The Syndicate

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:08 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:07 pm where did Mac say that? I see where he 'voted' all those players but I don't see where or how malaketh factors in

it's quoted above.

I visited Malacath so that implies we all visited Malacath

where does "visit" come in

me claiming to have an artifact was just bait to try and draw a wasted razor shot and live another day lol

Okay so, To go kinda big picture, what kinda of things need to happen for a town win? Obviously a hit makes things a lot easier, but like beside a hit, is there any sort of systematic way we can play this to make headway? Do we have a towncore? Do we want one? Maybe some sort of compiled scum read from towncore might help us see something

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:07 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:25 pm So what does this mean for Tim and KZA who both claimed Volendrung? I have no idea but it seems fishy. Especially that there are only 2 orcs and I'm one, and I'm only able to visit Malacath

you're fucking with me right

No

Hello @Made. I hope you're well.

If you all want to hold me to account for whatever mistakes Flanders made, then I won't stop you. If you were hoping I'd beg you to let me play this game, you're going to be disappointed. Joining a game so late is arduous enough without the noose already being tied halfway around my neck.

where, when did mac say thst? post links or it didn't happen

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm me claiming to have an artifact was just bait to try and draw a wasted razor shot and live another day lol

If I’m getting this razor shot business, if only 1 kill then RAs or failed right (save blocks and other bs)

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

well the wolves may have killed Syn but I legit got a cop check with my random 1 shot ability shrine

Made has been green checked lol

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:06 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:05 pm

Moghedien wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:04 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:01 pm

Moghedien wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:59 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:58 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 pm

This is not true.

Then Mac lied about that.

I don't know the half of what you're talking about, but this seems as good a place for me to start as any.

[VOTE: MacDougall] aubergine

Let's see what Mac has to say.

You should know some context: you (Flanders) almost got lynched last night. I think Mac led the charge and 4 of us followed, then I switched back last second.

So I would say you are probably on the hotseat today, and it would be a good idea to look inward in the thread

I'm not accountable for what Flanders said.

You kinda are, like literally

Also hi Mog <333 hope you’re well

Good place to start is reading marmot. We were scum with him in double elimination, and people have been saying he’s seemed similar there and here. Do you agree?

I can do that. I'll let you all know what I think about Marmot when I'm finished.

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm Okay so, To go kinda big picture, what kinda of things need to happen for a town win? Obviously a hit makes things a lot easier, but like beside a hit, is there any sort of systematic way we can play this to make headway? Do we have a towncore? Do we want one? Maybe some sort of compiled scum read from towncore might help us see something

Nice of you to want to join or acknowledge the town core now that we’re down 5

Moghedien wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm Hello @Made. I hope you're well.

If you all want to hold me to account for whatever mistakes Flanders made, then I won't stop you. If you were hoping I'd beg you to let me play this game, you're going to be disappointed. Joining a game so late is arduous enough without the noose already being tied halfway around my neck.

If it makes you feel any better, I’ve not exactly the most caught up. Just jumó in, it’s more fun that way !!! I kinda town read Flanders for a bit, so it might not be a mistake to see if he was on to something

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

this does not say he visited macdrinth or however u spell it.

post a link where Mac says he visited muccryth or however u spell it.

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:12 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm Okay so, To go kinda big picture, what kinda of things need to happen for a town win? Obviously a hit makes things a lot easier, but like beside a hit, is there any sort of systematic way we can play this to make headway? Do we have a towncore? Do we want one? Maybe some sort of compiled scum read from towncore might help us see something

Nice of you to want to join or acknowledge the town core now that we’re down 5

Fuck no, I’m not join towncore im sketch as shit lmaooo. I’m just trynna make moves my guy

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:01 pm I can see why KZA may have fake claimed in order to draw an attack with Mehrunes Razor, but how would he know that he wouldn't just be NKd?

Why would they NK someone before checking to make sure they get the Epic Item first?

They can just chop him tomorrow I guess

They don't get the artifact if they NK him?

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm well the wolves may have killed Syn but I legit got a cop check with my random 1 shot ability shrine

Made has been green checked lol

God damn it

Moghedien wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm Hello @Made. I hope you're well.

If you all want to hold me to account for whatever mistakes Flanders made, then I won't stop you. If you were hoping I'd beg you to let me play this game, you're going to be disappointed. Joining a game so late is arduous enough without the noose already being tied halfway around my neck.

Again, I’d just recommend trying to form reads and catch up as you can. I do agree marmot is a place to start, but also fresh eyes in general might help us out of this funk.

