The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:04 pm**

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm Ok so this discussion is going nowhere but

1) if I'm worried someone is going to catch me as scum I have a few options, including pocketing, nightkilling or just plain ignoring them. Asking my partner to loverize them and then bussing my partner is a pretty absurd theory. It makes more sense to just nightkill you in that scenario. At any rate, I had enough clout in the game that desperation plays like that don't make sense regardless. You aren't exeing me on D2.

If this is Alison speaking, you legit didn't do any of those things in GoC when you were 3P. In fact, in that game, you resorted to tactics that you open admitted to never using before -- thus, I don't trust any argument you make where you say you would or wouldn't do something as scum.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 2) If I came into the day planning to bus H&V I wouldn't out a readslist having them as a townread early on in D2.

Poop had them as a townread, too, early on in D2, before sudden pairing me and H&V up as a possible V/W pair. I'll ask you the same thing that I asked Poop -- why did you suddenly have a townread on them coming into D2? What did you find that was towny? The reason I ask this is that they were practically ignored D1. Nobody really talked about them or talked to them.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 3) I think a lot of the characteristics you're identifying as opportunistic are like, just the way nutella and I play. We see scummy shit, we jump on it. If someone claims a night action that is absolutely anti-town, I'm going to vote that person until I get a good explanation for why they did it. I don't know if it's a playstyle clash or what that's causing you to view that as scummy, but I personally believe town should not hold back from making forceful pushes when new info crops up, or when someone makes a really wolfy post.

In general I think you're (as Mac loves to say) jumping the shark. The stuff you're saying is scummy for us is literally just the way we play.

So, you'd jump on it, even if it results in OUR death, too? This is why I'm skeptical of you doing it specifically in H&V's case. Chopping or killing H&V is just a roundabout way to kill me without having to call me scummy.

- Hyena

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:05 pm**

I had a townread on them because Urist omgussed me very hard when I outed a scumread on him in a very butthurt gamer kid manner which is his town meta.

Dunno if anyone ever answered you before.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:06 pm**

I would encourage people not to vote mana i have reasonable reason (ugly sentence im sorry) to think they're town

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:07 pm**

Well I have reason to believe their claim anyways and that's good enough for me today

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:07 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:06 pm I would encourage people not to vote mana i have reasonable reason (ugly sentence im sorry) to think they're town

Which is?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:08 pm**

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:07 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:06 pm I would encourage people not to vote mana i have reasonable reason (ugly sentence im sorry) to think they're town
Which is?

A secret

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:08 pm**

[VOTE: Akemi Hazelnut] aubergine

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:09 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:04 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm Ok so this discussion is going nowhere but

1) if I'm worried someone is going to catch me as scum I have a few options, including pocketing, nightkilling or just plain ignoring them. Asking my partner to loverize them and then bussing my partner is a pretty absurd theory. It makes more sense to just nightkill you in that scenario. At any rate, I had enough clout in the game that desperation plays like that don't make sense regardless. You aren't exeing me on D2.
If this is Alison speaking, you legit didn't do any of those things in GoC when you were 3P. In fact, in that game, you resorted to tactics that you open admitted to never using before -- thus, I don't trust any argument you make where you say you would or wouldn't do something as scum.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 2) If I came into the day planning to bus H&V I wouldn't out a readslist having them as a townread early on in D2.
Poop had them as a townread, too, early on in D2, before sudden pairing me and H&V up as a possible V/W pair. I'll ask you the same thing that I asked Poop -- why did you suddenly have a townread on them coming into D2? What did you find that was towny? The reason I ask this is that they were practically ignored D1. Nobody really talked about them or talked to them.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 3) I think a lot of the characteristics you're identifying as opportunistic are like, just the way nutella and I play. We see scummy shit, we jump on it. If someone claims a night action that is absolutely anti-town, I'm going to vote that person until I get a good explanation for why they did it. I don't know if it's a playstyle clash or what that's causing you to view that as scummy, but I personally believe town should not hold back from making forceful pushes when new info crops up, or when someone makes a really wolfy post.

In general I think you're (as Mac loves to say) jumping the shark. The stuff you're saying is scummy for us is literally just the way we play.
So, you'd jump on it, even if it results in OUR death, too? This is why I'm skeptical of you doing it specifically in H&V's case. Chopping or killing H&V is just a roundabout way to kill me without having to call me scummy.

