game discussing hypotheticals not related to the game seem chillax and the sort of content I think wolf Aro would avoid. In other words, he'd be more in try hard mode and thus be sticking to game content. I also really like his insta town read on Wisp when Wisp is someone scum!Aro could have just waited to see how reads on him shaped out to be. And I think this post has signs of a town perspective:

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:28 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:27 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:25 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:24 am

I believe some of the players that have entered the game so far when they are town, are really good and can help win the game.

And so far, I have a couple of leaning tr on some slots that I view as +EV for town if they are actually town. So I feel like the direction of this game will be in good hands.

Who are you leaning town on?

Spoiler: show

Mac, Illario, Wisp

You are leaning town on the person who made what you described as a wolfy dichotomy?

Let me clarify, I mean the dichotomy is "wolf-siding" because I know I am town and I have a light tr on Wisp.

I have Illario lightly town for some of his earlier interjections with u and how he came into the game to start trying to understand your town reads. Demonstrates to me he is already focused on forming that "town core."

Making a "wolfy" dichotamy != player is scummy if that makes sense lol

Mainly because it remains objective about Illario. I think scum who initially made the post about Illario making a wolfy dichotomy would probably continue to push that Illario-wolf narrative.

*violently and spontaneously vomits on your shirt*

Bow before me mortal. I am the mafia god now.

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:28 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:32 pm nook hardpushing on alison but then shifting to wisp and saying "it's fine to kill him anyway" after he self-voted is outing for nook in a world where alison and wisp are V/V, bcuz it means he has done nothing today but wolfside and nook is generally not a wolfsider

maybe it isn't actually "outing" for nook but i think it would increase his maf/3p equity quite a bit

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 7:34 pm actually i take back whatever i said about nook being outed wolf, i just think he is most likely wolfsiding quite a bit today and that this increases his wolf equity by default

She was basing that read on a poor understanding of what I had actually done in thread lol

What's your reads right now Chamo?

And yes I don't care that you probably are putting my name in the scumleans.

Porscha, if I can ask you to ignore the Mac posts for now and just do whatever solving you can around irl?

I believe that if you are town I can find you today based on how you go about the game, but I need you to not get stuck in a shitfest with Mac for that.

mac: thought aro was a wolf and loudly proclaimed it

mac today: it was all dya and alison

when i voted aro, nobody wanted to join me. It wasn't until other players saw how aro was playing and voted that the wagon took off. but it's somehow all my fault

mac's still probably town though. in fact I think this makes him more likely town

The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:05 pm mac: thought aro was a wolf and loudly proclaimed it

mac today: it was all dya and alison

when i voted aro, nobody wanted to join me. It wasn't until other players saw how aro was playing and voted that the wagon took off. but it's somehow all my fault

mac's still probably town though. in fact I think this makes him more likely town

I sense your attempt to influence a negative perception towards me and I am sorry I made you feel so much hate towards me that you would do this. I have nil but love for you in my heart and your hurt makes me feel sorrow. I wish you all the very best.

Chamomile wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:59 pm Thank you Aro!!! Your legacy will live on! So long as I live, I will fill the game with One Piece and wonder!

MacDougall wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:55 pm

Chamomile wrote: ↑Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:38 pm Hm I'm not feeling an Aro elim. His coming into the game discussing hypotheticals not related to the game seem chillax and the sort of content I think wolf Aro would avoid. In other words, he'd be more in try hard mode and thus be sticking to game content. I also really like his insta town read on Wisp when Wisp is someone scum!Aro could have just waited to see how reads on him shaped out to be. And I think this post has signs of a town perspective:

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:31 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:28 am

arogame123 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:27 am

Alison wrote: ↑Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:25 am
Who are you leaning town on?

Spoiler: show

Mac, Illario, Wisp

You are leaning town on the person who made what you described as a wolfy dichotomy?

Let me clarify, I mean the dichotomy is "wolf-siding" because I know I am town and I have a light tr on Wisp.

I have Illario lightly town for some of his earlier interjections with u and how he came into the game to start trying to understand your town reads. Demonstrates to me he is already focused on forming that "town core."

Making a "wolfy" dichotamy != player is scummy if that makes sense lol

Mainly because it remains objective about Illario. I think scum who initially made the post about Illario making a wolfy dichotomy would probably continue to push that Illario-wolf narrative.

*violently and spontaneously vomits on your shirt*

Bow before me mortal. I am the mafia god now.

