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Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:50 pm
by Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I have some concern that we might be too willing to adopt a "bad Epignosis" mindset purely because of his posts, meaning we're too quick to discard everything Zebra put in the thread due to recency bias.
True. I'd nearly forgotten he replaced her, tbh.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:50 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei wrote:Dom wrote:WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dom, could you let me know what some of your baddie games have been here? I can't remember any examples of you being bad in games I've played.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:52 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
motel room, what are your thoughts on any of the continuing dialogue?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:53 pm
by motel room
To weigh in on the Sloonei opposers - I think town Sloonei asks questions, scum Sloonei asks questions in defence. With that quote about Wilgy looking bad if INH was town, I'm not reading that as bad because I thought the exact same thing but didn't write it in the thread. It was very possible that Wilgy's flip flopping vote was his uncertainty with how to drop the hammer knowing the outcome.
And this thing of him asking Epi who his next suspect is, I don't get why that's suss. It seems like the ploy , if Sloonei were bad, would be "frame job" but later on Epi reckons frame jobs never work out.
I don't think he's scum.
woah, ton of "linki" (i still dont know what that stands for)
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:54 pm
by Sloonei
To answer Dom's question about what is wanted from him: Cooperation. Help us.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:55 pm
by motel room
Moved to Sweet Dom
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:56 pm
by DrWilgy
Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?
Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:57 pm
by motel room
DrWilgy wrote:Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?
Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.
Yeah but you put it there. You tied it.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:58 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Epignosis: I'd really like to know what you think of Dom.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:00 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
motel room wrote:Moved to Sweet Dom
Why?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:00 pm
by DrWilgy
motel room wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?
Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.
Yeah but you put it there. You tied it.
?
I'm not sure what you mean by me tieing it. I did the opposite.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:01 pm
by Dom
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Dom wrote:I HAVE LITERALLY SAID WHO ELSE I SUSPECT THIS DAY PHASE WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME
Reads. Not all reads are "suspects". Who are your top town reads, for example? I only see Quin as your non-Sloonei prominent suspect, do you have others?
I don't have a photographic memory to recall every post you've made.
I'd think if you're looking to vote me you'd look at my posts.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Dom, could you let me know what some of your baddie games have been here? I can't remember any examples of you being bad in games I've played.
A World Reborn
Star Wars
Arkham
Most of the games in the last year.
motel room wrote:Moved to Sweet Dom
Who are you and why are you voting for me
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:02 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Dom wrote:I'd think if you're looking to vote me you'd look at my posts.
To quote you:
"Are you going to answer my damned question?"
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:03 pm
by Dom
Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:03 pm
by Dom
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Dom wrote:I'd think if you're looking to vote me you'd look at my posts.
To quote you:
"Are you going to answer my damned question?"
Working on it.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:05 pm
by motel room
JaggedJimmyJay wrote:motel room wrote:Moved to Sweet Dom
Why?
Everyone seems to think he's bad now. I want to see who follows through.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:05 pm
by motel room
Dom wrote:Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad
I thought you didnt even know who I was?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:06 pm
by Sloonei
Dom, I made this post primarily for you. Have you looked at it yet?
Sloonei wrote:And I also need to address the idea that my "Who are you gonna vote for?" question was some sort of far-fetched framing scheme of mine. Here's the original post, right at the start of Day 6:
Sloonei wrote:Epi, who you gonna vote for now that Mr Mac is dead?
Quin, who's your supposed 3 person scum team?
