The Syndicate

Dom wrote:No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

Dom wrote:Note: Quinn never did the promised ISO on me.


Quin and Sloonei are bad. This is so clearly a coordinated attack on me right now.

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.

Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!


No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

Please show me the contradiction.

1) you never answered my question
2) you did not vote for Glorfindel

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.

Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!

Citation needed.

^


This is all so blatantly coordinated.

Dom wrote:Note: Quinn never did the promised ISO on me.


Quin and Sloonei are bad. This is so clearly a coordinated attack on me right now.

Dom wrote:Note: Quinn never did the promised ISO on me.


Quin and Sloonei are bad. This is so clearly a coordinated attack on me right now.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

I didn't say I'm going to "give you a read". I didn't think of you as a top lynch candidate until quite recently, and now there is too little time for a thorough ISO. How about this:

What do you think is/are the best reason(s) you should be seen as a townie?

Dom wrote:Note: Quinn never did the promised ISO on me.


Quin and Sloonei are bad. This is so clearly a coordinated attack on me right now.

Dom wrote:I am principled.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

I didn't say I'm going to "give you a read". I didn't think of you as a top lynch candidate until quite recently, and now there is too little time for a thorough ISO. How about this:

What do you think is/are the best reason(s) you should be seen as a townie?

I am principled. I have tried my best to determine who is bad. I have been wrong and owned it. I have tried and failed and have no one supporting me right now.

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:Note: Quinn never did the promised ISO on me.


Quin and Sloonei are bad. This is so clearly a coordinated attack on me right now.

I read your posts. They directed me to LoRab. I apologise if my efforts don't meet your expectations.

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.

Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!


No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

Please show me the contradiction.

1) you never answered my question
2) you did not vote for Glorfindel

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

Quin wrote:I do not understand why Dom is connecting open-mindedness with lack of scum hunting.

Because he is literally contradicting himself?!?!?!

Citation needed.

^


This is all so blatantly coordinated.

What? Answer the damn question. This is becoming absurd.

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

I didn't say I'm going to "give you a read". I didn't think of you as a top lynch candidate until quite recently, and now there is too little time for a thorough ISO. How about this:

What do you think is/are the best reason(s) you should be seen as a townie?

I am principled. I have tried my best to determine who is bad. I have been wrong and owned it. I have tried and failed and have no one supporting me right now.

I asked you to show me the contradiction in Sloonei's post and you flung poop at me for not giving you a 'proper' ISO. That's no surprise.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei

Do I need to respond to this?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

Sloonei wrote:Dom, we still have over an hour until the deadline. That's an eternity by EoD standards. I think you have ample opportunity to go back and critically analyze some more things rather than lashing out at the cases against you. Note that I still have not voted for you. I'm trying to get more critical analysis and expanded thoughts out of you. I am not trying to bury you.

Quin wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:No one is listening to me at all. If you're really interested in hearing me out, you'd read my damn posts and NOT suddenly decide it's lynch Dom day and ignore half the things I've said. How many people keep saying they're going to "give me a read"? I've yet to see one ISO.

I didn't say I'm going to "give you a read". I didn't think of you as a top lynch candidate until quite recently, and now there is too little time for a thorough ISO. How about this:

What do you think is/are the best reason(s) you should be seen as a townie?

I am principled. I have tried my best to determine who is bad. I have been wrong and owned it. I have tried and failed and have no one supporting me right now.

I asked you to show me the contradiction in Sloonei's post and you flung poop at me for not giving you a 'proper' ISO. That's no surprise.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei

Do I need to respond to this?

I think you're currently enjoying your stature as the Voice of Reason while the flustered mislynch target pulls his hair out.

Sloonei wrote:Okay Dom, I missed the part where you said what the contradiction was, or I failed to understand it. Point me to it again please.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

I am consistent.

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei

Do I need to respond to this?

I think you're currently enjoying your stature as the Voice of Reason while the flustered mislynch target pulls his hair out.

I'm not enjoying this at all.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Sloonei

Do I need to respond to this?

I think you're currently enjoying your stature as the Voice of Reason while the flustered mislynch target pulls his hair out.

I'm not enjoying this at all.

What do you mean? What's not to enjoy specifically?

Sloonei wrote:Dom and I are making no progress. I feel he is being blind and stubborn. He feels I am a baddie who refuses to listen to him. I'm confused about his beef but he seems to think it should be clear. However I am starting to feel like he is not coming from a dishonest place so I fear we may be wasting our time and I regret dragging it back up, but I thought it needed to be addressed.

DrWilgy wrote:I don't know if baddie Dom would use all caps. I'm having my doubts now, but at for self preservation I'm unable to move.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:Dom and I are making no progress. I feel he is being blind and stubborn. He feels I am a baddie who refuses to listen to him. I'm confused about his beef but he seems to think it should be clear. However I am starting to feel like he is not coming from a dishonest place so I fear we may be wasting our time and I regret dragging it back up, but I thought it needed to be addressed.

I'll take that answer.

