Hotdog Fingers Mafia [Game over, Mafia won]

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

[MacDougall]

Sorry Kate but I can't abide you simply refusing to do basic shit like explain your reads or answer questions.

[MacDougall]

I'm voting SVS cuz Porscha is.

[Kate]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We have been around it 50 times I don't know what else you want me to say. And I've answered all of your questions. Then, when I answered you yelled at me for disappearing for going to bed. I don't know how to please you, Mac.

[S~V~S]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

[Kate]

If you want to vote svs gor for it, why does it matter to you who I'm voting for?

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We have been around it 50 times I don't know what else you want me to say. And I've answered all of your questions. Then, when I answered you yelled at me for disappearing for going to bed. I don't know how to please you, Mac.

This is literally a lie! A blatant bold faced lie.

[MacDougall]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

[Kate]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

[Kate]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

I don't think she should be voting you.

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

I don't think she should be voting you.

So why aren't you talking to her about her read and trying to get her to vote with you?

[S~V~S]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

[MacDougall]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

[Kate]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

[Kate]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

Question was not directed to you.

My question for you is why aren't you pleading with your top townread to vote me out if you really think I'm mafia?

[MacDougall]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

[Kate]

No.one is moving bc the wolves are happy watching svs go over.

[Porscha]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

God I hope so I hate f3s

[Kate]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Because I think the answer is wilgy and Neon. Period. People want to force me to say more than that. But it's as far as my brain can go.

[Porscha]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Wasnt her exact team wilgy and neon

[Porscha]

I think even if in some unlikely world where it is svs and kate w/w they couldnt have identical reads otherwise it's too obvious

[MacDougall]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Wasnt her exact team wilgy and neon

She said I'm most likely to die than Scotty but has me as next most likely wolf. It doesn't make sense.

[Porscha]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

God I hope so I hate f3s

Lmao I cant math. I meant hate lylo which this time could be at f5 zz

[Kate]

Note that wilgy and Neon are NOT on svs, they don't have to be. Youre doing all the work for them.

[Porscha]

Okay Kate I didn't see your replies to me were inside the quotes sorry. I thought you just completely ignored me.

We kill Wilgy what do we do if he flips town and the 3 of us are in f5?

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Wasnt her exact team wilgy and neon

She said I'm most likely to die than Scotty but has me as next most likely wolf. It doesn't make sense.

If svs flips town my top 2 poe is kate or neon. Actually is there a reason they cant be a pair?

[MacDougall]

I think even if in some unlikely world where it is svs and kate w/w they couldnt have identical reads otherwise it's too obvious

Thats my point actually.

If they were t/t or t/w they should be more unified.

If SVS has me as lock wolf and her top townread isn't voting me to save her why is she not talking to her like Kate is doing to me.

[Porscha]

Like kate hard defends kate and neon just sits off wagon? Lol

[S~V~S]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

Question was not directed to you.

My question for you is why aren't you pleading with your top townread to vote me out if you really think I'm mafia?

Because she thinks what she thinks, and I am ok being yeeted. This has ceased to be fun for me, and although it is disrespectful to the host to say so, this has ceased to be fun for me.



Good luck civs!

[Kate]

Like kate hard defends kate and neon just sits off wagon? Lol

Huh?

[Porscha]

KATE HARD DEFENDS SVS AND NEON SITS OFF WAGON?

[Porscha]

Like kate hard defends kate and neon just sits off wagon? Lol

Huh?

Sorry the brain fog is rough today

[MacDougall]

We kill neon. But I reallllly don't think he will.

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Wasnt her exact team wilgy and neon

She said I'm most likely to die than Scotty but has me as next most likely wolf. It doesn't make sense.

If svs flips town my top 2 poe is kate or neon. Actually is there a reason they cant be a pair?

Neon fits with just about anyone.

Wilgy fits with pretty much only me fmpov cuz Wilgy/Neon should have tried to push me today. Likewise Neon.

I kinda wanna switch to Neon honestly.

[Kate]

KATE HARD DEFENDS SVS AND NEON SITS OFF WAGON?

Oh.

[Kate]

So you're assuming Porscha dies tonight in every world yeh?

Probably yes. Or me or you.

Why not SVS?

Why me when I'm your next wolfread if your exact team is correct?

Wasnt her exact team wilgy and neon

She said I'm most likely to die than Scotty but has me as next most likely wolf. It doesn't make sense.

If svs flips town my top 2 poe is kate or neon. Actually is there a reason they cant be a pair?

Neon fits with just about anyone.

Wilgy fits with pretty much only me fmpov cuz Wilgy/Neon should have tried to push me today. Likewise Neon.

I kinda wanna switch to Neon honestly.

I will

[Kate]

There ya go I'm on neon.