Note the second question addressed to Quin. This is just a light conversation-starter type of post. I'm just peppering the two players I can see in the thread with standard mafia questions. These are really the same question: "Who are your suspects?" But, as I am a player who asks a ton of questions in this game, I get bored of typing the same words over and over and over and over again, so sometimes I like to spice it up! I throw whole new, colorful sets of words at people! One way that I like to do this is to ask people "Who they're voting for" instead "who they suspect". Don't believe me? Here's some more examples from
this game:
Sloonei wrote:Who are you gonna vote for, Mr Quin?
link
Sloonei wrote:motel room wrote:righty-o
who you gonna vote for, champ?
link
Sloonei wrote:Who do you want to vote for, mac?
link (admittedly the context is a little different on this one)
Sloonei wrote:Who you gonna vote for, Dom?
link
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:06 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
lol in Star Wars baddie Dom went hard after town MP. :P
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:06 pm
by DrWilgy
Quin now that you are no longer defending your dear Sloon, why are you still voting for me?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:07 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote:Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad
I assume wilgy is bad.
Also you can't give a null GTH read, it's officially against the official rules.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:11 pm
by Dom
motel room wrote:Dom wrote:Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad
I thought you didnt even know who I was?
that was a joke
Sloonei wrote:Dom, I made this post primarily for you. Have you looked at it yet?
Sloonei wrote:And I also need to address the idea that my "Who are you gonna vote for?" question was some sort of far-fetched framing scheme of mine. Here's the original post, right at the start of Day 6:
Sloonei wrote:Epi, who you gonna vote for now that Mr Mac is dead?
Quin, who's your supposed 3 person scum team?
Note the second question addressed to Quin. This is just a light conversation-starter type of post. I'm just peppering the two players I can see in the thread with standard mafia questions. These are really the same question: "Who are your suspects?" But, as I am a player who asks a ton of questions in this game, I get bored of typing the same words over and over and over and over again, so sometimes I like to spice it up! I throw whole new, colorful sets of words at people! One way that I like to do this is to ask people "Who they're voting for" instead "who they suspect". Don't believe me? Here's some more examples from
this game:
Sloonei wrote:Who are you gonna vote for, Mr Quin?
link
Sloonei wrote:motel room wrote:righty-o
who you gonna vote for, champ?
link
Sloonei wrote:Who do you want to vote for, mac?
link (admittedly the context is a little different on this one)
Sloonei wrote:Who you gonna vote for, Dom?
link
You didn't ask any of those immediately after their top suspect died.
Sloonei wrote:Dom wrote:Dom - civ
Epi - lean civ
Glorf - bad
Inh - civ
JJJ - civ
LoRab - lean bad
Motel - was civ, voitng for me after never mentioning me is :supsish:
Quin - null
Scotty - civ
Sloonei - bad
I assume wilgy is bad.
Also you can't give a null GTH read, it's officially against the official rules.
Yeah. I copied and pasted from Wilgy's and forgot to add him.
I've seen others do it. I also don't care about your rules.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:13 pm
by Quin
Because I've spent the past half hour doing this, Wilgy.
Wilgy, you spent most of Days 1-4 arguing that LoRab was bad.
DrWilgy wrote:So... Lorab is bad. Shall we do something about this?
DrWilgy wrote:Ricochet wrote:*wake up*
*read the last three pages*
Rico discuss with me how Lorab is totally not on your team, and discuss with me how Lorab is bad.
DrWilgy wrote:Why Rico and Lorab are most likely bad together: Rico had the lead for way too long without another vote dropping on him. Lorabs vote had way too much momentum swinging the other way as well.
Time for me to catch up now.
Linki: there it is.
DrWilgy wrote:It's simple my dear Sloon!
LoRab wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Glad Epi is dead. I was gut feeling him as bad and this makes my life easier.
Someone tl;dr me for day/night 1.
So, a civ is very likely dead and you are glad about it? Hrm.
First LoRab draws attention to me and does nothing with it. Especially when the LoRab ignores my questioning of the attention draw as seen below:
DrWilgy wrote:@Sloonei I gut read you as bad from me due to a feeling of dancing around the pizza last night. A forced non-grasping of the Rico situation. This is heavily dependent upon other's alignements though.
@Sprityo I gut read you due to your request of wishing to team with Mac following mine.
@Lorab, yes that is what I stated. Your point?