I'd rather lynch Glorfindel than Epignosis. You recently said that in a Day 6 vacuum, Epignosis is the most suspicious player -- what makes you say so? Please summarize for time's sake.

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Is that it? I feel like I did answer the question. I responded to Dom's question as if he was asking me the same question I was asking Epi, since that was his point I think. So I took it as "Who are you suspicious of, and who comes after that?" I think I've answered that thoroughly today, if not directly to him. I made a rainbow list, gave a full list of GTH reads, and did your Townie exercise. Would you not agree that I've thoroughly answered the spirit of his question today?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

I am consistent.

I agree with that. You're definitely consistent.

What would you say to me if I told you I view consistency as a baddie trait as much as if not more than a townie trait?

Sloonei wrote:Who objects to an Epi lynch? Dom's frustration doesn't seem fabricated.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Is that it? I feel like I did answer the question. I responded to Dom's question as if he was asking me the same question I was asking Epi, since that was his point I think. So I took it as "Who are you suspicious of, and who comes after that?" I think I've answered that thoroughly today, if not directly to him. I made a rainbow list, gave a full list of GTH reads, and did your Townie exercise. Would you not agree that I've thoroughly answered the spirit of his question today?

I think you're approaching this scenario incorrectly if you believe "answering the question in spirit" means anything to a person who suspects you for a perceived failure to answer a question. His question was in direct dialogue with you, and anything short of an answer in direct dialogue with him is likely to be something he notices. Your actual answer to his question was only barely an "answer". His prompt implied that he expected names from you beyond Glorfindel, and you didn't give him names. You threw the widest possible net over literally everyone else.

You don't see how that can be perceived as a bad answer?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Sloonei wrote:I absolutely hated the way he responded to me earlier when he tried to insist that your case against him was insincere. Any time I said anything to him, his response, from my perspective, amounted to "Pfft, yeah right" with an indecent hand gesture. He never really engaged, just kept pushing the things I said out of the way as if they were unimportant. That, and the way he turned my asking him for suspects into a reason to suspect me. I called it a smokescreen last night and I still stand by that.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Is that it? I feel like I did answer the question. I responded to Dom's question as if he was asking me the same question I was asking Epi, since that was his point I think. So I took it as "Who are you suspicious of, and who comes after that?" I think I've answered that thoroughly today, if not directly to him. I made a rainbow list, gave a full list of GTH reads, and did your Townie exercise. Would you not agree that I've thoroughly answered the spirit of his question today?

I think you're approaching this scenario incorrectly if you believe "answering the question in spirit" means anything to a person who suspects you for a perceived failure to answer a question. His question was in direct dialogue with you, and anything short of an answer in direct dialogue with him is likely to be something he notices. Your actual answer to his question was only barely an "answer". His prompt implied that he expected names from you beyond Glorfindel, and you didn't give him names. You threw the widest possible net over literally everyone else.

You don't see how that can be perceived as a bad answer?

Quin wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

I don't. He has constantly neglected to explain why. Everything I'm reading from his dialogue on the issue is

'He contradicted himself'
'I just explained myself'
'You are bad'

The first thing he did when I asked him for his case was accuse me and Sloonei of coordinating an attack on him. Your three line post has done a better job of explaining than he has this entire phase. If I want to figure out what The Question is I'm going to have to read back, which is not something I expected I'd have to do.

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Is that it? I feel like I did answer the question. I responded to Dom's question as if he was asking me the same question I was asking Epi, since that was his point I think. So I took it as "Who are you suspicious of, and who comes after that?" I think I've answered that thoroughly today, if not directly to him. I made a rainbow list, gave a full list of GTH reads, and did your Townie exercise. Would you not agree that I've thoroughly answered the spirit of his question today?

I think you're approaching this scenario incorrectly if you believe "answering the question in spirit" means anything to a person who suspects you for a perceived failure to answer a question. His question was in direct dialogue with you, and anything short of an answer in direct dialogue with him is likely to be something he notices. Your actual answer to his question was only barely an "answer". His prompt implied that he expected names from you beyond Glorfindel, and you didn't give him names. You threw the widest possible net over literally everyone else.

You don't see how that can be perceived as a bad answer?

I suppose so, but like I said, I also think the question is bogus as he's doing it in an effort (I think) to highlight that my question to Epi was unfair as he perceived it. But his perception of my question to Epi is incorrect. I answered his question in the way that I expected Epi to answer mine. I also could reject that it's a contradiction because I never ever said I expected Epi to answer my question to the extent that Dom is hounding me for, and I even said that I was satisfied with Epi's response at one point last night.

Sloonei wrote:I suppose so, but like I said, I also think the question is bogus as he's doing it in an effort (I think) to highlight that my question to Epi was unfair as he perceived it. But his perception of my question to Epi is incorrect. I answered his question in the way that I expected Epi to answer mine. I also could reject that it's a contradiction because I never ever said I expected Epi to answer my question to the extent that Dom is hounding me for, and I even said that I was satisfied with Epi's response at one point last night.

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

I am consistent.

I agree with that. You're definitely consistent.

What would you say to me if I told you I view consistency as a baddie trait as much as if not more than a townie trait?

