The Syndicate

LC I believe is town off of mechs. I was sent an artifact last night that boosts my mana production by 2 of any color I want and I believe that's from him. I don't think wolves give me extra mana given my claim to be a direct damage role with a kicker.

oh?

Btw, 112 gave me one mana yesterday, as requested. Did anyone else receive colourless mana?

I'm the only one allowed to be cleared based on mana giving. The gods have spoken.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:02 pm I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

bro lmao

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:44 pm

LC I believe is town off of mechs. I was sent an artifact last night that boosts my mana production by 2 of any color I want and I believe that's from him. I don't think wolves give me extra mana given my claim to be a direct damage role with a kicker.

oh?

Yeah, I claimed like D1 to be able to deal two damage with my main ability and that I do have a kicker.
targets:
N1 - ted
N2 - player tbn
N3 - 112

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:44 pm Btw, 112 gave me one mana yesterday, as requested. Did anyone else receive colourless mana?

I received 1 colorless and two mana of another color that I cannot generate on my own.

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

I'd be fine with falcon / hollowkatt / jpic being executed in that order.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm I'd be fine with falcon / hollowkatt / jpic being executed in that order.

My impression based on this current page is that hollowkatt is town.

I did not realize we'd started a new page. My read on hk is based on the previous page. This is worth spending a post on.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:40 pm 112
Long Con
falcon
Justplayingitcool
TonyStarkPrime

4 of these imo but mostly the last 2. sloon, hk and urist are town leans, epi confirmed town, jack probable town.

I think the neighborhood yeet thing is from TSP, I don't think it's likely that comes from mafia yeah?
If it does then just like... why are we playing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:50 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm I'd be fine with falcon / hollowkatt / jpic being executed in that order.

My impression based on this current page is that hollowkatt is town.

I have serious doubts but I won't get into it because all it's likely to do at this point is decrease my survivability.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:49 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:52 pm It's unlikely that mafia crossvoted because they don't even need to be protected to avoid execution. They could have all their members unprotected and still break ties.

Convenient that you cross voted, no?7

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:49 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

I did miss the cost. I have a mana leaf. I spend one colorless and generate two of any single color.
Have you sent this to anyone else?

The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:03 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:52 pm It's unlikely that mafia crossvoted because they don't even need to be protected to avoid execution. They could have all their members unprotected and still break ties.

Convenient that you cross voted, no?7

Oh for sure.

SPICY TAKE IN SPOILER

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:05 pm The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

man do I have a spicy take for you then

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:05 pm The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

Nice.

[VOTE: VOTE LC] aubergine

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:49 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

Why does he need to make up such a blatantly false fake claim if he was given a customized one by the host?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:10 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:05 pm The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

Nice.

[VOTE: VOTE LC] aubergine

beep beep

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:12 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:58 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:49 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

Why does he need to make up such a blatantly false fake claim if he was given a customized one by the host?

I'm trying to figure that out. It's possible there are two people that hand out maple leaf cards.

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

thank you for voting me my canadian, maple syrup loving friend. here's a protect in return since urist is ungrateful for mine

HK said he knows more about maple syrup than u do, he also loves it more. too bad he isn't in canada land lol.

what do you know about maple syrup?

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:38 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:28 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:25 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:23 pm [VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

thank you for voting me my canadian, maple syrup loving friend. here's a protect in return since urist is ungrateful for mine

HK said he knows more about maple syrup than u do, he also loves it more. too bad he isn't in canada land lol.

what do you know about maple syrup?

dunya claimed in the neighborhood chat that LC had given her a maple leaf.
She also claimed to have targeted Mac with her N1 to put him into a hood with her

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:59 pm someone sent me a card last night, i don't want them to claim or say what it was, just don't send again cos it's no use to me thanks.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:02 pm I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

Immediately preceding the maple syrup conversation. Legit?

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:45 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:59 pm someone sent me a card last night, i don't want them to claim or say what it was, just don't send again cos it's no use to me thanks.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:02 pm I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

Immediately preceding the maple syrup conversation. Legit?

confirmed legit

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:26 pm I have read all the host posts and flips and stuff and have a half-decent grasp on the mechanics.

I will not be reading 60 pages of gameplay. So instead I'll ask the room: Why have we chopped three civilians and zero mafiers?

I wasn't around, I didn't know what to do, antitown voting setup.

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:47 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:45 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:59 pm someone sent me a card last night, i don't want them to claim or say what it was, just don't send again cos it's no use to me thanks.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:02 pm I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

Immediately preceding the maple syrup conversation. Legit?

confirmed legit

Or they’re teammates and gave you a card I produced.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:15 pm The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

hollowkatt wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:47 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:45 pm

dunya wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:59 pm someone sent me a card last night, i don't want them to claim or say what it was, just don't send again cos it's no use to me thanks.