[Porscha]

I think even if in some unlikely world where it is svs and kate w/w they couldnt have identical reads otherwise it's too obvious

Thats my point actually.

If they were t/t or t/w they should be more unified.

If SVS has me as lock wolf and her top townread isn't voting me to save her why is she not talking to her like Kate is doing to me.

Idk svs hardly talking at all lol

[Kate]

I'd rather be on wilgy.

[MacDougall]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

Question was not directed to you.

My question for you is why aren't you pleading with your top townread to vote me out if you really think I'm mafia?

Because she thinks what she thinks, and I am ok being yeeted. This has ceased to be fun for me, and although it is disrespectful to the host to say so, this has ceased to be fun for me.



Good luck civs!

Ugh its such an annoying cop out when you people this. I've been spending all damn phase trying to understand you and all I get is just trust me and ridicule and now you're giving up. It puts the entire onus on me and is not in the spirit of towning to do this.

[Kate]

I'll take the onus if you move of her

[Porscha]

The only reason I dont want to go into neon today is that it means neither of kate nor svs will have been solved and today we can afford to flip 1 but not the other. If we pick the wrong one. We will not have that luxury tomorrow if we flip a town and then we sit there not knowing what to do with kate / svs

[MacDougall]

@Porscha I vote where you vote.

I'm happy to vote wherever.

[Porscha]

I'd rather be on wilgy.

Lol I just dont get it!!!

[MacDougall]

The only reason I dont want to go into neon today is that it means neither of kate nor svs will have been solved and today we can afford to flip 1 but not the other. If we pick the wrong one. We will not have that luxury tomorrow if we flip a town and then we sit there not knowing what to do with kate / svs

So you're of the view that one is 100% pocketing the other?

I'm of the view that is wholly unlikely to be the case. Neither of them are so bad at mafia to never humour the likelihood to the complete detriment of town and endgame a loss off of it. They are both capable of seeing the other as mafia and have done.

[Porscha]

@Porscha I vote where you vote.

I'm happy to vote wherever.

This is so much pressure lol

I feel better to go into kate/svs today for some kind of resolution to solve for later days. I think it provides most info. Do you agree?

[Porscha]

The only reason I dont want to go into neon today is that it means neither of kate nor svs will have been solved and today we can afford to flip 1 but not the other. If we pick the wrong one. We will not have that luxury tomorrow if we flip a town and then we sit there not knowing what to do with kate / svs

So you're of the view that one is 100% pocketing the other?

I'm of the view that is wholly unlikely to be the case. Neither of them are so bad at mafia to never humour the likelihood to the complete detriment of town and endgame a loss off of it. They are both capable of seeing the other as mafia and have done.

I believe it is the most likely of the options yes but I know you havent felt that way. I have not been privy to witness their play that would break a mold in my mind that generally believes it's possible to fool someone who knows exactly what the other wants to hear

[MacDougall]

I don't understand how SVS votes me all day with no re-evaluation after what I've presented today. She also hasn't even tried to formulate a persuasive case on it but Scotty did vote with her for a moment so if she is mafia and it's not with Kate it's with Scotty.

[S~V~S]

You still lock townread SVS?

And vice versa.

And STILL won't explain it! Either of you.

And you STILL haven't answered my questions from yesterday.

We're very good friends and have multiple tells on each other; we started playing together in 2009 for Gods sake, in a forum where every game was a 30 player role madness game. That's the explanation. She had me as bad the first day in GOC. Not sure why this is so hard for you to accept.

But you do you.

Why haven't you two been voting together?

Why aren't you listening to her townread on me and voting with her?

Because we can read each other; we don’t have a mind meld. Just because I know she’s civ doesn’t mean I think she’s right all the time.

Question was not directed to you.

My question for you is why aren't you pleading with your top townread to vote me out if you really think I'm mafia?

Because she thinks what she thinks, and I am ok being yeeted. This has ceased to be fun for me, and although it is disrespectful to the host to say so, this has ceased to be fun for me.



Good luck civs!

Ugh its such an annoying cop out when you people this. I've been spending all damn phase trying to understand you and all I get is just trust me and ridicule and now you're giving up. It puts the entire onus on me and is not in the spirit of towning to do this.

You don't even begin to understand how frustrating it is when you act like you know more than anyone, are 100% wrong, refuse to even consider it, and then say things like that. "you people".

It isn't in the spirit of towning to refuse to even consider that something in front of your eyes can be so. Two people who know each other super well can read each other.

I am getting frustrated to the point of being a detriment to the game, and to the game this host wanted to have, and I believe that at that point, the correct course of action is to remove myself from the thread.

Sorry you had to waste your day on me.

[Porscha]

If svs doesnt wanna play anyway then I'll keep my vote there. We cant have a slot who doesnt want to participate this late into the game