The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: I had Juliets as a suspicion earlier, and I let it go for a bit because she made a good defense. I did not drop it, I just didn't pursue it for a bit. I'll have to recall what the suspicion was based on... More of a hassle at the moment though, because my computer is out of commission for now, and I'm permaphone guy.

Also, I was at work during the competition, sorry I couldn't help out, team.

The suspicion had to do with me taking up something Canuck had said which was that made's antics might be a diversion that his teammates could hide behind. People wouldn't vote made because of all the talk that he was just like this in misfits so it was a good way for a baddie to divert attention. You thought that that thought was something original but I then showed you that canuck had said it first, and why wouldn't you have been suspicious of her if you were suspicious of me.

That was your suspicion to the best of my recollection.

As I recall, it was the way you said it. What Canuck said was not as suspicious to me, when I get back on a computer I'll try and go back, look, and explain why.

I think Canuck is Civ this game. I could be wrong, just think her posts are genuine.

Yes, and I am civ too.

Hells, bells Dennis.

BWT was one of the few people I felt good about. Well overwhelmingly good.

Glad you are back!

I'm going to read BWT and see if he was on any trails that might let us to something delicious. I encourage you all to do the same.

As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

EBWOP: the point of my post is we can't lynch either ninja or Canuck today even if we wanted to.

Wow, triple post - one more thing.

I will be traveling home on Saturday and that's the day our lynch ends. So, if you have suspicions about me that you want to give me a chance to respond to please post them tomorrow, Friday, so I will have that opportunity. I won't be home until after the lynch ends.

juliets wrote:As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

Canuck has got to be a red herring.

Mongoose wrote:

juliets wrote:As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

Canuck has got to be a red herring.

In what way?

Long Con wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

juliets wrote:As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

Canuck has got to be a red herring.

In what way?

It just seems too obvious a set-up.

I'm having trouble understanding still, are you saying she's a Civvie set up as a baddie?

Long Con wrote:I'm having trouble understanding still, are you saying she's a Civvie set up as a baddie?

I'm pretty sure that's where I was going with that, yeah.

Mongoose, who are you saying set up Canuck? My quote that you quoted was about bwt's suspicion. (And again, I lean civ on her).

For Llama, you did an extra-creative, A-plus effort post in his defense. For Canuck, I've been trying for the last twelve hours to get what you're saying, and you've responded several times, and I still don't have a clue what you mean.

Who is setting Canuck up? Why do you believe she's Civvie? When did this setup happen? Do you suspect certain people for setting her up? Why are you avoiding any sort of elaboration?

This disconnect between your defense of Llama and your defense of Canuck is strange, what are you up to? It's making me feel suspicious, Goose.

I'm with you on this one LC. I don't get how she is only "pretty sure" that's where she was going. Wouldn't she know what she was getting at? I'll wait for Mongoose to try and explain more but this doesn't make me feel good about her.

I'm back - and on my way to work soon.

RIP SVS and Teefies. I'm sorry you both dieded.

I want to go back and re-read the stuffs I missed. I slammed through it all last night when I was super tired so bits of it are a bit blurry.

Today I had planned to strongly consider a vote for llama (as per God's direction ) or ninjajujube....

Frown.


I am (obviously) very happy to see others considering voting Mongoose, since I would 100% not be surprised if she was on a baddie team with llama and/or ninja.
I've thought Mongoose was bad almost all game. I therefore don't think it will come as too much of a surprise that I'm prepared to vote for her now.

There is loads of time to change my vote I necessary, but I somehow think that I might be difficult to persuade on this one...

I just looked at the poll and saw that Keterman voted for me. I went all the way back to the night results but didn't find a post. What gives Keterman? Why would you vote for me and why without even posting?

Odd. My initial guess is silence/force vote? But is that a combo we've seen in the game before?

Canucklehead wrote:Odd. My initial guess is silence/force vote? But is that a combo we've seen in the game before?

It seems like we've seen silenced no vote, but not silence with vote. It could be a forced vote though and that's why he didn't say anything about it. We'll see if he will answer my question.

Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Hedgie, I cannot remember who I was. I did force Chris to make a case against Tranq seems like it was in Recruitment III. He just started declaring Tranq as bad and it almost worked. I haven't thought about Mongooses defense of llama as forced because I believe she made statement about him prior to that day. I'll double check though.

juliets wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Hedgie, I cannot remember who I was. I did force Chris to make a case against Tranq seems like it was in Recruitment III. He just started declaring Tranq as bad and it almost worked. I haven't thought about Mongooses defense of llama as forced because I believe she made statement about him prior to that day. I'll double check though.