After this, LoRab jumps at the fact that She called me out for expressing happiness at a successful kill (see below)
LoRab wrote:DrWilgy wrote:a2thezebra wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Omoshiroi desu ne?
Is LoRab still bad?
Yes. Rico's alignment in my head was more based on Lorab. Lorab is still bad tho.
Except that I'm not. If you care to say why you think I'm bad, please do. Thus far, your reasoning for suspecting me was based on my voting not for Ricoh to swing the pendulum away from him--we now know that he was neutral and didn't have a team. So....why do you think I'm bad?
Is it because I called you out for expressing happiness that the mafia had a successful kill?
The above still wasn't responded to. What was the point of calling it out? was it alignment telling? and how so? The questions still stands "Your point?"
LoRab wrote:Quin wrote:LoRab wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Glad Epi is dead. I was gut feeling him as bad and this makes my life easier.
Someone tl;dr me for day/night 1.
So, a civ is very likely dead and you are glad about it? Hrm.
His post caught my attention as well. Did I make a mistake letting it go based on the fact that it came from Wilgy? I don't think so.
Sloonei mentioned in a post that you were pinged by 3J's roleplay earlier, LoRab. Can you elaborate on why? Was there a reason to suspect him for it in this specific case, or is it based on principle?
Based on principle. That's a behavior that always pings my suspiciometer. However, he's had high content and has broken character enough at this point and I don't suspect him. At least not currently.
And then... Finally points out the subject of me being bad, while still not acknowledging my question. Only brought it back up to attention because Quin did. Why ignore my question if you really thought I was bad LoRab?
And that's it for what LoRab has stated to highten my suspicions. Below is what LoRab has done, and LoRabs response to my vote yesterday.
LoRab wrote:Thanks for birthday wishes!!
DrWilgy wrote:Why Rico and Lorab are most likely bad together: Rico had the lead for way too long without another vote dropping on him. Lorabs vote had way too much momentum swinging the other way as well.
Time for me to catch up now.
Linki: there it is.
Except not. Also, it may be because I had several drinks, but I'm not even sure I get what you're saying. Regardless, I'm not bad.
Also, now knowing the lynch result, not rico'a teammate
I still stand by the fact LoRab's vote held too much momentum, for someone who didn't seem to know who they wanted to vote for fully at the time especially. The icing on the cake is the colored. Why did that need to be mentioned? If LoRab was truly civ I don't think the thought of "I don't know Rico's outcome" would've been broadcasted, as it's a background natural thought of a civ.
And that's why I think LoRab is bad. If you have no more questions please take a pamphlet on your way out
DrWilgy wrote:no takers on the three way??? I'll put my vote back on LoRab if not ;__;
DrWilgy wrote:I actually trust the wagon without Lorab and sloon on it more.
Changed my vote.
Then you suddenly turned around and suggested you civ her and that your own case wasn't enough 'evidence' to vote her.
DrWilgy wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DrWilgy wrote:LoRab wrote:Putting vote on Wilgy for now. Mainly because I don't want to forget to vote tomorrow.
I may change. Likely will. But Wilgy feels like the right choice for the moment.
-__-
Hmm... I don't think this is the case, but how would the votes look if both Elo and Lorab were bad?
If you don't think it's the case, what interest is it to you?
Simply because we can't ignore plausible options. If enough evidence appears for me to believe that Lorab may be bad it will be a good thought.
DrWilgy wrote:JaggedJimmyJay wrote:DrWilgy wrote:The way I said it was supposed to translate to "wilgy never said I was gth good" and "wilgy says gth bad isn't the same as vote worthy"
So when Quin asked you how you felt about Sloonei, and you responded with "he's not on my baddiedar", you meant "I still suspect him but wouldn't vote for him"?
98% correct. The suspicion was light, and quite honestly more of a "I don't trust this person" but mostly "I have no impulse to vote for him" is what I was wanting to express.
