The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm I think LC is town. Likely if I were scum my scum partner has taken the target of me or LC. I’m not helping the case by defending LC.
Only speed has
oh I see a problem here

Now I'm just more confused.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm I think he's saying he should look good for defending LC/removing him from the poe? Remind us of your reasoning for doing so?
Self vote, general town spirit

K

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:57 pm**

I think LC is incompatible with Speedchuck for reasons I’ll get into later when my other hand isn’t on the piano. Given that, I think that the space must be wider and Speed is by far a more likely candidate

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:58 pm**

Though wagonomics suggests something like the following: a four member mafia, knowing that they have a second kill the following night, go all out on defending their teammate day 2. Speed’s vote only makes any sort of sense if he’s mafia and if scum also has a vote manipulation power which ruins the argument against LC.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm**

Hot take: "Wagonomics" is an even worse term than "equity"

It's just awful

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm I think LC is town. Likely if I were scum my scum partner has taken the target of me or LC. I’m not helping the case by defending LC.
Only speed has
oh I see a problem here
Now I'm just more confused.

my argument doesn’t hold if my teammate is speed because he also has voiced suspicion of FG but I figured that halfway through

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm Hot take: "Wagonomics" is an even worse term than "equity"

It's just awful

I was right all along it’s Nutella

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:03 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:55 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:54 pm I think LC is town. Likely if I were scum my scum partner has taken the target of me or LC. I’m not helping the case by defending LC.
Only speed has
oh I see a problem here
Now I'm just more confused.
my argument doesn’t hold if my teammate is speed because he also has voiced suspicion of FG but I figured that halfway through

......

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:05 pm**

Why are you still suspicious of funnygurl, tony?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:05 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 1:58 pm Though wagonomics suggests something like the following: a four member mafia, knowing that they have a second kill the following night, go all out on defending their teammate day 2. Speed’s vote only makes any sort of sense if he’s mafia and if scum also has a vote manipulation power which ruins the argument against LC.

What second kill are you referring to?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:07 pm**

Wait yeah what??

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:08 pm**

The unclaimed kill we’re all either assuming was or wasn’t Mac?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:08 pm**

Tony been done did outed his dang self.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:09 pm**

Targeted at someone who was about to be mechanically cleared?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:11 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:09 pm Targeted at someone who was about to be mechanically cleared?

Once again I need you to help me out here. What?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:12 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:09 pm Targeted at someone who was about to be mechanically cleared?

How?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:12 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:08 pm The unclaimed kill we’re all either assuming was or wasn’t Mac?

I’ve been comfortable assigning that kill to Mac. I’m not sure I am now.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:27 pm**

Is that actually a slip?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:31 pm**

When exactly was Sloonei given the apple?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:31 pm When exactly was Sloonei given the apple?

To my knowledge, Sunday around 4:30-5 my time (7:30-8 Eastern) so about a day before the end of Day 2 (though he could only use it during the night)

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm**

And did they know the apple was a kill?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:36 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm And did they know the apple was a kill?

Either a kill or a protection.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:41 pm**

Okay, so Tony is likely not referring to the apple here then. Rats.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:42 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:31 pm When exactly was Sloonei given the apple?
To my knowledge, Sunday around 4:30-5 my time (7:30-8 Eastern) so about a day before the end of Day 2 (though he could only use it during the night)

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:36 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:35 pm And did they know the apple was a kill?
Either a kill or a protection.

Ja.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:41 pm Okay, so Tony is likely not referring to the apple here then. Rats.

...so?

I assumed he was referring to the Ted kill that most of us decided was probably by Mac

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm**

How did you know it was an apple, michael?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:31 pm When exactly was Sloonei given the apple?

what apple

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm How did you know it was an apple, michael?

You said so in the thread at some point. Even Jay and I didn't know that

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:04 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:02 pm Was there fruit with the gun?
It was presented to me as a golden apple

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:44 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm How did you know it was an apple, michael?
You said so in the thread at some point. Even Jay and I didn't know that

SHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:44 pm**

jesus guys come on i'm trying to lay a trap here.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:44 pm**

If ts account wants Sloonei to be a mafioso so bad it hurts, then ts account is a civilian.