We’re 0-5

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 pm I just re-read my role card to be 100% certain. I can safely bet the house that I have this thing unless there's bastard elements at play or any other mechanics that I do not know about.

Why does KZA fake claim this, and why does Tim fake a CC?

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

so you're interpreting the picture "epic reads" to mean "tim is reading correctly"

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 pm I just re-read my role card to be 100% certain. I can safely bet the house that I have this thing unless there's bastard elements at play or any other mechanics that I do not know about.

Why does KZA fake claim this, and why does Tim fake a CC?

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

I don’t buy this at all

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:13 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

this does not say he visited macdrinth or however u spell it.

post a link where Mac says he visited muccryth or however u spell it.

There is no link to that. I'm saying that because I am in that list and I visited Malacath

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

so you're interpreting the picture "epic reads" to mean "tim is reading correctly"

Yes

I mean me being green checked is really good. I was a big question mark to the detriment of town. I was prob on the short list of players scum would of wanted to position themselves to push....so nicer

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:15 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 pm I just re-read my role card to be 100% certain. I can safely bet the house that I have this thing unless there's bastard elements at play or any other mechanics that I do not know about.

Why does KZA fake claim this, and why does Tim fake a CC?

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

I don’t buy this at all

That’s handy, cause I ain’t sellin it. It’s a fact.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 pm I just re-read my role card to be 100% certain. I can safely bet the house that I have this thing unless there's bastard elements at play or any other mechanics that I do not know about.

Why does KZA fake claim this, and why does Tim fake a CC?

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

okay so that is how u r wanting to be. that explains so much

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:35 pm I just re-read my role card to be 100% certain. I can safely bet the house that I have this thing unless there's bastard elements at play or any other mechanics that I do not know about.

Why does KZA fake claim this, and why does Tim fake a CC?

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

okay so that is how u r wanting to be. that explains so much

Like the (half obviously nonsense) claims of my second highest townread and my top scumread didn’t exactly keep me up at night.

@Moghedien hi. welcome. please be caught up soon and help us find scum. hope you had a good weekend ♡

Maybe wolves or players who didn’t have a read on Kza or Tim would care more. Idk. I’m not either of those things.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:19 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:17 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:47 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:44 pm

Huh?

what needs clarified

Nothing. I just forgot about the claims cause they didn’t really matter to me.

why? cause your 3rd party scum, oh wait it matters then too or? it would matter 7f u r town. it would matter if u r mafia. r u even playing this game?

Why would it matter if I’m town? I already townread KZA in a game with too many blank slots.

He’s telling the truth = reads don’t change and he dies
He’s lying = reads don’t change either

And then Tim was blatantly lying, either to cast doubt or pretend to be so that didn’t change anything either.

So I forgot about it.

okay so that is how u r wanting to be. that explains so much

Like the (half obviously nonsense) claims of my second highest townread and my top scumread didn’t exactly keep me up at night.

sure

KZA wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:09 pm me claiming to have an artifact was just bait to try and draw a wasted razor shot and live another day lol

And everything makes sense again.

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:14 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:04 pm

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:01 pm I can see why KZA may have fake claimed in order to draw an attack with Mehrunes Razor, but how would he know that he wouldn't just be NKd?

Why would they NK someone before checking to make sure they get the Epic Item first?

They can just chop him tomorrow I guess

They don't get the artifact if they NK him?

Unless it’s with the razor, that’s how I’m reading it.

Also now that we haven’t had any kills seemingly with the razor, it could be assumed 2 shots are spent with it. The next shot, if misshot, would pass into the hands of the next target.
I wonder if the mafia accounts for this and takes the chance targeting another mafia member? Wonder if it’s a boon or bane when it passes on?

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:20 pm Maybe wolves or players who didn’t have a read on Kza or Tim would care more. Idk. I’m not either of those things.

that's nice

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:03 pm So either one of Mac or Made is lying. GTH I'm saying Mac

Did Mac say he saw everyone at the same shrine or is that just the assumption from his “I found the baddies” post? Because those are very different and neither is as condemning as it’s being played.

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:59 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:58 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 8:57 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 7:20 pm MacDougall said he saw TSP, Made, Marmot, Gavial, and I go to the same shrine which would be the shrine of Malacath

This is not true.

Then Mac lied about that.

@MacDougall

I never said that.

Gonna throw this out as a not serious suggestion to piss people off.

