The Syndicate

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:57 pm**

TFW you crack the case and townfirm Sprityo.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:00 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:30 pm I suppose it helps me that I already had two town reads before I showed up. Sprityo is the only player here I don't have a read of.
the town likes to assume im cecil based off a pure chance comparison DH made (which i quoted for you earlier) but of course infodumping is not allowed and so it's realistically up to you guys to believe if it's true

Its a townfirm afterall.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:08 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:00 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:30 pm I suppose it helps me that I already had two town reads before I showed up. Sprityo is the only player here I don't have a read of.
the town likes to assume im cecil based off a pure chance comparison DH made (which i quoted for you earlier) but of course infodumping is not allowed and so it's realistically up to you guys to believe if it's true
Its a townfirm afterall.

it's not a townfirm because you dont know cecil's alignment but i can assure you I, Sprityo, am town

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:09 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:08 pm
DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 8:02 pm Did you guys even get Chucks flip on Cerberus?
I believe we did, but the last week has been an exhausted blur for me so I might be creating false memories for convenience.

You know, now that I’m thinking about it, no we didn’t. We only got the lynch flip, not the nutella-induced flip.

It was a surprise to see it when I read the thread here

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm**

There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:17 pm**

sprityo is a civilian based largely on his role not being very useful to mafia.

That on its own isn't enough to clear him.

However, sprityo's activity helps in that regard, and I'm not inclined to vote for him any time soon.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.

It’s probably easier to believe someone’s info when you can read the thread verbatim and make out those eccentricities.

Plus speedchucks’s team member(s) probably wouldn’t have piled on him.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:22 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.
It’s probably easier to believe someone’s info when you can read the thread verbatim and make out those eccentricities.

Plus speedchucks’s team member(s) probably wouldn’t have piled on him.

Speedchuck's teammate is over here tho

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:32 pm**

Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:33 pm**

DharmaHelper wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:12 pm There are still multiple people over there who have seen speedchuck's flip and hopefully they've not all forgotten about it.
It’s probably easier to believe someone’s info when you can read the thread verbatim and make out those eccentricities.

Plus speedchucks’s team member(s) probably wouldn’t have piled on him.
Speedchuck's teammate is over here tho

We don’t know how many teammates are on each mafia team.

Do you?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:37 pm**

Google tells me Strexcorp is from Nightvale. I am unfamiliar with the product and did not play in that game. Anyone got info on the flavor?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:39 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:37 pm Google tells me Strexcorp is from Nightvale. I am unfamiliar with the product and did not play in that game. Anyone got info on the flavor?

Hell, I was Strexcorp and don't really remember it other than we were doomed from the getgo due to the setup.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:40 pm**

I had an extra vote or something like that, which meant I had to be care voting because I could be exposed. I remember that much. I was bad with Eloh and LC.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:41 pm**

if there is a kill tonight, and there are only 2 teams, that means Evil Evens kill tonite. It’s already lost 2 members, and the killer on the team can only target someone on their tribe. So I guess we’ll see if there is a kill and which tribe still has Evil Evens on it, if any.

This tribal switch is going to turn this game into a Sudoku to solve

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:45 pm**

If the "targeted abilities must target a member of your own tribe" rule applies to nightkills, we could also be in interesting territory.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:46 pm**

Interactive reads between Long Con/nutella and speedchuck might be illuminating. But he's not here.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:59 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:45 pm If the "targeted abilities must target a member of your own tribe" rule applies to nightkills, we could also be in interesting territory.

That is my thought.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:46 pm Interactive reads between Long Con/nutella and speedchuck might be illuminating. But he's not here.

Looking through that now in any case for possible combinations of teammate compatibilities on Pikachu

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:03 pm**

Oh, and that initial thought I had yesterday that a bad nutella = bad nijuu sounds more likely. And on opposing teams.

Why on God’s green earth would there be a masonry role where one person is bad and one person is good, and they can’t reveal names? Like how bogus would that be for nijuu??

I think nijuu is on Strexcorp [or another team god save the queen]

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:05 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:03 pm Oh, and that initial thought I had yesterday that a bad nutella = bad nijuu sounds more likely. And on opposing teams.

Why on God’s green earth would there be a masonry role where one person is bad and one person is good, and they can’t reveal names? Like how bogus would that be for nijuu??

I think nijuu is on Strexcorp [or another team god save the queen]

If the Evil Evens kill on even Nights, then Strex killed nijuukyugou, and so she didn't start out on their team.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm**

We talked in our thread about the possibility of a mafia team killing one of their own for credibility in a game where we all have two lives.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:11 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:05 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:03 pm Oh, and that initial thought I had yesterday that a bad nutella = bad nijuu sounds more likely. And on opposing teams.

Why on God’s green earth would there be a masonry role where one person is bad and one person is good, and they can’t reveal names? Like how bogus would that be for nijuu??

I think nijuu is on Strexcorp [or another team god save the queen]
If the Evil Evens kill on even Nights, then Strex killed nijuukyugou, and so she didn't start out on their team.

good point.

I guess she could have started indie or something. I hat don’t see a civ role being in that position. I would be pissed at my role if I learned i was good and btscing with mafia.

So she could be anything at this point then.

All assuming there are only 2 mafia teams.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:11 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm We talked in our thread about the possibility of a mafia team killing one of their own for credibility in a game where we all have two lives.