This is subject to interpretation, obviously. So: interpret.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm**

Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:44 pm If ts account wants Sloonei to be a mafioso so bad it hurts, then ts account is a civilian.

This is subject to interpretation, obviously. So: interpret.

I've already concluded that speed and tony are the remaining mafia.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:44 pm If ts account wants Sloonei to be a mafioso so bad it hurts, then ts account is a civilian.

This is subject to interpretation, obviously. So: interpret.

If there is room for me to be right, then I will squeeze right in there.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm**

ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...

I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:47 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:05 pm Why are you still suspicious of funnygurl, tony?

still unanswered

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.

Why and how?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm**

I think the best thing going for Tony had been his interaction with Turnip Head. That will need another look.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:49 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.

Clearly they are not as Tony just said what apple ;)

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:49 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm I think the best thing going for Tony had been his interaction with Turnip Head. That will need another look.

I remember disliking TH's mentions of Tony, fwiw.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.
Why and how?

Details of the message in which it was delivered to me.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:52 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:49 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm I think the best thing going for Tony had been his interaction with Turnip Head. That will need another look.
I remember disliking TH's mentions of Tony, fwiw.

Could be valid. I've a vague memory of a connection that could be drawn three-ways from TH to Tony through speedchuck. speed was awkwardly antagonistic of Turnip Head in a way that he wasn't of most others -- with the exception of Tony (I think; I need to verify). There's room for a trend to emerge wherein a mafioso speedchuck telegraphed his teammates by being too mean to them. Hi Epignosis.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:53 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.
Why and how?
Details of the message in which it was delivered to me.

This wouldn't surprise me. Our Things were often portrayed as being of a give-and-take nature -- there's some risk involved.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:54 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:53 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:46 pm
ts account wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:45 pm Sorry I did not refresh in time. But yes, you mentioned it in the thread. If you had not, how would I have known you had an apple? Unless we were scumbuds...
I have reason to believe the mafia team was aware of the apple before I used it.
Why and how?
Details of the message in which it was delivered to me.
This wouldn't surprise me. Our Things were often portrayed as being of a give-and-take nature -- there's some risk involved.

Yeah... I hope we didn't screw up.

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:55 pm**

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:05 pm [VOTE: Turnip Head] aubergine

Really cool. Goes nowhere

speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:09 pm
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:11 pm I'm not really considering it seriously, just entertaining a reality where it exists
This bad.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:03 am
Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:45 am Leetic feels cornered
What's the point you're making? He's civilian because he's being pushed into a wall or is he scum because he reacts poorly?
Which one do you think I meant? If you had to guess
This bad.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:24 pm Something is wrong with Long Con. He doesn't usually play with this tight of a grip. Like a rattlesnake getting all coiled up. He often gets suspected early and I'm one of the first to rush to his defense because I recognize his town game but this is off-meta for him and I think he knows it
This bad.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:36 am Epi is bringing an unnecessarily hostile tone to an otherwise reasonable thread, idk what that means really just an observation
This bad.

None of these would be bad alone, but there is no good in between them.

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?

speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:57 am
Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:55 am
speedchuck wrote: ↑Mon Apr 06, 2020 10:50 am Actually TSP doesn't have a single read on me in his ISO that is accompanied by reasons.

Does he have reasons for anyone else?
he had some reasons for suspecting me but it didn't warrant his voting me yesterday

i think he's scummy do you think he's scummy?
Yeah I'd mark him as scummy.

There are other reasons I might explain after I vote.

[VOTE: Tonystarkprime] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:55 pm**

Things? As in, you have given other players items?

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:56 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:02 pm Hot take: "Wagonomics" is an even worse term than "equity"

It's just awful

i mean the word might sound weird but it's great info

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:57 pm**

tsp if we believe here that lc is incompatible with speedchuck, then lc is incompatible with me mikey and speedchuck fmpov

which means lc is town (which is the likely scenario here anyway)

then the game's solved

i'm gonna go ahead and make a case for this got my cup of joe on my right im ready here we go here we go

Posted: **Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:58 pm**

Wagonomics is terrible.

Equity is terrible.

EV is terrible.

Sticking an exclamation mark into a two-word phrase to indicate a hypothetical e.g. scum!JJJ is terrible.

"____ is always mafia here" is terrible.

WIM is terrible.

Lingo is terrible.

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