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Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:10 pm
by nutella
[mention]Carotenoid[/mention]

nutella wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:05 pm KZA wagon is garbo

@Sloonei I think at least 2 scum have sheeped your case to get a misyeet wagon going, and I still think KZA is townie anyway, hope you'll reconsider
20 minutes later
Marcher Jovian wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:29 pm Not gonna do KZA today.
Let’s try this [VOTE: Lissa[/Lissa]] aubergine

dunya wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:34 pm [VOTE: [VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine] aubergine
[VOTE:



don't think this is necessarily one of the strongest reasons to townread me but it kind of is a thing that happened]
aubergine

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:10 pm
by nutella
oops

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
by nutella
anyway. yeah I change my reads around. if anything that is town-indicative. and I've remained pretty consistent in my scumread of TH especially, and to a lesser extent TSP and OW

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
by bronana
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:13 pm
by Marcher Jovian
I mean it’s not a townread, it’s an I don’t want you voted today and am trying out town!nutella, like I am with town!KZA. If you suck tomorrow I’ll take that into account. I just don’t want to let the thread sleepwalk into bad elims just cuz the momentum’s there

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:13 pm
by Carotenoid
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm anyway. yeah I change my reads around. if anything that is town-indicative. and I've remained pretty consistent in my scumread of TH especially, and to a lesser extent TSP and OW
Why didn't you vote Turnip Head when a wagon formed on them?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:14 pm
by bronana
I really like and follow carot's nutella case fwiw

also MR was pretty insistent that nutella was a wolf

plus I've had my own problems with her

I think I'm going to stay on marcher, but I wouldn't mind nutella and wilgy wagons either.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm
by Marcher Jovian
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
It wasn’t even a masonry read, it was “these people are being really weird about each other and I think they’re softing masons so I want to implicate that I get that and am backing away” then immediately coming clean and admitting the plan the moment she got results.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm
by Marcher Jovian
Like that sort of sceme just always comes from town

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm
by Marcher Jovian
*scheme

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm
by Sloonei
[VOTE: nutella] aubergine

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:16 pm
by Lissa
[VOTE: marcher jovian] aubergine

Re: Pyre Mafia [Night 1]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:16 pm
by Marcher Jovian
nutella wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:48 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:43 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:24 pm
Spoiler: show
Lissa wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:23 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:12 pm
Lissa wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:10 pm
nutella wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 8:49 pm okay, I'm beginning to get a sense we should lay off the carotte/jovian pair for now
I... what

How
maybe I'm seeing things that aren't there but

it's a feeling
your whole sequence of posting about this is pretty weird
yeah that's not an accident. I'm waiting til they talk more
That's the second time today nutella acknowledges she's doing ?? stuff but doesn't address the substance of it.
Yeah this isn't quite what I was looking for tbh


I thought you were soft claiming masonry, and I didn't want to be too overt about it in case you wanted to keep it on the downlow and so I was deliberately cagey enough to leave it up to you if you wanted to claim on your own terms but was hoping you'd understand that I was catching on if that was the case. Since you are instead just shading me and saying I'm being weird I'm now more confident you're just a wolf.


This was a fun little experiment though.
Here was post btw

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:16 pm
by bronana
I mean if you are masons not claiming eod1 would have been asinine

it's a weird read of the situation IMO

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:17 pm
by Marcher Jovian
Sloonei no

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:17 pm
by Carotenoid
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
oh I found in your ISO it was actually outed wolf

here
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1906&p=620965#p620965
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1906&p=622005#p622005

Didn't know what masonry before so I'm kinda still thinking about that but it's not really inspiring from both nutella and Marcher Jovian

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
by nutella
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
TH is the other one who brought it up, and since I already suspect them I thought they might have tmi and so it strengthened my read

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
by nutella
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:13 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm anyway. yeah I change my reads around. if anything that is town-indicative. and I've remained pretty consistent in my scumread of TH especially, and to a lesser extent TSP and OW
Why didn't you vote Turnip Head when a wagon formed on them?
what?