I welcome new deities into my pantheon. I just hope you are more God of Truth, Love and Justice than God of Mischief and Confusion.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:13 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:05 pm mac: thought aro was a wolf and loudly proclaimed it

mac today: it was all dya and alison

when i voted aro, nobody wanted to join me. It wasn't until other players saw how aro was playing and voted that the wagon took off. but it's somehow all my fault

mac's still probably town though. in fact I think this makes him more likely town

I sense your attempt to influence a negative perception towards me and I am sorry I made you feel so much hate towards me that you would do this. I have nil but love for you in my heart and your hurt makes me feel sorrow. I wish you all the very best.

you must have missed the part where I called you town

I just find your process very level 0

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:52 pm I have skill issue mac I missed it idk how to read

It is fine you Grassling. We all have our strengths and our weaknesses.

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:16 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:13 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:05 pm mac: thought aro was a wolf and loudly proclaimed it

mac today: it was all dya and alison

when i voted aro, nobody wanted to join me. It wasn't until other players saw how aro was playing and voted that the wagon took off. but it's somehow all my fault

mac's still probably town though. in fact I think this makes him more likely town

I sense your attempt to influence a negative perception towards me and I am sorry I made you feel so much hate towards me that you would do this. I have nil but love for you in my heart and your hurt makes me feel sorrow. I wish you all the very best.

you must have missed the part where I called you town

I just find your process very level 0

*Breathes*

I understand why you feel this way.

I appreciate Mac's new persona

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:17 pm

santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 7:52 pm I have skill issue mac I missed it idk how to read

It is fine young Grassling. We all have our strengths and our weaknesses.

In my haste to offer you comfort I mistyped

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:18 pm I appreciate Mac's new persona

How very kind. It is a lovely feeling to be appreciated.

So is this a new meta Mac?

porscha feels like she's playing up the I dont want to read thing

Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

Top townreads?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:22 pm So is this a new meta Mac?

I suppose it is a response to a recent game devolving into dystopia and a concern of this one doing the same.

Our departed friend Arogame only left us a request to not lose our minds and to stay the course. It is a beautiful last will to leave. Stoicism while looking upon one's own demise is honourable indeed.

Is it bad that this new outlook makes me townread Mac harder?

Yes.

But also I'm doing it.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

Top townreads?

At this very second my mind is flux on the alignment of all.

I am more transfixed upon reasons to distrust than to trust for reasons beyond my control.

So I suppose my current behaviour is as much a self control mechanism as anything.

I think Belzy, Lilypetal, Nanook, Ender, Santygrass would be players I'd have more significant reasons to townread if pressed.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

Top townreads?

At this very second my mind is flux on the alignment of all.

I am more transfixed upon reasons to distrust than to trust for reasons beyond my control.

So I suppose my current behaviour is as much a self control mechanism as anything.

I think Belzy, Lilypetal, Nanook, Ender, Santygrass would be players I'd have more significant reasons to townread if pressed.

why?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:10 pm The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

Mac ur a salty bitch that thrives on strife and angst like an Australian chaos goblin

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:10 pm The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

Mac ur a salty bitch that thrives on strife and angst like an Australian chaos goblin

Rondo is the Australian Chaos Goblin and I will brook no contender.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:31 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:10 pm The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

Mac ur a salty bitch that thrives on strife and angst like an Australian chaos goblin

Rondo is the Australian Chaos Goblin and I will brook no contender.

Damn good point tbh

Ok mac you've been demoted to chaos minion, sorry bud

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

Top townreads?

At this very second my mind is flux on the alignment of all.

I am more transfixed upon reasons to distrust than to trust for reasons beyond my control.

So I suppose my current behaviour is as much a self control mechanism as anything.

I think Belzy, Lilypetal, Nanook, Ender, Santygrass would be players I'd have more significant reasons to townread if pressed.

why?

Do you have disagreement on anyone in particular?

I think vocalising the reasons why I read certain people certain ways often holds limited value as the way I think tends to invite needless rebuke at times. But if we have a point of disagreement, or you need to see the reasons in order to qualify whether I am not simply making things up, I can permit it.

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:10 pm The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

Mac ur a salty bitch that thrives on strife and angst like an Australian chaos goblin

I appreciate your attempt at humour.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:34 pm

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:28 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:24 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:23 pm Friends this is a game of social deduction and deception. It is difficult to play it when people don't communicate. Go ahead and ask my perspective. My response will be as warm as a morning ray of sunshine and brighten your day.

Top townreads?

At this very second my mind is flux on the alignment of all.

