The Syndicate

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:06 pm and also many of us were hope/expecting/actually not hoping for pyxxy to react to the current push on them, which they have yet to do, presumably they will do so after getting someplace convenient, and i have no plans of moving off until that happens

Ngl, if he does come back to the thread it's gonna be after I've gone to sleep
So I'm not holding my breath for that

Ok so Rondo and Gira followed me onto TSP, and Ran expressed that she wanted to but then decided to keep her vote on Dizzy as policy, which I can understand but don't think is great (policy killing someone you scumread less than an active slot you also scumread is not great).

Meanwhile I don't think the pyxxy voters look so bad, but then again I didn't think the first handful of Robyn voters looked so bad, either lol. Idk, I'm still trying to think this through in as little time as I can because I really do want to sleep.

I was about to ask about letting it rand but isnt TSP at +1 so it actually isnt a rand right now so no rand

pyxxy 85% town from this 5-post reading observer

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:14 pm I was about to ask about letting it rand but isnt TSP at +1 so it actually isnt a rand right now so no rand

Yeah there's no point cause of the extra votes
I mean we could rand around it but I think it's kinda pointless so we should just strive for a plurality

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:15 pm pyxxy 85% town from this 5-post reading observer

Do you disagree with Abbi's vote, then? Did you and Abbi talk at all in your hood about reads?

doing a thing [VOTE: Abi ] aubergine

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:15 pm pyxxy 85% town from this 5-post reading observer

Do you disagree with Abbi's vote, then? Did you and Abbi talk at all in your hood about reads?

I didnt know her vote is there, but pyxxy hard to read

and no we have not talked reads whatsoever

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:18 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:15 pm pyxxy 85% town from this 5-post reading observer

Do you disagree with Abbi's vote, then? Did you and Abbi talk at all in your hood about reads?

I didnt know her vote is there, but pyxxy hard to read

and no we have not talked reads whatsoever

Hmm. Ok

Have you talked about much at all in the hood? Don't need to know what about, just wondering if you guys have been actively interacting or not.

If I'm dead tonight, then could someone please look over Robyn's reads again? I think there's a chance there's something important there. I get that they were an easy push because they got crowded out of the thread by several simultaneous pushes, at least two of which I know were from town (Mac and me), but if there's any chance they posed a threat to wolves, I think it's worth looking into. I know Robyn can be a very strong town player when left alive in late game, so if wolves know that Robyn can catch them out, they would want to fan the flames on their wagon.

Is there anything else you want to ask me before I go to sleep, in case it's my last chance to answer it?

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 pm If I'm dead tonight, then could someone please look over Robyn's reads again? I think there's a chance there's something important there. I get that they were an easy push because they got crowded out of the thread by several simultaneous pushes, at least two of which I know were from town (Mac and me), but if there's any chance they posed a threat to wolves, I think it's worth looking into. I know Robyn can be a very strong town player when left alive in late game, so if wolves know that Robyn can catch them out, they would want to fan the flames on their wagon.

I know I will

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:27 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:26 pm If I'm dead tonight, then could someone please look over Robyn's reads again? I think there's a chance there's something important there. I get that they were an easy push because they got crowded out of the thread by several simultaneous pushes, at least two of which I know were from town (Mac and me), but if there's any chance they posed a threat to wolves, I think it's worth looking into. I know Robyn can be a very strong town player when left alive in late game, so if wolves know that Robyn can catch them out, they would want to fan the flames on their wagon.

I know I will

Awesome

Hell I can do it right now

But I won’t I gotta shower

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:29 pm But I won’t I gotta shower

Go shower lol

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:08 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:07 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:06 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:05 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:56 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 10:42 pm sources say a vote happened to land on robyn, although we haven't been able to corroborate the origin of said vote

how did you hear that it happened on me, and not abbie/rondo?

if I told you that I wrote this post as a joke, would you believe me

are u serious?

yep

the way you said it I thought you were joking/being weird so I wanted to politely mock the passive tone

i would never joke about mech (lie)

I dont like this

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:54 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:53 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:05 pm

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:02 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:01 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 7:59 pm Mac help people are asking me for reads and or content

me/wwa/leetic are town

solve from here

if you’re unsure of any name i’ve listed, read their iso and all shall become obvious

yes, i am telling you what to think

mac's town too

yes he's towny
yes he can play like this as wolf
yes reading him like town off this is like rolling the dice on one of the strongest wolves here

tldr you need to see more from him, ie results

isn't that what I said

i said something different

really dont like this

Current Votecount (just for analysis but I might move my vote in a minute):