I did

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by nutella
I voted TH like before anyone else iirc? I'm currently on OW now but am happy with TH being a leading wagon

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by Marcher Jovian
You know visor’s probably asleep right now I should vote someone else

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by bronana
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:17 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
oh I found in your ISO it was actually outed wolf

here
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1906&p=620965#p620965
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1906&p=622005#p622005

Didn't know what masonry before so I'm kinda still thinking about that but it's not really inspiring from both nutella and Marcher Jovian
marcher has a bizarre combination of being confident that person is town and people are dumb for thinking otherwise, and then immediately hedging on it?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by nutella
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:14 pm I really like and follow carot's nutella case fwiw

also MR was pretty insistent that nutella was a wolf

plus I've had my own problems with her

I think I'm going to stay on marcher, but I wouldn't mind nutella and wilgy wagons either.
you of all people should have me as town

you mindmelded with me a bunch on d1

I basically outright claimed having helped you but maybe you just missed that

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
by Marcher Jovian
[VOTE: Lissa] aubergine

Will people vote Lissa now?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:20 pm
by bronana
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:19 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:14 pm I really like and follow carot's nutella case fwiw

also MR was pretty insistent that nutella was a wolf

plus I've had my own problems with her

I think I'm going to stay on marcher, but I wouldn't mind nutella and wilgy wagons either.
you of all people should have me as town

you mindmelded with me a bunch on d1

I basically outright claimed having helped you but maybe you just missed that
i mean

my d1 reads were kinda bad tho

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by nutella
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Lissa wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:16 pm [VOTE: marcher jovian] aubergine
disappointing


elim should really be within TH/OW, I really feel those slots have the highest chance of flipping red

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by bronana
why would you target me with that?

i was never gonna get wagoned anyway and i actually thought there was a pretty good chance i was nightkilled

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm
by Turnip Head
It's funny that Nutella thinks the mason thing was TMI when she had hinted at having the same thought only a few posts before mine :kadaj: I was just the first person to use the word Mason and I did it to potentially help others understand the situation as they read through that part of the thread

It's like she actively doesn't want to mindmeld with me :pout:

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:22 pm
by nutella
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm why would you target me with that?

i was never gonna get wagoned anyway and i actually thought there was a pretty good chance i was nightkilled
for the stat buffs primarily

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:22 pm
by Turnip Head
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm
Sloonei wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:15 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine
Lissa wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:16 pm [VOTE: marcher jovian] aubergine
disappointing


elim should really be within TH/OW, I really feel those slots have the highest chance of flipping red
Why those two. Outed wolf has not been a particularly popular discussion topic?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:23 pm
by Carotenoid
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:13 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm anyway. yeah I change my reads around. if anything that is town-indicative. and I've remained pretty consistent in my scumread of TH especially, and to a lesser extent TSP and OW
Why didn't you vote Turnip Head when a wagon formed on them?
what?

I did
You voted them at the beginning when no on was and then switched on outed wolf
Turnip Head had like 3 votes at some point, why not pressure the slot more if it's one of your strong scumread?
(cf Interesting™ moment)

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:23 pm
by tedxtr
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm why would you target me with that?

i was never gonna get wagoned anyway and i actually thought there was a pretty good chance i was nightkilled
Level 1 NKA would say that given none of you or Lissa were killed, it means that the scum team may be comprised of syndicate regulars that only had the D1 as a baseline for your skills

Do i choose to believe this for a bit? Hmm

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
by nutella
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm It's funny that Nutella thinks the mason thing was TMI when she had hinted at having the same thought only a few posts before mine :kadaj: I was just the first person to use the word Mason and I did it to potentially help others understand the situation as they read through that part of the thread

It's like she actively doesn't want to mindmeld with me :pout:
and yet I approached it in a way based in uncertainty and not being sure if I was seeing it correctly and thinking they could still just be w/w

hence the cageyness to see how they continued to talk about each other


you were much more direct which I think could indicate tmi

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
by tedxtr
That’s assuming you’re both villas which hell if I know :wiz:

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
by Carotenoid
(Anyway, I'm taking a nap and hoping I'll wake up before EoD zzz)

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:25 pm
by bronana
tedxtr wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:23 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm why would you target me with that?

i was never gonna get wagoned anyway and i actually thought there was a pretty good chance i was nightkilled
Level 1 NKA would say that given none of you or Lissa were killed, it means that the scum team may be comprised of syndicate regulars that only had the D1 as a baseline for your skills

Do i choose to believe this for a bit? Hmm
if carot is villa, i could see them seeing my eod1 and n1 posts and mistakenly thinking i would spend d2 tunneling her

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:25 pm
by nutella
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:23 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:13 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm anyway. yeah I change my reads around. if anything that is town-indicative. and I've remained pretty consistent in my scumread of TH especially, and to a lesser extent TSP and OW
Why didn't you vote Turnip Head when a wagon formed on them?
what?