I am more transfixed upon reasons to distrust than to trust for reasons beyond my control.

So I suppose my current behaviour is as much a self control mechanism as anything.

I think Belzy, Lilypetal, Nanook, Ender, Santygrass would be players I'd have more significant reasons to townread if pressed.

why?

Do you have disagreement on anyone in particular?

I think vocalising the reasons why I read certain people certain ways often holds limited value as the way I think tends to invite needless rebuke at times. But if we have a point of disagreement, or you need to see the reasons in order to qualify whether I am not simply making things up, I can permit it.

nanook, belzy are both not townreads of mine. I wouldnt go as far to call them wolf reads but I haven't been impressed so far

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:34 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:31 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:10 pm The best way we can honour the memories of our fallen loved ones is to maintain a pleasant environment of caring for ourselves and each other.

Deep breaths.

Trolling and insulting, even jokingly, and chaos posting will provoke irrational responses from townies. Calm lines of questioning, an open mind and kindness in all things.

This is the way.

Namaste.

Please don't approach me with anything but warmth and love or I will deny you access to my being.

Mac ur a salty bitch that thrives on strife and angst like an Australian chaos goblin

I appreciate your attempt at humour.

Ty for your validation

I think Nanook is town by virtue of Alison who is scumreading, townreading him to a degree. Or moreover not suspecting him. I think beyond that Nanook has not done anything outside of what I expect town Nanook to do and his day 1 play felt like someone who was not mindful of controlling the perception others have towards them.

Belzy is the player without information. At all times when they post they spew themselves without tmi.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:38 pm I think Nanook is town by virtue of Alison who is scumreading, townreading him to a degree. Or moreover not suspecting him. I think beyond that Nanook has not done anything outside of what I expect town Nanook to do and his day 1 play felt like someone who was not mindful of controlling the perception others have towards them.

Belzy is the player without information. At all times when they post they spew themselves without tmi.

say the first sentence in a different way, please. Im having trouble parsing what you mean

If Nanook was mafia I dont think Alison would have the read that they have on Nanook as either alignment. They are not w/w ever and if they are w/t only Alison makes sense as wolf due to their interactions.

I'm sring alison, alison is not sring me

I think?

Honestly not entirely sure

That is my point sir.

First check - Are you w/w. No. Nanook does not treat partner Alison the way he did d1. Strong read.

Can it be t/w - Yes. But if it was t/w it makes less sense to be Alison t Nook. Alison is the one most likely to have the correct info. Wolf Nanook pushing town Alison is unlikely to produce this dynamic imo.

Can it be t/t - Also yes.

In all three scenarios Nanook is likely town.

And here my method was "Is Nanook acting like a Sussy Baka? Yes? Then he's town."

Sus me daddy

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

seanzie why did you do a 180 on millium yesterday? was it just for reactions?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:32 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:25 pm

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 pm [VOTE: Macdougall] aubergine

My dear Seanzie what have I done to earn your ire?

I'm not sure yet, but I have a bad feeling.

@EnderWiggin Seanzie is to Mac what Mac is to Ender.

Seanzie I understand. Do what you need to do. It will probably help if you were to ask me to explain things that you're curious about though. And if you have no curiosity but just a bad feeling that's ok.

Where would your vote be if it was EoD and your vote was the only one that counted, and why aren't you voting there now?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:12 pm Alison do be kinda outed lol.

How so?

is Nanook making bad posts with an agenda, not really
if there attention was to pick a target as a wolf, was to sus at least someone, and not get bounce back, I doubt they pick Alison

Alison IMO really twisted Aro's words last night, playing in this I am obvious town world, and Aro was bad for not knowing that. Thats how I read their play around EoD
to be fair though, I really thought Aro was bullshitting with that tied vote claim
then they immediately shift to, time to trust their reads
there is nothing wrong with listening to dead townies, but you usually focus on the dead townies who were night killed, over the ones that were mislynched
that's my opinion, so I find it a bit weird, especially when im used to Alison just shitting on play even after they are dead

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:39 pm @MacDougall i no longer fully TR neon btw for obvious reasons

@Lilypetal
can I ask what you expect from wolf!Porscha?

dyachei wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:30 pm seanzie why did you do a 180 on millium yesterday? was it just for reactions?

@Seanzie

did Seanzie 180 on me? I remember they had me as a town lean

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:41 pm

Lilypetal wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 6:39 pm @MacDougall i no longer fully TR neon btw for obvious reasons

haha

neon is townier in this game by a lot tho