I have done my best to remain logical and stay a fair judge of character. Don't know what to say.

Sloonei wrote:Who objects to an Epi lynch? Dom's frustration doesn't seem fabricated.

JJJ pulls support and you do too. Just like how you only supported it once JJJ did show suspicion of me. You are bad. You are badder than bad. You and Quin are so transparent.



I also literally said what the contradiction was in a post that you responded to-- more evidence that you're not even reading my posts. You and Quin don't care what I say, as long as it ends with me having hte most votes next to my name.


What the hell do we think of motel room jumping on me the second it's convenient?

Dom wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:In fairness to Dom, I do think he has explained his perceived contradiction well enough. He views it as contradictory for Sloonei to ask Epignosis The Question when he had not answered the question directly himself when Dom had asked something similar. One can debate how suspicious this actually is, but I don't think it's ridiculous to call it a contradiction.

Is that it? I feel like I did answer the question. I responded to Dom's question as if he was asking me the same question I was asking Epi, since that was his point I think. So I took it as "Who are you suspicious of, and who comes after that?" I think I've answered that thoroughly today, if not directly to him. I made a rainbow list, gave a full list of GTH reads, and did your Townie exercise. Would you not agree that I've thoroughly answered the spirit of his question today?

I think you're approaching this scenario incorrectly if you believe "answering the question in spirit" means anything to a person who suspects you for a perceived failure to answer a question. His question was in direct dialogue with you, and anything short of an answer in direct dialogue with him is likely to be something he notices. Your actual answer to his question was only barely an "answer". His prompt implied that he expected names from you beyond Glorfindel, and you didn't give him names. You threw the widest possible net over literally everyone else.

You don't see how that can be perceived as a bad answer?

I suppose so, but like I said, I also think the question is bogus as he's doing it in an effort (I think) to highlight that my question to Epi was unfair as he perceived it. But his perception of my question to Epi is incorrect. I answered his question in the way that I expected Epi to answer mine. I also could reject that it's a contradiction because I never ever said I expected Epi to answer my question to the extent that Dom is hounding me for, and I even said that I was satisfied with Epi's response at one point last night.

Why did you hold me to name more names but you literally STILL haven't given me one.

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

I am consistent.

I agree with that. You're definitely consistent.

What would you say to me if I told you I view consistency as a baddie trait as much as if not more than a townie trait?

I have done my best to remain logical and stay a fair judge of character. Don't know what to say.

Sloonei wrote:Who objects to an Epi lynch? Dom's frustration doesn't seem fabricated.

JJJ pulls support and you do too. Just like how you only supported it once JJJ did show suspicion of me. You are bad. You are badder than bad. You and Quin are so transparent.



I also literally said what the contradiction was in a post that you responded to-- more evidence that you're not even reading my posts. You and Quin don't care what I say, as long as it ends with me having hte most votes next to my name.


What the hell do we think of motel room jumping on me the second it's convenient?

I am reading your posts. They are not making sense to me. I am asking questions so that you will make better sense to me. I never voted for you. I was never firmly on your bandwagon.
Can you assume for a moment that I am town and try to look at the thread from that perspective?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Sloonei wrote:I suppose so, but like I said, I also think the question is bogus as he's doing it in an effort (I think) to highlight that my question to Epi was unfair as he perceived it. But his perception of my question to Epi is incorrect. I answered his question in the way that I expected Epi to answer mine. I also could reject that it's a contradiction because I never ever said I expected Epi to answer my question to the extent that Dom is hounding me for, and I even said that I was satisfied with Epi's response at one point last night.

I'm not interested in debating whether it was actually a contradiction. I'm interested in whether it's understandable that Dom perceived it as a contradiction. Tell me your stance on that alone.

Dom wrote:

Sloonei wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Dom wrote:I am principled.

What do you mean by this?

I am consistent.

I agree with that. You're definitely consistent.

What would you say to me if I told you I view consistency as a baddie trait as much as if not more than a townie trait?

I have done my best to remain logical and stay a fair judge of character. Don't know what to say.

Sloonei wrote:Who objects to an Epi lynch? Dom's frustration doesn't seem fabricated.

JJJ pulls support and you do too. Just like how you only supported it once JJJ did show suspicion of me. You are bad. You are badder than bad. You and Quin are so transparent.



I also literally said what the contradiction was in a post that you responded to-- more evidence that you're not even reading my posts. You and Quin don't care what I say, as long as it ends with me having hte most votes next to my name.


What the hell do we think of motel room jumping on me the second it's convenient?

I am reading your posts. They are not making sense to me. I am asking questions so that you will make better sense to me. I never voted for you. I was never firmly on your bandwagon.
Can you assume for a moment that I am town and try to look at the thread from that perspective?

Where have you done the same for me?
You're such a hypocrite.

motel room wrote:Moved to glorf. I have a meeting in 10 and a shit ton of ppl behind my desk. I'm a bit swayed by Dom's yelling. Not voting Sloonei. Lets try glorf.

For the record who didnt switch to Dom despite reading him bad?