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Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine

Why?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:40 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:35 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:33 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:31 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:50 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
Why is Creature a better lynch than nutella?
I could see nutella being town because of burnout and too scummy to be scum.

I just can't see Creature being town. He isn't too scummy to be scum, he's just scum.
How is she twtbaw
I've played against baddie nutella who is trying hard, more than once. If this is baddie nutella it's a 3nd grade one. She isn't trying hard, regardless of alignment, and it could be that we are mistaking her lack of trying for alignment.

Just compare to Scrimmage. It took a whole game for me to start suspecting her and even then I wasn't very sure of it. nutella is good at this.

Im aware of scrimmage I’m just taking burnout into account to.

That also doesnt answer TWTBAW since that’s a meta read and not “basic wolf actions to help partner or just vaguely looks like scummy play”

I mean I guess in the mind of DDL that would be twtbaw for nutella!play wouldnt it

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:41 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:38 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:32 pm That said this probably isn't a good time to lynch Creature.

Which makes this a paradox I don't know how to untangle.
Why not? The time is always right to lynch your top suspect.

My vote is already there if you wanna follow me.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:42 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
Why?

Cooler vote switch

Dont remember anything he’s done today either?

Like he’s voting you outside of nutella and I dont remember that nor why he’d be townreading her

Actually it’s more of a “he could be coasting since I cannot remember anything he has done this day phase”

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:43 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:32 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:26 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:13 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:11 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:10 pm

What is Awful about the nutella wagon? Are there specific names on it that disturb you?
No it’s the fact there is a lack of a wagon outside of Nutella that makes it Awful
Why? Does “awful” mean “suspicious” or “bad town play”?
Bad town play

If nutella is town we’ve let scum have two run away lynches two days in a row

Usually when you have a scum lynch there’s always some push back on it. No one is town reading nutella

That either means she’s not scum, or scum have given up on saving her. There’s not really even some push back towards it.

If she’s scum then the apology from Lon Con is probably scum!motivated. If she’s town Then it could be either and is NAI
First, I can assure that isn't often the case here. It's never that easy.

Second, the teams are now small enough as it stands. Who is going to raise a voice to support a teammate?
Oh i dont like that rip

Town. Usually scum would be towny enough for someone to raise a point in their favor. And like, I Know nutella hasnt done anything to be town read and want to vote her myself

But at the same time Nothing Is Happening and If She Is Town I will feel bad for letting scum get an easy lynch again.

Anyway the point of “no one is town reading her” is mostly regarding the fact that scum would’ve done enough to get someone to town read them.

However, nutella has also attested to the fact she has not been Here and has not Done Anything which is why I’m kinda shrugs about it.

I just want another wagon in case she flips town so I can at least be like “yah okay I’m comfortable going into d4 and investing this dude”
I mean if nutella is the last speedster then it's not gonna be a hard lynch anyway.

Same for Deathstroke.

Fuck, maybe she's bad with Creature and we got their team pinned down so what can they really do?

This feels too easy lol

Especially since creature has like, vanished into the night

Also what do you mean re: Deathstroke?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm**

I mean I'm just listing every scum possibility for nutella.

If she is deathstroke nobody will defend her.

That said I would expect a nutella who drawed freaking Deathstroke to have more enthusiasm. The "last speedster" theory is more interesting, in that sense.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
Why?
Cooler vote switch

Dont remember anything he’s done today either?

Like he’s voting you outside of nutella and I dont remember that nor why he’d be townreading her

Actually it’s more of a “he could be coasting since I cannot remember anything he has done this day phase”

Is this post compatible with a Cooler/Creature partnership?

I also have no idea why he's voting for me, for what it's worth.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm**

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

let's make this interesting

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm**

Like I dont think nutella is the last speedster if she’s mafia

I also dont know where I’d put creature on my “list of scum vs. list of scum role maybe left in the game”

Like it’d make sense if her burnout happened because speedchuck was mafia and he died and she was apart of the other team though

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm**

I'm confident Sloonei is a civ as much as I was confident Jay was bad last game.

He just has IT.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:25 pm Actually since it’s day 3 and the cult recruits during the last night phase and yet no wincon has been establish that means either

A) None of that team has been killed
B) roleblocked?
C) i had a c but it escapes me

C) scum found Laura

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:47 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm I mean I'm just listing every scum possibility for nutella.