Linki
Dom - bad
Epi - bad
Glorf - good
Inh - good
JJJ - good
LoRab - good
Motel - good
Quin - bad
Scotty - bad
Sloonei - bad
Linki linki - I agree, but unfortunately I'm not at the leisure to change my vote for long, nor are my reads on any other player strong enought to vote for.
I'm not seeing the posts in your history to explain your changing train of thought. At what point exactly did your opinion change? Why? Your posts reflect that she was likely your top scum read.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:15 pm
by DrWilgy
I took a look at Eloh's iso and found that LoRab is most likely not a teammate. Let me find the quote were I pointed this out Quin.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:16 pm
by motel room
DrWilgy wrote:motel room wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Motel room, you realize the alternate vote form me during that flip flop was a no lynch right?
Linki - that gives me leeway to vote Dom. I'm in.
Yeah but you put it there. You tied it.
?
I'm not sure what you mean by me tieing it. I did the opposite.
I need to double check the way it played out, all I know is I felt the same way as Sloonei.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:16 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote:Sloonei wrote:Dom, I made this post primarily for you. Have you looked at it yet?
Sloonei wrote:And I also need to address the idea that my "Who are you gonna vote for?" question was some sort of far-fetched framing scheme of mine. Here's the original post, right at the start of Day 6:
Sloonei wrote:Epi, who you gonna vote for now that Mr Mac is dead?
Quin, who's your supposed 3 person scum team?
Note the second question addressed to Quin. This is just a light conversation-starter type of post. I'm just peppering the two players I can see in the thread with standard mafia questions. These are really the same question: "Who are your suspects?" But, as I am a player who asks a ton of questions in this game, I get bored of typing the same words over and over and over and over again, so sometimes I like to spice it up! I throw whole new, colorful sets of words at people! One way that I like to do this is to ask people "Who they're voting for" instead "who they suspect". Don't believe me? Here's some more examples from
this game:
Sloonei wrote:Who are you gonna vote for, Mr Quin?
link
Sloonei wrote:motel room wrote:righty-o
who you gonna vote for, champ?
link
Sloonei wrote:Who do you want to vote for, mac?
link (admittedly the context is a little different on this one)
Sloonei wrote:Who you gonna vote for, Dom?
link
You didn't ask any of those immediately after their top suspect died.
So what? I am genuinely lost. I don't want to distract from everything else that's going on, but if you could, can you lay out your case against me? I know you feel like it's obvious, but maybe I'm just dense. I genuinely have no idea what is going on in your head with regards to me right now.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:17 pm
by DrWilgy
DrWilgy wrote:Elo analyzed
Elohcin wrote:LoRab wrote:Epi expressed suspicion of Elo earlier, which interests me because they read each other well. Would love for him to elaborate on his thoughts.
I seriously thought his actions were a joke or trying to get a rise out of me or something. I think my reaction was what would determine his thoughts of me. Too bad I had to react after midnight after several drinks (when I don't drink often at all). It probably is what started me off on the wrong track for this game.
No longer super suspicious of the LoRab.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:19 pm
by Sloonei
What do people who are here think of Dom's presence in this thread right now?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:21 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Sloonei wrote:What do people who are here think of Dom's presence in this thread right now?
Combative but can be talked into cooperation. I can see a townie or a baddie; what I can't see is a better place to move my vote to.
If I have any reservations, it's that the kind of snide "civvie savior" remark seems to come from townies I'm wrong about more than baddies I'm right about (or so I remember it without any actual data in front of me). Very small point though.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:22 pm
by DrWilgy
@Sloonei I want him to be bad more so than I feel that he is bad. It is causing my ability to read his reaction to his recent wagon clearly.
Part of me wants to think it's similar to when I caught him last time, but again I want him to be bad and it's skewing my read.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:23 pm
by Quin
DrWilgy wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Elo analyzed
Elohcin wrote:LoRab wrote:Epi expressed suspicion of Elo earlier, which interests me because they read each other well. Would love for him to elaborate on his thoughts.