- Hyena

None of what you're saying here seems meaningful except broadly as a description of how Alison and nutella play/approach the game

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:10 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:08 pm
Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:07 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:06 pm I would encourage people not to vote mana i have reasonable reason (ugly sentence im sorry) to think they're town
Which is?
A secret

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:10 pm**

Tbf I've seen you have reads i thought that about that ended up being correct so do your thing ig

I don't see it tho

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:11 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:09 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:04 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm Ok so this discussion is going nowhere but

1) if I'm worried someone is going to catch me as scum I have a few options, including pocketing, nightkilling or just plain ignoring them. Asking my partner to loverize them and then bussing my partner is a pretty absurd theory. It makes more sense to just nightkill you in that scenario. At any rate, I had enough clout in the game that desperation plays like that don't make sense regardless. You aren't exeing me on D2.
If this is Alison speaking, you legit didn't do any of those things in GoC when you were 3P. In fact, in that game, you resorted to tactics that you open admitted to never using before -- thus, I don't trust any argument you make where you say you would or wouldn't do something as scum.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 2) If I came into the day planning to bus H&V I wouldn't out a readslist having them as a townread early on in D2.
Poop had them as a townread, too, early on in D2, before sudden pairing me and H&V up as a possible V/W pair. I'll ask you the same thing that I asked Poop -- why did you suddenly have a townread on them coming into D2? What did you find that was towny? The reason I ask this is that they were practically ignored D1. Nobody really talked about them or talked to them.

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Fri May 07, 2021 11:09 pm 3) I think a lot of the characteristics you're identifying as opportunistic are like, just the way nutella and I play. We see scummy shit, we jump on it. If someone claims a night action that is absolutely anti-town, I'm going to vote that person until I get a good explanation for why they did it. I don't know if it's a playstyle clash or what that's causing you to view that as scummy, but I personally believe town should not hold back from making forceful pushes when new info crops up, or when someone makes a really wolfy post.

In general I think you're (as Mac loves to say) jumping the shark. The stuff you're saying is scummy for us is literally just the way we play.
So, you'd jump on it, even if it results in OUR death, too? This is why I'm skeptical of you doing it specifically in H&V's case. Chopping or killing H&V is just a roundabout way to kill me without having to call me scummy.

- Hyena
None of what you're saying here seems meaningful except broadly as a description of how Alison and nutella play/approach the game

This doesn't address any of the counterpoints I made.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:12 pm**

Hyena I don't want to kill you lmao

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:12 pm**

I don't normally address specific points i find meaningless lol

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm**

Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:14 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:12 pm I don't normally address specific points i find meaningless lol

I'm saying they are lying about what they're doing in that post. What does that have anything to do with playstyle?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:15 pm**

Ime Alison is pretty willing to go directly after town players she wants dead

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:15 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:14 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:12 pm I don't normally address specific points i find meaningless lol
I'm saying they are lying about what they're doing in that post. What does that have anything to do with playstyle?

I tend to think misremembering pushes and timing is more townie than not

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:18 pm**

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on

You're not loverized with anyone though. It feels like I'm likely dying soon and because it might happen indirectly, it feels like no ones going to be held accountable aside from maybe H&V, who loverized me to begin with? If they are scum, do you really think they just do that on their own?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:19 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:15 pm Ime Alison is pretty willing to go directly after town players she wants dead

No, I'm talking about her saying she'd just do the things that she mentioned in her post when there's clear, recent evidence that she DIDN'T do those things.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm**

Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm**

I’m at the beach and won’t be here at eod.

Pls don’t kill us

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:21 pm**

Telling me to move on just makes me want to talk about it more since it feels like I'm not going to be able to soon.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:21 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:19 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:15 pm Ime Alison is pretty willing to go directly after town players she wants dead
No, I'm talking about her saying she'd just do the things that she mentioned in her post when there's clear, recent evidence that she DIDN'T do those things.

She also wasn't mafia in that game

This is like saying that because someone bussed their partner d1 in one game, they must do it every game.

Sure, you shouldn't lock clear then for voting mafia d1 in future games, but you don't just ignore reason and say they must be mafia either.

Alison being capable of doing what you're saying doesn't make it likely or probable

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:22 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena

There isn't really anything to do about it today

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:23 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:18 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on
You're not loverized with anyone though. It feels like I'm likely dying soon and because it might happen indirectly, it feels like no ones going to be held accountable aside from maybe H&V, who loverized me to begin with? If they are scum, do you really think they just do that on their own?

i dont get what youre asking sorry

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:23 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:22 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena
There isn't really anything to do about it today

When will there be anything to do about it?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:23 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:23 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:22 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena
There isn't really anything to do about it today
When will there be anything to do about it?

Not today

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:20 pm Why are y'all so unconcerned about me being loverized with H&V? It feels like once people were talked down from want to chop them, nobody really wanted to talk about me or them.