If she is deathstroke nobody will defend her.

That said I would expect a nutella who drawed freaking Deathstroke to have more enthusiasm. The "last speedster" theory is more interesting, in that sense.

Yeah exactly I feel like town would be more “this is town she’s doing stuff” like people were for Jay last game

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:48 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:44 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:42 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:39 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:34 pm Tbf the lynch I would prefer outside of nutella today would be Ultra so
[VOTE: Ultra] aubergine
Why?
Cooler vote switch

Dont remember anything he’s done today either?

Like he’s voting you outside of nutella and I dont remember that nor why he’d be townreading her

Actually it’s more of a “he could be coasting since I cannot remember anything he has done this day phase”
Is this post compatible with a Cooler/Creature partnership?

I also have no idea why he's voting for me, for what it's worth.

It’s distancing

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:48 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm I'm confident Sloonei is a civ as much as I was confident Jay was bad last game.

He just has IT.

What's wrong boo?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:49 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm I'm confident Sloonei is a civ as much as I was confident Jay was bad last game.

He just has IT.
What's wrong boo?

With you, nothing. You are supatowning.

Keep doing what you are doing. Well, minus the part about lynching me.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:49 pm**

My issue with nutella is simple:

She has gone after Sloonei and whatever she brought up against him I can't remember. Sloonei is the most vocal person here (ugh). If there were significant points against him, I would recall them. I even asked for a reprise of the reasons people thought he was bad, and received no answer.

In this particular setup, Sloonei would likely draw all manner of civilian Night actions, not unlike what happened in Steely Dan Mafia. That means killing him would be tricky. If he could be eliminated by the civilian faction's primary weapon, then grand, right?

And there certainly was traction on that front.

I think that was a hail Mary and nutella has conceded.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm**

Like if they’re scum that’s an easy point to come back to and go “scum wouldnt act like this!!”

Just like ultra/ jay in scrimmage.

He’s just shading ultra there. There’s no read from it and no vote anyway so it’s still inside their potential scum!Team ability

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm**

Epi what if he got cult!converted :S

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S

What are cults and why are you worried about them?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:49 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:48 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:46 pm I'm confident Sloonei is a civ as much as I was confident Jay was bad last game.

He just has IT.
What's wrong boo?
With you, nothing. You are supatowning.

Keep doing what you are doing. Well, minus the part about lynching me.

Why shouldn't I do that? Why did you bring up this read of me after I voted for you?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)

is this a pocket

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S

My goal would still be to eliminate the bad guys.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?

They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
My goal would still be to eliminate the bad guys.

I’m not saying it wasnt lol I was making a Joak

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket

Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm**

[VOTE: DDL] aubergine

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura

The cult only recruits on even nights. They have a max of 2 members right now.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket
Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.

nutella, possibly wigly

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm**

Folks if you are gonna be serious about me then can you try to lynch Creature first? Because not lynching me is one good reason to vote for Creature which I suppose is not a paradox.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm Folks if you are gonna be serious about me then can you try to lynch Creature first? Because not lynching me is one good reason to vote for Creature which I suppose is not a paradox.

I'm listening.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm Folks if you are gonna be serious about me then can you try to lynch Creature first? Because not lynching me is one good reason to vote for Creature which I suppose is not a paradox.
I'm listening.

You are not going to get more than that.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura

Who cares? Their job is to whittle down mafia, same as mine. I have no problem with that.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:57 pm**

For posterity
Ddl is on creature. For whatever reason my phone refused to show that

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:57 pm**

Can someone explain why DDL has four votes?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm**

[mention]leetic[/mention]

HI LEETIC HI

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm**

leetic left one day he'll notice me

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket
Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.
nutella, possibly wigly

Any Wilgy case I could have possibly had before got blended with past memories of Wilgy which involve me reading him wrong at least 5 times.

I guess I should reread your catch up posts to see what you think of him.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
The cult only recruits on even nights. They have a max of 2 members right now.

I reread the cult ability and forgot there were two teams I had to add up and account for

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket
Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.
nutella, possibly wigly
Any Wilgy case I could have possibly had before got blended with past memories of Wilgy which involve me reading him wrong at least 5 times.