Bereft 0
No votes

Dubz / RondoDimBuckle 1
Voters: TonyStarkPrime

Dyslexicon 3
Voters: Ranmilia, pyxxy, leetic

Gira 0
No votes

leetic 0
No votes

☆Princess Abigail☆ 1
Voters: RondoDimBuckle

pyxxy 3
Voters: tedxtr, ☆Princess Abigail☆, Bereft

Ran milia 0
No votes

tedxtr 0
No votes

TonyStarkPrime 2
Voters: Gira, WindwardAway

WindwardAway 0
No votes

No Elimination 0
No votes

No vote / Unvote 0
No votes

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:08 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 6:07 pm I think these wagons somewhat imply Rondo is mafia too though because if he was town I think the mafia would have tried to put emphasis on him by now.

Could also apply this logic to Bereft and to a lesser extent Pyxxy.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:20 am

pyxxy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 11:11 pm dang and I really like Bereft's play in this game

play ≠ substance for the record

I'm just a sucker for putting on airs

[VOTE: Bereft] aubergine

Nah dog this doesn't pass the vibe check at all. Like I kind of townread you til now but this is egregious.

mreh. mrf. mreh. mrf.

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:13 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push

idk probably rondo or something, i'd just go for whoever is the safest target, maybe pyxxy because i could probably get away with it. pushing mac would be a deathwish, i can't push wind because doing so would functionally out me, leetic would probably be fun to argue with but he's the type of player where as scum you let him tear apart the town for you, and i would probably try to avoid insomnia so that would limit my options pretty strongly.

i finished a recent scumgame on the org where i played like pure trash if you actually care about meta, was basically impossible for me to find a good push

I am seeing Gira + Pyxxy in this. Or am I just confbiased after the last few posts?

Oh oops I think I have been calling Leetic she, my bad if I have been.

I think the Dizzy wagon looks worse than the pyxxy wagon in terms of who's on it
Not like terribly worse but I get a slimy feeling from it, mainly because it seems primarily like a policy yeet so reasonably anyone could be on it and take no blame if Dizzy is town

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:28 pm i think you provide less content if you can get away with it. i'm not sure what you mean by the second question but i'm not sure what difference it makes.

do you think i should be reading you as town? if so, why?

you think content to sexual posts is indicative of my alignment

i am telling you i'm big game, can't be caught from such pedestrian methods such as a "twinktell"

i don't care what your read on me is really, but i will tell you if the reasoning is flawed, and this logic simply has no relation to my alignment. instead it depends on my mood

Did Gira answer this? I cant find it

Welp, back to the drawing board

Robyn why didnt you leave a classic reads list >:(

Oh thanks gira for replying, I see what you mean now. Hmmm.

If i vote TSP, TSP doesn't become lead wagon ugh.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 pm I think the Dizzy wagon looks worse than the pyxxy wagon in terms of who's on it
Not like terribly worse but I get a slimy feeling from it, mainly because it seems primarily like a policy yeet so reasonably anyone could be on it and take no blame if Dizzy is town

It is. The slime comes from the AtE. I'll take the blame. Any chance I can get you on it?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:32 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:28 pm i think you provide less content if you can get away with it. i'm not sure what you mean by the second question but i'm not sure what difference it makes.

do you think i should be reading you as town? if so, why?

you think content to sexual posts is indicative of my alignment

i am telling you i'm big game, can't be caught from such pedestrian methods such as a "twinktell"

i don't care what your read on me is really, but i will tell you if the reasoning is flawed, and this logic simply has no relation to my alignment. instead it depends on my mood

Did Gira answer this? I cant find it

Not sure if he did
Honestly my biggest issue with Gira is that I have massive recency bias on his posts
Every time he's in the thread I think he is saying reasonable things, and then when he's not, I start getting paranoia
And I don't really think that's good. Mac had Gira as strong town so my paranoia is very likely just paranoia, and I'm not sure the people who have been suggesting him as a wolf are actually super towny.
The one thing I will give is that Robyn had Gira as a scumread along with Bereft iirc, and once they dropped their push on Bereft, I think that basically only left Gira in their PoE.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:39 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:36 pm I think the Dizzy wagon looks worse than the pyxxy wagon in terms of who's on it
Not like terribly worse but I get a slimy feeling from it, mainly because it seems primarily like a policy yeet so reasonably anyone could be on it and take no blame if Dizzy is town

It is. The slime comes from the AtE. I'll take the blame. Any chance I can get you on it?

Yeah it does come from the AtE at least partially but I don't see why we can't just policy yeet him later if he doesn't commit to the game. Why does it have to be today?

And I know that's oddly phrased but I still have a glimmer of hope that we CAN discern his alignment, given a bit more time. Unless he actually never posts again, but I didn't interpret what he said to mean exactly that.