I was wrong. I looked back through her posts and though she mentioned llama a couple of times I did not see her making any strong statement that he was civ.

Oops, yeah, Canuck voted Mongoose. Sorry for the error.

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Maybe some people just know my play style better than others.

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Maybe some people just know my play style better than others.

Ture, and you know I'm Mayor Civ, right? Let's all consider someone else today!

Blatant "Look Over There!" tactic is blatant.

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Maybe some people just know my play style better than others.

Ture, and you know I'm Mayor Civ, right? Let's all consider someone else today!

Blatant "Look Over There!" tactic is blatant.

I am still having trouble understanding you.

Mongoose, I think you have to give us an explanation that makes sense about your red herring comment. I can think of a baddie explanation but not a civ one.

Boogs wrote:

Nothing else to say??

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

I'm trying to remember which game it was (or games for that matter) but I've definitely seen people be forced to post a lot of ways. It could be we are looking at it wrong and that she wasn't forced to defend llama but only just forced to talk about only him - I have seen that before. (or could be llama has that role and is making up the restrictions and wanted some help in the defense department)

My problem is her posting already seems off today, so if she was restricted in some way the last day period she can't be again today (unless the hosts allow double targeting.)

I remember back when rabbit played (maybe he still does? haven't heard about him in a long while though) and I used to love to make him post nice things about people.

fingersplints wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

I'm trying to remember which game it was (or games for that matter) but I've definitely seen people be forced to post a lot of ways. It could be we are looking at it wrong and that she wasn't forced to defend llama but only just forced to talk about only him - I have seen that before. (or could be llama has that role and is making up the restrictions and wanted some help in the defense department)

My problem is her posting already seems off today, so if she was restricted in some way the last day period she can't be again today (unless the hosts allow double targeting.)

I was forced in Misfits a few weeks ago to post about how suspicious I totally definitely was of Dana but didn't actually have to vote for her, so I could believe in a curse where someone was forced only to talk about a person. It would make me wonder about the person that the curse wanted discussed though.

Mongoose's posts always sound forced to me regardless of her alignment. I think she overthinks them.

I see MM had nothing to say in response to my re-explanation of why I find him suspicious. I also have a problem with his vote for LoRab, which he said was 'until she explains why she finds him suspicious'. She offered an explanation and his vote stuck, which makes me feel like it was basically just a NO U.

Actually, the points I've made so far have convinced me to *Vote MM*

Bullzeye wrote:I see MM had nothing to say in response to my re-explanation of why I find him suspicious. I also have a problem with his vote for LoRab, which he said was 'until she explains why she finds him suspicious'. She offered an explanation and his vote stuck, which makes me feel like it was basically just a NO U.

Now that's not fair. I haven't been on since then.

And as I said before, I wanted an answer from LoRab. I had asked before, and she didn't answer, so I knew a vote might get her attention more.

I don't know when you have and haven't been on, but it was nearly an entire day and you seemed to be around when I first responded to you.

Bullzeye wrote:I see MM had nothing to say in response to my re-explanation of why I find him suspicious. I also have a problem with his vote for LoRab, which he said was 'until she explains why she finds him suspicious'. She offered an explanation and his vote stuck, which makes me feel like it was basically just a NO U.

And to the points you made, I don't really have anything else to say, except that it's a movie I know well, and I've had fun making allusions to the movie in my posts.

I do want llama's view on this. He seems to have deliberately avoided talking about it, or about me in general for that matter. Llama usually calls me out on something before now in games.

Linki: I left my computer to go help my friend out with some things yesterday, and eventually got more sidetracked.

fingersplints wrote:I remember back when rabbit played (maybe he still does? haven't heard about him in a long while though) and I used to love to make him post nice things about people.

Ha ha, I remember when your avatar at Hedville was a picture of Rabbit wearing a tiara. Good times He has not been around in a while, he was a monstrous pain in the ass at times, but his awesome outweighed it.

I have to vote tonight and i am the most worried about Mongoose. I believe her comment about Canuck being a red herring was meant for baddie bts and she posted it here by mistake. That is further supported by her replies to long con.

Here was the first post:

Mongoose wrote:

juliets wrote:As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

Canuck has got to be a red herring.

Long Con asked her "In what way" and her response was:

Mongoose wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Mongoose wrote:

juliets wrote:As I pointed out earlier, bwt was talking about ninjajellobabies and Canuck right before he died. His suspicion of Canuck seemed stronger. I personally believe she is a civ. I do agree that everyone should read it for themselves.

Canuck has got to be a red herring.

In what way?