She did seem like an odd choice of kill N1.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:12 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm We talked in our thread about the possibility of a mafia team killing one of their own for credibility in a game where we all have two lives.

Which would be stupid. I cannot fathom a team seriously doing this.

I mean...I can. Long Con was here at one point.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:12 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm We talked in our thread about the possibility of a mafia team killing one of their own for credibility in a game where we all have two lives.
She did seem like an odd choice of kill N1.

She did. For all of the reasons Epi talked about.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:14 pm**

I still don't believe speedchuck was bad in his first incarnation.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:15 pm**

And I don't think speedchuck would have killed nijuukyugou.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm**

To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm**

This is speedchuck’s D1 rainbow. Posting for posterity.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:22 pm speedchuck
Long Con
sprityo
S~V~S
Quin
Epignosis
nutella
Dragon D Luffy
Dharmahelper
colonialbob
dom

Readlist

I would expect if Speedchuck had a teammate on this tribe (which isn’t definite), the teammate(s) would lie somewhere in the middle-low range. Not too high, not too low. Epi certainly fits that bill, but so does DDL and DH

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:14 pm I still don't believe speedchuck was bad in his first incarnation.

Well then, there is that possibility.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?

Day 1:

And then on night 1 she

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:22 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?
Day 1:

And then on night 1 she

That sounds about right.

What did Boomslang do?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm**

I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:24 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?
Day 1:

And then on night 1 she
That sounds about right.

What did Boomslang do?

Boomslang:
sig said some odd stuff and it came off as odd. [VOTE:

He had a total of 30 posts or so when we were swapped] aubergine

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:25 pm**

The fuck.

Fixed:

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:24 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:22 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:18 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:16 pm To the best of your ability, newcomers:

What did nijuukyugou do during Day 1 / Night 1?
Day 1:

And then on night 1 she
That sounds about right.

What did Boomslang do?
Boomslang:
sig said some odd stuff and it came off as odd. (vote sig)

He had a total of 30 posts or so when we were swapped

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:25 pm**

Sig made a comment about being "70% sure" that he'd submitted a haiku on Day 1 and Boomslang fixated on this as the focal point of a sig case. People suspected boomslang for this.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:26 pm**

Sloonei, has your opinion on Wilgy changed given the reveal?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.

Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:26 pm Sloonei, has your opinion on Wilgy changed given the reveal?

I would be going back to review wilgy/marmot interactions if I could right now. My POE pool in this tribe is pretty limited and he's one of the people still in it.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.
Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.

Just no.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:29 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:26 pm Sloonei, has your opinion on Wilgy changed given the reveal?
I would be going back to review wilgy/marmot interactions if I could right now. My POE pool in this tribe is pretty limited and he's one of the people still in it.

What does it mean to be "in it?"

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:31 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:29 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:26 pm Sloonei, has your opinion on Wilgy changed given the reveal?
I would be going back to review wilgy/marmot interactions if I could right now. My POE pool in this tribe is pretty limited and he's one of the people still in it.
What does it mean to be "in it?"

I could vote for wilgy.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:31 pm**

Also, that other tribe must be shitty as hell. I'd be losing my mind over there.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:32 pm**

Were missing votes a problem over there or something?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:33 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.
Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.
Just no.

No like you don’t think it’s possible or like, ‘nuh uh, girlfriend’?

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:34 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:31 pm Also, that other tribe must be shitty as hell. I'd be losing my mind over there.

I have some extra pills if you wanna meet my dealer

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:35 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:33 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:28 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:23 pm I just remembered speedchuck can't be nutella's/LC's teammate.
Here’s a theory:

Anyone not mafia in the first incarnation that becomes mafia in the 2nd incarnation gains an entirely new mafia team that gradually grows in members and stops once it reaches {3??} players. It would take over a kill of the first team that’s eliminated.

I dunno, that sounds like a cool setup. And annoying for us.
Just no.
No like you don’t think it’s possible or like, ‘nuh uh, girlfriend’?

If it's possible, then fuck this.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:36 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:32 pm Were missing votes a problem over there or something?

Inactivity and absenteeism in general were an issue.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:36 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:32 pm Were missing votes a problem over there or something?

I wouldn’t say that was the problem exactly- we definitely had days without 1-2 voters. Maybe 3 I don’t remember.

The problem was a stasis in agreement among who looked the most guilty. There were so many wallflowers that there were reasons for basically voting everyone. I don’t think we stuck with the same lynch from one day to another

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:37 pm**

Then I'm down to lynch Wilgy next.

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:46 pm**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:32 pm Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights

i'd like to point out it's also possible cecil just straight up didnt submit anything for night 4. i dont think the hosts would come on and say "cecil didnt send anything in tonight"

Posted: **Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:47 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:46 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:32 pm Here’s a very likely thing to note:
Strexcorp does not kill on even nights.

Marmot most definitely used his one-shot negation of night actions on N4, because not only was there no kill, Cecil didn’t post.

So either there was a protect of the NK target and someone blocked Cecil, or Marmot used his power on a night they didn’t kill. There is no reason to do so on a night that they would have had a chance to kill.

So therefore, if there are only 2 teams (Evil Evens and Strexcorp) then Evil Evens DO kill on even nights
i'd like to point out it's also possible cecil just straight up didnt submit anything for night 4. i dont think the hosts would come on and say "cecil didnt send anything in tonight"

Did he?

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