I seriously thought his actions were a joke or trying to get a rise out of me or something. I think my reaction was what would determine his thoughts of me. Too bad I had to react after midnight after several drinks (when I don't drink often at all). It probably is what started me off on the wrong track for this game.
No longer super suspicious of the LoRab.
Is that interaction really enough for you to discard four days worth of posts against her?
linki: On my quick read through before I started reading into Wilgy he just appeared frustrated. Which is a word that hasn't had a very predictable meaning in this game.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:23 pm
by Dom
Sloonei wrote:Dom wrote:Sloonei wrote:Dom, I made this post primarily for you. Have you looked at it yet?
Sloonei wrote:And I also need to address the idea that my "Who are you gonna vote for?" question was some sort of far-fetched framing scheme of mine. Here's the original post, right at the start of Day 6:
Sloonei wrote:Epi, who you gonna vote for now that Mr Mac is dead?
Quin, who's your supposed 3 person scum team?
Note the second question addressed to Quin. This is just a light conversation-starter type of post. I'm just peppering the two players I can see in the thread with standard mafia questions. These are really the same question: "Who are your suspects?" But, as I am a player who asks a ton of questions in this game, I get bored of typing the same words over and over and over and over again, so sometimes I like to spice it up! I throw whole new, colorful sets of words at people! One way that I like to do this is to ask people "Who they're voting for" instead "who they suspect". Don't believe me? Here's some more examples from
this game:
Sloonei wrote:Who are you gonna vote for, Mr Quin?
link
Sloonei wrote:motel room wrote:righty-o
who you gonna vote for, champ?
link
Sloonei wrote:Who do you want to vote for, mac?
link (admittedly the context is a little different on this one)
Sloonei wrote:Who you gonna vote for, Dom?
link
You didn't ask any of those immediately after their top suspect died.
So what? I am genuinely lost. I don't want to distract from everything else that's going on, but if you could, can you lay out your case against me? I know you feel like it's obvious, but maybe I'm just dense. I genuinely have no idea what is going on in your head with regards to me right now.
I think you tried to set Epi up for an easy lynch.
Epi and I lay out arguments against Mac. Epi was more vocal.
Mac is night killed.
Minutes later you come in, "HEY EPI WHO YA VOTING FOR NOW HUH HUH HUH?!"
It reeks. You evaded my questioning on the matter and you then contradicted yourself in your answers. "Glorfindel 'til I die" you say? Or change your vote like 4 times. You have zero principle and seem only interested in lynching
someone, not a baddie.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:23 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:Part of me wants to think it's similar to when I caught him last time, but again I want him to be bad and it's skewing my read.
When did you catch him last time?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:24 pm
by Sloonei
If we isolate today into a vacuum, Epi is the most suspicious player in this game. Glorfindel's and Scotty's absence is unfortunate but I can't hold either of those things against them. I think Dom looks frustrated and understandably flustered right now, but neither of those things give me a strong indication of any alignment.
Wilgy has actually looked pretty good today, IMO.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:25 pm
by Dom
DrWilgy wrote:@Sloonei I want him to be bad more so than I feel that he is bad. It is causing my ability to read his reaction to his recent wagon clearly.
Part of me wants to think it's similar to when I caught him last time, but again I want him to be bad and it's skewing my read.
because i don't remember-- when did you catch me last time?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:27 pm
by Quin
I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:27 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
I think the lynches I'd currently approve of are Dom or Glorfindel.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:27 pm
by DrWilgy
Quin wrote:DrWilgy wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Elo analyzed
Elohcin wrote:LoRab wrote:Epi expressed suspicion of Elo earlier, which interests me because they read each other well. Would love for him to elaborate on his thoughts.
I seriously thought his actions were a joke or trying to get a rise out of me or something. I think my reaction was what would determine his thoughts of me. Too bad I had to react after midnight after several drinks (when I don't drink often at all). It probably is what started me off on the wrong track for this game.
No longer super suspicious of the LoRab.