It just seems too obvious a set-up.

Notice that makes no sense.

Then this:

Mongoose wrote:

Long Con wrote:I'm having trouble understanding still, are you saying she's a Civvie set up as a baddie?

I'm pretty sure that's where I was going with that, yeah.

She's "pretty sure" that's where she was going with that? Why isnt she sure - she's the one who said it. I think she is scrambling to find something that makes sense because she never should have posted that comment about Canuck being a read herring in this thread to begin with.

Then there is this:

Mongoose wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Hedgeowl wrote:

Long Con wrote:Now Mongoose voted Canuck... Such weird!

Except the opposite because Canuck's not on the poll.

I haven't been getting the civviest feelings from Mongoose's posts, but my real problem is llama. I have been pretty sure he is civ, but reevaluating if I am super off. People said Mongooses defense of him was strange and possibly forced, but I haven't seen a forced defense before. I do remember in Supernatural being forced to do the opposite and make a case on Tranq. Juliets were you the trickster role in that game? Have others seen roles with forced defense before?

Maybe some people just know my play style better than others.

Ture, and you know I'm Mayor Civ, right? Let's all consider someone else today!

Blatant "Look Over There!" tactic is blatant.

Her comment that she was blatantly telling us to look somewhere else was funny, but I believe it is her telling us she's caught - she cant explain that first comment about Canuck being a red herring, the one that started this whole thing because she never meant to say it in the first place.

Mongoose has been on the site today yet has not answer the questions I put forth about her comments. Maybe she was just going into her game thread and not coming here at all but I really think she is avoiding this thread because it's impossible to answer the questions. Like I said, I have to vote tonight but I will give her more time to come in and explain herself.

S~V~S wrote:

fingersplints wrote:I remember back when rabbit played (maybe he still does? haven't heard about him in a long while though) and I used to love to make him post nice things about people.

Ha ha, I remember when your avatar at Hedville was a picture of Rabbit wearing a tiara. Good times He has not been around in a while, he was a monstrous pain in the ass at times, but his awesome outweighed it.

I remember that was when I first joined Hedville and you or Bea said I was going to have some competion for rabbit battles with diggz and PGH. I knew I had to do something big to make my entrance and I found that picture of him in the pictures thread. It was just too perfect to pass up. good times!

Bullzeye wrote:Actually, the points I've made so far have convinced me to *Vote MM*

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:I see MM had nothing to say in response to my re-explanation of why I find him suspicious. I also have a problem with his vote for LoRab, which he said was 'until she explains why she finds him suspicious'. She offered an explanation and his vote stuck, which makes me feel like it was basically just a NO U.

Now that's not fair. I haven't been on since then.

And as I said before, I wanted an answer from LoRab. I had asked before, and she didn't answer, so I knew a vote might get her attention more.

No, you didn't. I just read through all of your posts since I replaced in and do not see a post where you asked me. If I'm missing it, please link to where you asked me before.

Unless maybe you asked your teammates in BTSC why they thought I might suspect you?

what the heck weird stuff went down while I was at work today?

I'm confused by goosey's confusion. I'm not sure I understand why she isn't sure what point she was trying to make about canuck. Goosey - could you explainy a little more please? I'm easily confuzzled after all....

JC's vote would normally seem weird too. I would normally expect her to wait for goosey to respond but knowing she's not going to be around at lynch time helps to make more sense of her early vote.

Speaking of early votes, there sure does seem to be a bunch of them with little to no discussion. WTH? Not *all* of these peeps can be cursed can they?

OMG!!! Pretty Princess Wabbit Tiara!!! I still have that pict somewhere. I remember when splintsy first pmed it to me and made me swear to keep it a secret till she busted out the icon. I miss that waskly SOB.

Ok, I have to turn in because of the long drive tomorrow. As I mentioned earlier, I need to go ahead and vote. I really feel strongly that Mongoose made a slip today and posted something in the thread that should have been in the chat room as my earlier post indicated, so I'm going to join Canuck in a Mongoose vote.

*vote Mongoose*

linki bea - I'm just now voting Mongoose. Gave her as much time as I had.

Also, reading through your posts, I also notice that you agree with and support Llama an awful lot. Because I know her style pretty well, I'm trusting SVS on what she says about Llama being bad. Which makes me suspect you all the more.

And you have what seems like a lot of focus on baddies and BTSC--not in a "I find these people suspicious" way that would make sense, but in a speculation kind of way, that makes it look like you're trying to appear like you don't know information that you actually do know.

That said, the Mongoose red herring stuff is also really weird, so I'm suspecting her, as well.