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Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:39 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 am I think we strongly disagree on two people max
who

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:40 am
by BoKnows
LC's and Mac's interaction came across as town-town to me.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:41 am
by MacDougall
Uncle Sam's cock

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:42 am
by BoKnows
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:41 am Uncle Sam's cock
Bruh

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:43 am
by MacDougall
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:42 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:41 am Uncle Sam's cock
Bruh
Gobble gobble

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:44 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
AL_sama wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm jjj looks townie but feels he could pull it off even if he is scum
alison is giving similar vibes as jjj
tututu is null for me right now
ted isn't playing his usual town game
michelle from what little she posted looks town bit would love to see or from her
falcon looks townie
KZA null
mac townie maybe
esona null
stou looks townie
odd with the way he dipped is making me think he is scum
long con null
marmot null
TSP slight scum lean
straw looks townie
stay null
fingers null
JPIC null
boknows slight scum lean
If there's anything here that gives me pause, it's the highlighted thing. It's representative of a rather common paranoia I receive from folks newly encountering my style of play who are actually tasked with figuring it out (i.e. town).

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:45 am
by MacDougall
Yeah you're right that's actually quite a townie thing for mr sama

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:45 am
by BoKnows
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:44 am
AL_sama wrote: Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:11 pm jjj looks townie but feels he could pull it off even if he is scum
alison is giving similar vibes as jjj
tututu is null for me right now
ted isn't playing his usual town game
michelle from what little she posted looks town bit would love to see or from her
falcon looks townie
KZA null
mac townie maybe
esona null
stou looks townie
odd with the way he dipped is making me think he is scum
long con null
marmot null
TSP slight scum lean
straw looks townie
stay null
fingers null
JPIC null
boknows slight scum lean
If there's anything here that gives me pause, it's the highlighted thing. It's representative of a rather common paranoia I receive from folks newly encountering my style of play who are actually tasked with figuring it out (i.e. town).
He should watch your YouTube video.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:45 am
by MacDougall
Esona null is also funny as fuck

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:46 am
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:39 am For what it's worth to Long Con: I think the frequency with which he receives suspicion is a product of two things above all else:

1) lower activity level -- it may be lame that this happens, but it's not surprising. When more and more players adopt a POE-styled approach, players who offer less material to interpret are going to be read with less confidence by default. It's inescapable. That's why some people seem to find themselves in POE pools every game. I'm sorry that happens, but I don't know what can be done about it on the part of the hunters.

2) Long Con has a way of inviting it as a self-fulfilling prophecy and causing snowball effects. I might as well not even try, because I'll just get read as mafia -- this is an anecdotal view based on some frustrating incidents where trying did result in suspicion. But in general, trying harder is going to result in greater trust. It's also inescapable.
Number 2 was just a phase, I don't think I'm into that anymore.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:46 am
by MacDougall
Lol this vote split is fucking whack as

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:47 am
by MacDougall
Sama has a lot of nulls too which for me is a lil townie der

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:47 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
@TonyStarkPrime would you be willing to consolidate your reads into a single, cohesive post? It could be a generic reads list or something similar.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
What's the best reason to call tutuu a civilian?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am
by tedxtr
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:09 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:02 am Youre fun to play mind games with.
in my head i actually thought this was an elaborate scheme to troll me because of that exact post with "you're fun to play games with"
It wasn't I just think you're lock mafia
i still think you're trolling

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:50 am
by BoKnows
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am What's the best reason to call tutuu a civilian?
When I read her posts they come across as genuine.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 am
by TonyStarkPrime
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:39 am
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:37 am I think we strongly disagree on two people max
who
JPIC and LC

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:51 am
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am What's the best reason to call tutuu a civilian?
Her Alison interactions earlier maybe?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:52 am
by BoKnows
I'm just hesitant with how genuine they are if being carefree is for M.O regardless of alignment

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:09 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:02 am Youre fun to play mind games with.
in my head i actually thought this was an elaborate scheme to troll me because of that exact post with "you're fun to play games with"
It wasn't I just think you're lock mafia
i still think you're trolling
[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Day 7-way tie at 2

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:54 am
by Long Con
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am Day 7-way tie at 2
Is this said right?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:54 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:54 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am Day 7-way tie at 2
Is this said right?
No. Day = Dat

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am
by BoKnows
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:54 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am Day 7-way tie at 2
Is this said right?
No

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am
by tedxtr
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:53 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:49 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:09 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:04 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:02 am Youre fun to play mind games with.
in my head i actually thought this was an elaborate scheme to troll me because of that exact post with "you're fun to play games with"
It wasn't I just think you're lock mafia
i still think you're trolling
[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine
[VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
by BoKnows
[VOTE: NANOOK] aubergine
8 way tie

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
by MacDougall
Nope

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am [VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right
No. "you're trolling me" is not an answer to anything that I care for. It implies a certain mindset.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:57 am
by tedxtr
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am [VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right
No. "you're trolling me" is not an answer to anything that I care for. It implies a certain mindset.
and which one is that

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:58 am
by BoKnows
the tie is done brutal [v/]UNVOTE[v]

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:58 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am [VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right
No. "you're trolling me" is not an answer to anything that I care for. It implies a certain mindset.
and which one is that
"how seriously should I take this person's suspicion of me?"