“Let’s yeet Nacho because if he’s town, we’ve probably lost anyway and it’ll put us out of our misery and if he’s a wolf, ta da we got a wolf.”

Simple yes or no yall: do you know what going to ur shines does generally??

that angle is so ridiculous to push it makes me want to turbo you both tho so thx for that

Now watch as a I CC obvious bait and out my artifact.

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:22 pm Simple yes or no yall: do you know what going to ur shines does generally??

yes

I am about to get really really busy and will not be able to solve in my usual follow the thread and analyze every post in detail. I will once again be reduced to popping in, looking at pings, maybe looking at the most recent post or two, and trying to make something of it. Three things before I go.

Mogh, you are not responsible for the gigantic hole in the boat that is your slot, but you are in the boat that Flanders took an axe to and it is gonna be hard work to keep that afloat.

We are not killing Bo, get that straight right from the gate and save us a lot of trouble. Otherwise my reads list I am still standing with.

Third and final, since I can't thread sit and may not even be able to full read before EoD I have to have something to go off of, so everyone (yes even you slankers) please ping me with your opinions on this question:

If you had access to a scroll of magic detection, which would allow you to target one person and know if they held an artifact (but not which artifact) how great do you think that would be and why? Consider in your answer other potential cool things that you could maybe get later instead, not necessarily as cool as vig shots or cop checks...but maybe, or maybe not that cool like a one time self protect or a one time doc, or...I dunno...stuff. Is knowing someone does or does not have an artifact important here?

Please ping me with your answers and if someone tough could sort of point out the question to the stragglers and suggest they don't blow me off that would be great.

Okay thanks.

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:20 pm Maybe wolves or players who didn’t have a read on Kza or Tim would care more. Idk. I’m not either of those things.

that's nice

Why you being like that?

Made wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:22 pm Simple yes or no yall: do you know what going to ur shines does generally??

Or is supposed to do

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:21 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:03 pm So either one of Mac or Made is lying. GTH I'm saying Mac

Did Mac say he saw everyone at the same shrine or is that just the assumption from his “I found the baddies” post? Because those are very different and neither is as condemning as it’s being played.

What is the source of this dumb fuckery?

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:10 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:24 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:22 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:14 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:13 pm

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 11:12 pm [VOTE: marmot] aubergine

[VOTE: tsp] aubergine

[VOTE: gavial] aubergine

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[VOTE: made] aubergine

scum reads

Did all these people visit the same shrine?

@Kylemii

I was saying that they were epic reads. You can tell by the gigantic words that say epic reads.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:22 pm Gonna throw this out as a not serious suggestion to piss people off.

“Let’s yeet Nacho because if he’s town, we’ve probably lost anyway and it’ll put us out of our misery and if he’s a wolf, ta da we got a wolf.”

how about we not just yolo out a player. cfds and such is always bad. but u do u.

I plan on trying to actually solve the game and not randomly yeet a player.

but like if it turns out nacho is lynched and is a wolf you get 0 credit. 0

u probably don't care. that's fine

BK you even said they were scum reads and I crossed out your name because I was pumped that you translated effortlessly. Dig up.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:23 pm

Enrique wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:21 pm

BoKnows wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:03 pm So either one of Mac or Made is lying. GTH I'm saying Mac

Did Mac say he saw everyone at the same shrine or is that just the assumption from his “I found the baddies” post? Because those are very different and neither is as condemning as it’s being played.

What is the source of this dumb fuckery?

i dont know man i just got here

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:23 pm

DaisyCloud wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:21 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:20 pm Maybe wolves or players who didn’t have a read on Kza or Tim would care more. Idk. I’m not either of those things.

that's nice

Why you being like that?

I'm sorry. I'm not being like anything. I have no idea what u r doing.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Mon May 17, 2021 9:23 pm If you had access to a scroll of magic detection, which would allow you to target one person and know if they held an artifact (but not which artifact) how great do you think that would be and why? Consider in your answer other potential cool things that you could maybe get later instead, not necessarily as cool as vig shots or cop checks...but maybe, or maybe not that cool like a one time self protect or a one time doc, or...I dunno...stuff. Is knowing someone does or does not have an artifact important here?

Please ping me with your answers and if someone tough could sort of point out the question to the stragglers and suggest they don't blow me off that would be great.

Okay thanks.

It’s decent given the gamestate.

We’ve lost what? 2 townies with artifacts? We know the wolves have at least one.

If a sus player has an artifact, there’s a fair chance it’s the razor thing.

But you have to guess right and then take a leap of faith. There may be other better abilities.