Is that interaction really enough for you to discard four days worth of posts against her?
linki: On my quick read through before I started reading into Wilgy he just appeared frustrated. Which is a word that hasn't had a very predictable meaning in this game.
Hard evidence of alignment is worth changing views. If I begin to doubt my read on LoRab again, I can reference my old suspicion, but until then, Eloh is the hardest evidence we have.
Linki - I don't remember the game, but Dom was bad and I caught him through him repeating something I had already asked. I think LoRab was the question receiver. I'll need to find the game.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:29 pm
by Quin
DrWilgy wrote:Quin wrote:DrWilgy wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Elo analyzed
Elohcin wrote:LoRab wrote:Epi expressed suspicion of Elo earlier, which interests me because they read each other well. Would love for him to elaborate on his thoughts.
I seriously thought his actions were a joke or trying to get a rise out of me or something. I think my reaction was what would determine his thoughts of me. Too bad I had to react after midnight after several drinks (when I don't drink often at all). It probably is what started me off on the wrong track for this game.
No longer super suspicious of the LoRab.
Is that interaction really enough for you to discard four days worth of posts against her?
linki: On my quick read through before I started reading into Wilgy he just appeared frustrated. Which is a word that hasn't had a very predictable meaning in this game.
Hard evidence of alignment is worth changing views. If I begin to doubt my read on LoRab again, I can reference my old suspicion, but until then, Eloh is the hardest evidence we have.
Linki - I don't remember the game, but Dom was bad and I caught him through him repeating something I had already asked. I think LoRab was the question receiver. I'll need to find the game.
Where is this hard evidence? All I see is an accusation based on Epi's ability to read Elo well and a joke post.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Who out there would object to a Glorfindel lynch?
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:32 pm
by Dom
Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!
No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:32 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote:Sloonei wrote:Dom wrote:Sloonei wrote:Dom, I made this post primarily for you. Have you looked at it yet?
Sloonei wrote:And I also need to address the idea that my "Who are you gonna vote for?" question was some sort of far-fetched framing scheme of mine. Here's the original post, right at the start of Day 6:
Sloonei wrote:Epi, who you gonna vote for now that Mr Mac is dead?
Quin, who's your supposed 3 person scum team?
Note the second question addressed to Quin. This is just a light conversation-starter type of post. I'm just peppering the two players I can see in the thread with standard mafia questions. These are really the same question: "Who are your suspects?" But, as I am a player who asks a ton of questions in this game, I get bored of typing the same words over and over and over and over again, so sometimes I like to spice it up! I throw whole new, colorful sets of words at people! One way that I like to do this is to ask people "Who they're voting for" instead "who they suspect". Don't believe me? Here's some more examples from
this game:
Sloonei wrote:Who are you gonna vote for, Mr Quin?
link
Sloonei wrote:motel room wrote:righty-o
who you gonna vote for, champ?
link
Sloonei wrote:Who do you want to vote for, mac?
link (admittedly the context is a little different on this one)
Sloonei wrote:Who you gonna vote for, Dom?
link
You didn't ask any of those immediately after their top suspect died.
So what? I am genuinely lost. I don't want to distract from everything else that's going on, but if you could, can you lay out your case against me? I know you feel like it's obvious, but maybe I'm just dense. I genuinely have no idea what is going on in your head with regards to me right now.
I think you tried to set Epi up for an easy lynch.
How am I setting Epi up for an easy lynch? As I tried to highlight in that one post, "Who are you voting for?" is a very common and very softball question for me to ask. I ask it all the time to everyone. I asked you that question earlier in the game. I asked it to get immediate thoughts out of Epi. If Mac was his only read in the game, I don't think that reflects very well on him. But, as I've pointed out a few times now, Epi was one of my strongest town reads entering today. I am genuinely perplexed that the two of you interpreted my question that way and it's frustrating that it's continued for this long. I think you're just being stubborn at this point.
Epi and I lay out arguments against Mac. Epi was more vocal.
Mac is night killed.