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am
by tedxtr
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:58 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am [VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right
No. "you're trolling me" is not an answer to anything that I care for. It implies a certain mindset.
and which one is that
"how seriously should I take this person's suspicion of me?"
and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?
It looks like someone trying to avoid a trap.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:02 am
by MacDougall
You're fun to play mind games with.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
by tedxtr
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?
It looks like someone trying to avoid a trap.
if he's trolling, what trap is there to avoid

the whole context was that we just talked about MIND GAMES...

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
by tedxtr
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?
It looks like someone trying to avoid a trap.
if he's trolling, what trap is there to avoid

the whole context was that we just talked about MIND GAMES...
and the post that cemented him being trolling is LITERALLY "you're fun to play mind games with"

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:06 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?
It looks like someone trying to avoid a trap.
if he's trolling, what trap is there to avoid

the whole context was that we just talked about MIND GAMES...
and the post that cemented him being trolling is LITERALLY "you're fun to play mind games with"
Mac can literally be trolling. It's irrelevant. Instead of addressing the suspicion your head is at "am I being trolled?" or "am I being reaction tested" -- that's not where it ought to be.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 am
by tedxtr
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:06 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:03 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:01 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:00 am and if i have him as a town read in my head, after talking about trolling and mind games i couldn't make that post as a villager because...?
It looks like someone trying to avoid a trap.
if he's trolling, what trap is there to avoid

the whole context was that we just talked about MIND GAMES...
and the post that cemented him being trolling is LITERALLY "you're fun to play mind games with"
Mac can literally be trolling. It's irrelevant. Instead of addressing the suspicion your head is at "am I being trolled?" or "am I being reaction tested" -- that's not where it ought to be.
i just said i had him as a town read in my head - and it was clearly a troll, you're expecting me to read into troll posts?

it's like saying copypastas are alignment indicative

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:11 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:07 am i just said i had him as a town read in my head - and it was clearly a troll, you're expecting me to read into troll posts?

it's like saying copypastas are alignment indicative
I'm not telling you to interpret Mac's alignment. I'm telling you to play the game with a civilian mindset. You can read Mac as town and receive an accusation from him without defaulting to "am I being trolled?" like someone who is egg-shelling a perceived reaction test in an effort to pass it.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:12 am
by MacDougall
What part of what I am doing is trolling?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 am
by tedxtr
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:12 am What part of what I am doing is trolling?
i'm not doing this

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:21 am
by BoKnows
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:12 am What part of what I am doing is trolling?
i'm not doing this
Why?

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:25 am
by BoKnows
BoKnows wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:21 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:16 am
MacDougall wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:12 am What part of what I am doing is trolling?
i'm not doing this
Why?
Wait you already explained this.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:28 am
by Long Con
I think ted is kind of being fucked with here, between JJJ and Joseph, and Bo is kind of jabbing.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:29 am
by Long Con
Actually not so much Bo jabbing on second thought. But I find myself sympathizing with ted, I guess is what I'm saying.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:31 am
by BoKnows
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:58 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:57 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:56 am
tedxtr wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 10:55 am [VOTE: JJJ ] aubergine

am i doing it right
No. "you're trolling me" is not an answer to anything that I care for. It implies a certain mindset.
and which one is that
"how seriously should I take this person's suspicion of me?"
I don't think the trolling comment implies that, I think it's questioning the root of the suspicion.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:33 am
by BoKnows
I am thinking that Ted calling Mac's suspicion trolling, is discrediting Mac's foundation of the suspicion and not the seriousness of it.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:34 am
by Long Con
Joseph set up a "not serious, it's mind games" vibe. I guess mind games can be non-trolling, but it's easy to conclude that he's trolling when he's playing mind games.

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:34 am
by JaggedJimmyJay
[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

Re: Fargo Mafia [DAY 1]

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:35 am
by BoKnows
Long Con wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 11:34 am Joseph set up a "not serious, it's mind games" vibe. I guess mind games can be non-trolling, but it's easy to conclude that he's trolling when he's playing mind games.
Who's Joe?

Also how would Mac benefit from "trolling" ted? I don't see a world where Mac can gain from trolling another player.