I guess I should reread your catch up posts to see what you think of him.

i'd advise against it haha. whatever's in spoilers is usually useful only to me

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:00 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:57 pm Can someone explain why DDL has four votes?

Generally unremarkable play, tried to nudge people off of Cooler Day 1, uninspiring presence right now, I wanted to make the poll tight again.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:01 pm**

Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
Who cares? Their job is to whittle down mafia, same as mine. I have no problem with that.

I wasnt saying that I was just thinking they should’ve won should league of assassins lost a member

But forgot it was for Both Teams

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:01 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:56 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm Folks if you are gonna be serious about me then can you try to lynch Creature first? Because not lynching me is one good reason to vote for Creature which I suppose is not a paradox.
I'm listening.
You are not going to get more than that.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:03 pm**

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket
Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.
nutella, possibly wigly
Any Wilgy case I could have possibly had before got blended with past memories of Wilgy which involve me reading him wrong at least 5 times.

I guess I should reread your catch up posts to see what you think of him.
i'd advise against it haha. whatever's in spoilers is usually useful only to me

I mean, seriously, I SUCK at reading Wilgy. I suck at reading a lot of people in this site but Wilgy is probably Top 3. I'd sooner try to read Mac again.

The one time I caught Wilgy it was in lylo and I didn't have more than a hunch so I got lynched in his place.

And worse, everyone else sucks at reading Wilgy too. A Wilgy lynch is a crapshoot.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 pm**

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:03 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:58 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:55 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:52 pm
Dragon D. Luffy wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 8:45 pm Girl it seems more likely that we are mind melding than thunderdoming.

(I can't believe the sentence above makes sense. lol mafia)
is this a pocket
Why does every townread have to be pocketing or TMI these days.

I'm just saying I agree with almost everything you say.

Who do you think we should lynch? Besides me, ofc.
nutella, possibly wigly
Any Wilgy case I could have possibly had before got blended with past memories of Wilgy which involve me reading him wrong at least 5 times.

I guess I should reread your catch up posts to see what you think of him.
i'd advise against it haha. whatever's in spoilers is usually useful only to me
I mean, seriously, I SUCK at reading Wilgy. I suck at reading a lot of people in this site but Wilgy is probably Top 3. I'd sooner try to read Mac again.

The one time I caught Wilgy it was in lylo and I didn't have more than a hunch so I got lynched in his place.

And worse, everyone else sucks at reading Wilgy too. A Wilgy lynch is a crapshoot.

so he's an unreliable lynch?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 pm**

I'll help DDL out a bit here: For the third time, my biggest concern about Creature is that none of his reads have developed into anything. Some of them come and go like they were never there in the first place. At one point he sheeped a suspicion on MafiaMenace and then forgot what MafiaMenace had done to be suspicious. Changing one's mind can be an town quality, but it can also reflect forgetfulness of fake reads. I can see the latter in his posts, partially because he telegraphs none of his thoughts. They just exist in vacuums.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:05 pm**

Yes, but he's in this game so we are doomed to once again, consider a Wilgy lynch.

Ugh.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:05 pm**

I have a soft town read on wilgy at the moment.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:05 pm**

Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:59 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:54 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:53 pm
Epignosis wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:51 pm
Luxurious wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 9:50 pm Epi what if he got cult!converted :S
What are cults and why are you worried about them?
They’re the independent and they should’ve won last night upon converting someone

But either they’re dead >speed >juliets?????

Or the other scum team still has their full team, and even then!!! They may have recruited Laura
The cult only recruits on even nights. They have a max of 2 members right now.
I reread the cult ability and forgot there were two teams I had to add up and account for

How'd you forget there were two teams?

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:06 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Sun May 26, 2019 10:04 pm I'll help DDL out a bit here: For the third time, my biggest concern about Creature is that none of his reads have developed into anything. Some of them come and go like they were never there in the first place. At one point he sheeped a suspicion on MafiaMenace and then forgot what MafiaMenace had done to be suspicious. Changing one's mind can be an town quality, but it can also reflect forgetfulness of fake reads. I can see the latter in his posts, partially because he telegraphs none of his thoughts. They just exist in vacuums.

Ok.

Then join me and lynch Creature.

Posted: **Sun May 26, 2019 10:07 pm**

howd u forget again? why'd you even post that [mention]Luxurious[/mention]

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