I did
You voted them at the beginning when no on was and then switched on outed wolf
Turnip Head had like 3 votes at some point, why not pressure the slot more if it's one of your strong scumread?
(cf Interesting™ moment)
because obviously that showed that the pressure on them was increasing anyway??

and I wanted to pressure OW as well because he was being extremely wolfy at that point

I'm not concerned about TH not getting enough pressure at this point

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
by bronana
let's put DrWilgy back on the menu.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
by Lissa
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
TH is the other one who brought it up, and since I already suspect them I thought they might have tmi and so it strengthened my read
uh

what

you thought they had tmi for having the same read as you on the situation?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
by Marcher Jovian
tedxtr wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:23 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm why would you target me with that?

i was never gonna get wagoned anyway and i actually thought there was a pretty good chance i was nightkilled
Level 1 NKA would say that given none of you or Lissa were killed, it means that the scum team may be comprised of syndicate regulars that only had the D1 as a baseline for your skills

Do i choose to believe this for a bit? Hmm
I mean the nk can also point to “mafia is happy with threadstate and wants to kill someone low-impact but unlikely to get elim’d”, which considering where we’re at right now seems to be working.

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
by Turnip Head
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm It's funny that Nutella thinks the mason thing was TMI when she had hinted at having the same thought only a few posts before mine :kadaj: I was just the first person to use the word Mason and I did it to potentially help others understand the situation as they read through that part of the thread

It's like she actively doesn't want to mindmeld with me :pout:
and yet I approached it in a way based in uncertainty and not being sure if I was seeing it correctly and thinking they could still just be w/w

hence the cageyness to see how they continued to talk about each other


you were much more direct which I think could indicate tmi
How is one more wolfy than the other? And how could it be TMI anyways, that doesn't really make sense?

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:27 pm
by nutella
Lissa wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:18 pm
bronana wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:12 pm
Carotenoid wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:01 pm #1983 She’s saying she thought we were masonry, which Marcher Jovian thought comes only from town but I think bronana mentioned this first, so she might have just picked that up from him and scramble something like that. Anyway, conclusion is she’s confident I’m a wolf
I don't think I ever mentioned masons as a possibility

interesting MJ thought it was towny of nutella, do you have a link? I specifically remember the one time I made a "masonry" read in the thread on two people who were inexplicably townreading each other was when I was a wolf, and I was worried that I'd slipped that i knew both were villagers
TH is the other one who brought it up, and since I already suspect them I thought they might have tmi and so it strengthened my read
uh

what

you thought they had tmi for having the same read as you on the situation?
I thought they weren't going about alluding to it in a protown way

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:28 pm
by Turnip Head
I would say I went about it in the most protown way possible. Explicitly bring attention to the possibility so that other townies aren't walking around all confused like "why are MJ and carot so defensive of one another, could they be wolves HMMMM?"

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:29 pm
by nutella
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:26 pm
nutella wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:24 pm
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:21 pm It's funny that Nutella thinks the mason thing was TMI when she had hinted at having the same thought only a few posts before mine :kadaj: I was just the first person to use the word Mason and I did it to potentially help others understand the situation as they read through that part of the thread

It's like she actively doesn't want to mindmeld with me :pout:
and yet I approached it in a way based in uncertainty and not being sure if I was seeing it correctly and thinking they could still just be w/w

hence the cageyness to see how they continued to talk about each other


you were much more direct which I think could indicate tmi
How is one more wolfy than the other? And how could it be TMI anyways, that doesn't really make sense?
I feel like I made it pretty clear how it's tmi? I was trying to solve whether I had the right intuition but still concerned that they might just be w/w. you seemed to jump straight to them both being town without hesitance

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by Turnip Head
But how is that TMI.......

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by Turnip Head
And you're wrong btw

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by nutella
Turnip Head wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:28 pm I would say I went about it in the most protown way possible. Explicitly bring attention to the possibility so that other townies aren't walking around all confused like "why are MJ and carot so defensive of one another, could they be wolves HMMMM?"
well alright I can chalk this up to a difference in game philosophy I guess

but you're still a wolf for other reasons

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by bronana
Turnip Head wrote: Sat Jun 27, 2020 9:25 pm Rip tuutuluu

Carotenoid could be town and Jovian wolf, or they could be blatant masons, but I kinda doubt they're wolfmates

Might start with a tsp vote, I'm not as keen on trusting my own gut today after what I did to poor radishes yesterday
this is almost the exact read you had made on the slot nutella

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by Turnip Head
I did not just jump straight to it without hesitance

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:30 pm
by Turnip Head
Check the facts

Re: Pyre Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:31 pm
by nutella
ok