Long Con wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 1:02 pm I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

Immediately preceding the maple syrup conversation. Legit?

confirmed legit

Or they’re teammates and gave you a card I produced.

Sorry, I didn't mean confirmed legit as in they're town. I meant confirmed legit as in those two posts happened, dunya said in chat she got a leaf.
I think they could be paired

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

LC - suspect
Epi - civilian

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:27 pm it is 7 vs 4 right now. That's a tight spot. How's our collective POE looking?

Bad.

Epi is confirmed town for being Marmot's mason.

My actions have lead to me being a consensus townread. I think HK and Enrique have been quite townie. Like I think they're trying to solve things.

The problem is I have fuck all of a read on 112, Falcon, Urist, LC, Tony/Dunya, JPIC or you/Guillo. Like JPIC looks the worst and Urist looks the best and Epi likes Guillo but between me missing early stuff and some of those slots coasting, it's just....not entirely clear where the wolves are in that 7 player POE. And that's assuming I haven't been pocketed.

112 is NB?

I can't even keep up with the replacements itg.

How the heck are all these people at 200 posts and I don't have reads on them? Were all those posts on D1?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:43 pm [VOTE: VOTE 112] aubergine

Why? And why not JPIC?

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Like this is not necessarily correct but it is townie.

A lot of the things Enrique says fall into that category. He can be town.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:43 pm [VOTE: VOTE 112] aubergine

Why? And why not JPIC?

JPIC could also be a wolf. 112 is a matter of PoE, there are several players I find a lot more towny

Cross voting didn't help 112 either

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:03 pm

Urist wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:52 pm It's unlikely that mafia crossvoted because they don't even need to be protected to avoid execution. They could have all their members unprotected and still break ties.

Convenient that you cross voted, no?7

'

Like is this what scum Falcon just looks like?

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:43 pm [VOTE: VOTE 112] aubergine

Why? And why not JPIC?

JPIC could also be a wolf. 112 is a matter of PoE, there are several players I find a lot more towny

Gimmie a read list or something. Or a reason to POE 112 before JPIC. Because imo, JPIC is the scummiest player in the game but I'm convincable.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:10 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:05 pm The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

Nice.

[VOTE: VOTE LC] aubergine

And this? Like, that's another "Enrique says a thing that feels like it comes from a town perspective but isn't necessarily correct" and Falcon jumps on it.

I hate it. I kinda want to yeet Falcon.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:08 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:06 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:03 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:43 pm [VOTE: VOTE 112] aubergine

Why? And why not JPIC?

JPIC could also be a wolf. 112 is a matter of PoE, there are several players I find a lot more towny

Gimmie a read list or something. Or a reason to POE 112 before JPIC. Because imo, JPIC is the scummiest player in the game but I'm convincable.

112 has done enough to appear helpful since she arrived, but hasn't done much as far as solving goes, or at least not what I'd expect from her.

She brought up the idea that wolves would just cross vote, and then cross votes with Urist, who then tries to misdirect afterwards telling us "wolves wouldn't cross vote, look away plz"


I dunno. JPIC could also just be the best choice, I have no idea. I'm a little demoralized right now

Long Con wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:42 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 6:17 pm Btw, nothing changed about my mana from Enrique. Idk if there's a delay or if it didn't work or what.

What do you mean? Sorry if it's explained.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:10 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:10 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:05 pm The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

Nice.

[VOTE: VOTE LC] aubergine

And this? Like, that's another "Enrique says a thing that feels like it comes from a town perspective but isn't necessarily correct" and Falcon jumps on it.

I hate it. I kinda want to yeet Falcon.

I don't know what to tell ya, I'm a lil burnt out right now. Getting my ass kicked in a game can do that to me, and really my reads have been for shit, so I'm ready to just sheep at this point.

Where the heck is LC's claim? Like where have we gotten the idea that LC specifically caused the mana thingie to go to HK instead of me?

LC acted ignorant to me not getting the leaf from Enrique.

The main thing I remember about LC's play is that he had the same reasoning as me re: giving 6 mana doesn't make Epi town AND that he then went after Epi, who had just claimed mason with dead Marmot, who had flipped mason.

It's all mixed signals, ya know?

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

LOL. Ok dude. How does me doing what I do (proven) have anything to do with your performance issues?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:49 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:48 pm LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

They do have fake claims, what exactly do you mean by "customized"?