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:35 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push

Gira wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:13 pm

robyn wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 8:44 pm @Gira if you were mafia, who would u push

idk probably rondo or something, i'd just go for whoever is the safest target, maybe pyxxy because i could probably get away with it. pushing mac would be a deathwish, i can't push wind because doing so would functionally out me, leetic would probably be fun to argue with but he's the type of player where as scum you let him tear apart the town for you, and i would probably try to avoid insomnia so that would limit my options pretty strongly.

i finished a recent scumgame on the org where i played like pure trash if you actually care about meta, was basically impossible for me to find a good push

I am seeing Gira + Pyxxy in this. Or am I just confbiased after the last few posts?

Oh oops I think I have been calling Leetic she, my bad if I have been.

you are, hth

hth?

it's not impossible dizzy can be mafia and not feeling the game, even if he protests that being possible. it happens, sometimes you come out flat. but i'm not really feeling like that is what happened

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 pmhth?

hope this helps

I actually have not cleared Ted for that PR claim, btw. I only skimmed the posts around it, so it's possible I missed stuff, but I saw that he claimed PR and then said he wouldn't answer any questions about it. I've seen Abbi pushing him for it and saying it was a wolfy manner of claiming PR, I don't really think it was AI at all, and I don't think Ted's micro looks scummy (as I said before, I can reasonably see a town PR playing D0 and D1 the way Ted did). But I don't find the PR claim itself to be clearing on its own, I just think it exists and that's about it. And I do have questions for Ted, but since he said not to ask him, I haven't asked.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:42 pmhth?

hope this helps

oh lol.

I still come away not happy with pyxxy.

The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:43 pm it's not impossible dizzy can be mafia and not feeling the game, even if he protests that being possible. it happens, sometimes you come out flat. but i'm not really feeling like that is what happened

I said on D1 (I think) and still maintain now, I think he's legit out of the loop in this game. So if he has wolf teammates, he's just not bothering to talk to them. I don't think he's faking not knowing what's going on in the game. But I do find it a bit improbable that a wolf would just not make any effort, maybe even let their partners bus them, and roll over and die.

Pyxxy is micro'ing town rn enough sigh.

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

I feel like Ive gotten absolutely nowhere.

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there

I have reasons why his claim didn't pass the smell test for me

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:43 pm it's not impossible dizzy can be mafia and not feeling the game, even if he protests that being possible. it happens, sometimes you come out flat. but i'm not really feeling like that is what happened

I said on D1 (I think) and still maintain now, I think he's legit out of the loop in this game. So if he has wolf teammates, he's just not bothering to talk to them. I don't think he's faking not knowing what's going on in the game. But I do find it a bit improbable that a wolf would just not make any effort, maybe even let their partners bus them, and roll over and die.

i've seen it in games but i dunno how much this point is worth arguing

i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

bereft why did you have to be the one to blink first? [VOTE: bereft ] aubergine

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm i guess it's possible ted has figured out the exact right buttons to push to get me to think he's town but he'd be playing a really really good game if so

n other words i think it's incredibly unlikely and would only re-evaluate if the game goes long and he's still alive. to be clear.

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:48 pm

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm

Gira wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:43 pm it's not impossible dizzy can be mafia and not feeling the game, even if he protests that being possible. it happens, sometimes you come out flat. but i'm not really feeling like that is what happened

I said on D1 (I think) and still maintain now, I think he's legit out of the loop in this game. So if he has wolf teammates, he's just not bothering to talk to them. I don't think he's faking not knowing what's going on in the game. But I do find it a bit improbable that a wolf would just not make any effort, maybe even let their partners bus them, and roll over and die.

i've seen it in games but i dunno how much this point is worth arguing

So have I, but there's a bit more to it than just flat-out "wolves don't give up". Obviously it's a more personalized thing.
I'm not gonna cry if Dizzy goes over and ends up flipping town, and I would be pleasantly surprised if he goes over and flips wolf, but I just kinda think it's a waste of a day.

WindwardAway wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:47 pm

Bereft wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:46 pm The micro around ted's claim passed the smell test for me tho, so I rlly rlly rlly do not see myself reevaluating there

I have reasons why his claim didn't pass the smell test for me

Oh..

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Sun Nov 19, 2023 8:49 pm bereft why did you have to be the one to blink first? [VOTE: bereft ] aubergine

If you think we dont end up voting the same person today then lol.

Wagons are finally getting more interesting
But yeah I'm gonna go to sleep
Will anchor my vote soon (I keep saying this but I'm still trying to make some last-minute snap takes)