- Hyena

i mean once you outed it there isnt much we can do? if you're both town you probably just get nked, if h&v are scum we'll figure it out soon enough

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm**

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:02 pm when i was reading the thread last night in a semi catatonic state I could have sworn that alison or nutella found bottom text lolcatting level outing themselves?

i mean i was accused of lolcatting

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm**

@Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:27 pm**

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:28 pm 2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)

11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)

3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)

--------------------
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
--------------------

4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)

sure we can go with this

Yo, you don't believe both me AND H&V are scum right? Like, if you think one of us is scum, the other person should be cleared right now from your perspective. Why do you have me so low?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:27 pm**

yeah we were probably never going to be voting mana today anyways.

[VOTE: falconknows] aubergine

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:28 pm**

You're very unlikely to die tonight hyena, i would relax a little

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm**

wagon's at l-2.

hyena, i personally think akemi's slot is still a villager and think they're a terrible vote for today.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm**

HAMMER TIME BABAY FUCK YEAH

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:27 pm
Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 4:28 pm 2. Bottom Text (Esooa & katze)

11. Toopy and Binoo (Gavial & Spak)
7. Poop Explosions (c4e5g3d5 & MacDougall)
1. Akemi Hazelnut (Alison & nutella)

3. FalconKnows (falcon45ca & BoKnows)
9. Timsup2gettinserious (Syn & Hyena)

--------------------
5. Julinook (juliets & NANOOK)
12. trans rights (vanity & Mistyx)
--------------------

4. Honey & Vinegar (Urist & Mantisdreamz)
6. Mana (Made & Dana)
10. TonyStarkPlaysItCool (TonyStarkPrime & Justplayingitcool)

sure we can go with this
Yo, you don't believe both me AND H&V are scum right? Like, if you think one of us is scum, the other person should be cleared right now from your perspective. Why do you have me so low?

the tiers are unordered

realistically i could swap you and AH with no real issue

didnt think about the loverizing thingy when i made the list it was just a gth "what felt right at the time" thing

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm**

i will hammer anyone who reaches L-1

joycat

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm**

Plz be mafia i want to be clear enough to get nked

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:18 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on
You're not loverized with anyone though. It feels like I'm likely dying soon and because it might happen indirectly, it feels like no ones going to be held accountable aside from maybe H&V, who loverized me to begin with? If they are scum, do you really think they just do that on their own?

Ok but would you rather die before or at MYLO/LYLO?

Because the only other option will most likely result in a town defeat.

-Toopy

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm There is no chance I'm awake for another two hours, who wants to hammer so daddy can get his flip fix

Wait, we didn't get a flip yesterday. Why do you think we'll get one today?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm i will hammer anyone who reaches L-1

joycat

Best you to it

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.

I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm There is no chance I'm awake for another two hours, who wants to hammer so daddy can get his flip fix
Wait, we didn't get a flip yesterday. Why do you think we'll get one today?

If we don't I'm going to fucking riot

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm**

Bottom Text wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:29 pm i will hammer anyone who reaches L-1

joycat

even one of your strongest townreads, huh.

anyways, cap's lifted but i don't think anyone was really close to capping anyways.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm**

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.
I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

I think it’s risky not to Tbh.

-Toopy

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm**

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:18 pm
Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:13 pm Like alison impulsively voting for h&v because they were scummy doesn't mean we want you to die and idk why you're so stuck on that when we have moved on
You're not loverized with anyone though. It feels like I'm likely dying soon and because it might happen indirectly, it feels like no ones going to be held accountable aside from maybe H&V, who loverized me to begin with? If they are scum, do you really think they just do that on their own?
Ok but would you rather die before or at MYLO/LYLO?

Because the only other option will most likely result in a town defeat.

-Toopy

Before LYLO, but it feels like people want me to shut up right now and I'm concerned about it because I feel like I'm dying soon and won't be able to talk anymore.

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm**

I told my cousin about my voters and she sent me this

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm**

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:24 pm @Poop Explosions
Do you have anything to say about this? You're one of the people that I feel is ignoring everything I've been saying about the lovers and about Akemi.
I don't get any part of it lmao

Wrt the lovers situation I'm never going for either of you anytime soon.

What do you mean you don't get any part of it? What part don't you understand?

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:31 pm**

Make sure to get the audio!!

Posted: **Sat May 08, 2021 6:32 pm**

Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Timsup2gettinserious wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 6:30 pm
Julinook wrote: ↑Sat May 08, 2021 5:37 pm There is no chance I'm awake for another two hours, who wants to hammer so daddy can get his flip fix
Wait, we didn't get a flip yesterday. Why do you think we'll get one today?
If we don't I'm going to fucking riot

Are you scum?

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