Minutes later you come in, "HEY EPI WHO YA VOTING FOR NOW HUH HUH HUH?!"
Holy exaggeration. I asked "Hey Epi, who are your suspects now that Mac is dead?" There was no maniacal or moronic herhering afterwards. Shut up. I love you.
It reeks. You evaded my questioning on the matter and you then contradicted yourself in your answers. "Glorfindel 'til I die" you say? Or change your vote like 4 times. You have zero principle and seem only interested in lynching someone, not a baddie.
That's not what I said. "Glorfindel until further notice" means "Glorfindel until my mind changes". I think this argument is horrible, but I have a bias there. Can someone back me up here? If you think I'm not actively scumhunting and critically analyzing the thread, then I suppose I have to challenge you to point out the posts where I'm actively avoiding those things, but no one ever takes me up on those sorts of proposals.
This case honestly gives me the impression that you're not reading the thread and just saying what you want to true.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:33 pm
by Quin
Dom wrote:Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!
No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.
Please show me the contradiction.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:34 pm
by Sloonei
Dom wrote:Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!
Citation needed.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:35 pm
by DrWilgy
Quin wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Quin wrote:DrWilgy wrote:DrWilgy wrote:Elo analyzed
Elohcin wrote:LoRab wrote:Epi expressed suspicion of Elo earlier, which interests me because they read each other well. Would love for him to elaborate on his thoughts.
I seriously thought his actions were a joke or trying to get a rise out of me or something. I think my reaction was what would determine his thoughts of me. Too bad I had to react after midnight after several drinks (when I don't drink often at all). It probably is what started me off on the wrong track for this game.
No longer super suspicious of the LoRab.
Is that interaction really enough for you to discard four days worth of posts against her?
linki: On my quick read through before I started reading into Wilgy he just appeared frustrated. Which is a word that hasn't had a very predictable meaning in this game.
Hard evidence of alignment is worth changing views. If I begin to doubt my read on LoRab again, I can reference my old suspicion, but until then, Eloh is the hardest evidence we have.
Linki - I don't remember the game, but Dom was bad and I caught him through him repeating something I had already asked. I think LoRab was the question receiver. I'll need to find the game.
Where is this hard evidence? All I see is an accusation based on Epi's ability to read Elo well and a joke post.
It was LoRab encouraging Epi to express or elaborate his suspicions on Elo.
What makes me feel that this is not a team action is that instead of saying "Epi thought Eloh was bad so she is bad" she said "Epi, elaborate on your Eloh suspicions". I feel that if this was for team distancing it would have been presented in the former rather than the latter and thus was not a team interaction.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:36 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Regarding Sloonei and Dom and The Question:
I think that technically, Sloonei didn't answer the question -- at least not in a way that is likely to appease a town Dom. So I understand Dom on that front.
I also think it's a tiny point that is inadequate for a Day 6 vote, particularly when the narrative is that Sloonei was trying to get an "easy Epi lynch" (there is no such thing as an easy Epi lynch, and Sloonei never said he suspected him either). So, I think Dom's point is technically valid but not substantive or compelling.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 5
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:38 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
DrWilgy wrote:It was LoRab encouraging Epi to express or elaborate his suspicions on Elo.
What makes me feel that this is not a team action is that instead of saying "Epi thought Eloh was bad so she is bad" she said "Epi, elaborate on your Eloh suspicions". I feel that if this was for team distancing it would have been presented in the former rather than the latter and thus was not a team interaction.
I really like where your head is at here, Wilgy.
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:40 pm
by Quin
I agree. I voted for Dom again
linki: damn maximum 7 quotes piece of aaaaaaaaaaaaass 
Re: MAD MAX: Day 6
Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:41 pm
by Dom
Quin wrote:Dom wrote:Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!
No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.
Please show me the contradiction.
1) you never answered my question
2) you did not vote for Glorfindel
Sloonei wrote:Dom wrote:Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.
Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!
Citation needed.
^
This is all so blatantly coordinated.