The Syndicate

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:46 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:40 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:30 am

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:28 am [VOTE: Owner] aubergine

rly tho

If you're a flower vendor, why not say who you visited? Or at least say "no it wasn't Jay"?

She dodged Sean's question, even if it is a fake trap, it's a poor reaction.

Yeah I probs just gonna stop arguing with the drunk guy about the openwolf lol

Why did you in the first place though?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:06 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:03 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:59 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 4:55 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:31 pm Okay, end of Page 9. Guillo pointed out possible wolves in Nutella/Alison. Guillo also went from simply bear posting to regular posting in a way I kind of like (he wanted to do a gimmick, but then it feels like he just got excited as town and dropped the gimmick). Clearly Nutella was a hit, and I agree about Alison thus far. Mac also kind of pushed in that direction, and Nutella seems to be trying to butter Mac up afterwards (defended Mac at some point, and talked about how good Mac was in spiderverse, blah blah blah), so I am giving Mac a few town points here. Guillo probably also good, but seems to be getting less reactions from Nutella and others. I'd like to see Alison's flip to help sort these two.

What would Alison's flip mean for Guillo and Mac?

At this point? Jack (I didn't intend this, but realized afterwards that I think the bear is called jack? very funny;)) shit in my mind. I have a singular focus. I feel like I am the owner of a whole new idea.

I suspect this may be the point where I stop making sense of your posts. It's hella fun tho.

Was it a serious question, Sonny? Because to me it read like a question to divert my attention. If it it was a serious question, I will give it a bit more seriousness.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

Distract you from what?

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:16 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:14 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

Distract you from what?

Owner.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

what else do you not like about owner other than her fruit claim? and vote on made (I think?)

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:34 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

what else do you not like about owner other than her fruit claim? and vote on made (I think?)

I promise you her fruit claim is enough.

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

im a little confused, is sonny fighting your read on owner? what are these reactions that you mention that make sonny look bad if owner is a wolf?

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:38 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

im a little confused, is sonny fighting your read on owner? what are these reactions that you mention that make sonny look bad if owner is a wolf?

He wasn't fighting me, but he tried to distract the thread. Owner is outed, and scum is super more aware of that than town (and distracted town might not be aware), and so as I talked more about Owner, if you look at Sonny's post towards me, he wanted to talk about anyone but owner.

I know right now it seems insignificant, and I don't need you to believe me today, but just remember that it happened when we flip owner and I flip in the night.

Kito wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:52 pm If the poll displays votes in order then guillo more or less hammered nutella, or could've swapped last moment, or did a completely unnecessary bus. So he can be town and my belzy/guillo angle was stupid after all lol.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:38 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:10 am OoO! Fun! Sonny, you also tried to distract me with Kito. I like this!

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

im a little confused, is sonny fighting your read on owner? what are these reactions that you mention that make sonny look bad if owner is a wolf?

He wasn't fighting me, but he tried to distract the thread. Owner is outed, and scum is super more aware of that than town (and distracted town might not be aware), and so as I talked more about Owner, if you look at Sonny's post towards me, he wanted to talk about anyone but owner.

I know right now it seems insignificant, and I don't need you to believe me today, but just remember that it happened when we flip owner and I flip in the night.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:38 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:13 am

what is it that he's trying to distract you from?

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

im a little confused, is sonny fighting your read on owner? what are these reactions that you mention that make sonny look bad if owner is a wolf?

He wasn't fighting me, but he tried to distract the thread. Owner is outed, and scum is super more aware of that than town (and distracted town might not be aware), and so as I talked more about Owner, if you look at Sonny's post towards me, he wanted to talk about anyone but owner.

I know right now it seems insignificant, and I don't need you to believe me today, but just remember that it happened when we flip owner and I flip in the night.

If Owner flips scum I promise to look at myself.

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:48 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:46 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:38 am

Dana wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:33 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:29 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:25 am

Seanzie wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:19 am

Minimally owner. I could have possibly been onto more, but the only two people I will express any sort of confident read out of are Owner (very strong read), and Sonny (much much weaker but still worth something read).

Oh? What is your read on me?

I mean if you have already shared, I'll get there, but we're both here right now.

Up until recently? Town, but recently? well, all I'll say is that everyone should bookmark Sonny's reactions to me tonight for when Owner flips scum. No one will do it, and I will die tonight, but y'all SHOULD do it.

im a little confused, is sonny fighting your read on owner? what are these reactions that you mention that make sonny look bad if owner is a wolf?

He wasn't fighting me, but he tried to distract the thread. Owner is outed, and scum is super more aware of that than town (and distracted town might not be aware), and so as I talked more about Owner, if you look at Sonny's post towards me, he wanted to talk about anyone but owner.

I know right now it seems insignificant, and I don't need you to believe me today, but just remember that it happened when we flip owner and I flip in the night.

If Owner flips scum I promise to look at myself.

If you get tired of that, you can look at JJJ if you really want.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.

I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.

Guillotine wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:12 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:21 pm Assessing the Made wagon requires answering one core question first: what is Made's alignment? At face value I think his nutella vote is bussing-compatible. The only reason to doubt that is that his wagon swelled all the way to 7 votes. That might be the more important factor.

It actually reached 8 votes and a tie for like a millisecond, unless my eyes deceived me or there was a poll glitch. I didn't have the presence of mind to screen cap it before it returned to 8-7. This was within seconds of the poll closing. Someone needs to own up to that.

I confirm there was a tie of 8 votes between them for a bit.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.

I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.

Err, is this TMI?

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:13 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.

I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.

Err, is this TMI?

I'll take dumbest posts I've ever read for 100 alex.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 3:51 am By the way if there's a poison healer out there they should heal Alison.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:19 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:13 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.

I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.

Err, is this TMI?

I'll take dumbest posts I've ever read for 100 alex.

It implied you knew Made's alignment.

And yes, I've seen you addressed this now.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:25 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:19 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:13 am

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 5:54 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:07 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 5:06 pm bad bunny has extremely high wolf equity in light of nutella's flip.

I am very confidant bunny is a villager if she's a wolf she votes made 100% I'm sure of it.

Err, is this TMI?

I'll take dumbest posts I've ever read for 100 alex.

It implied you knew Made's alignment.

And yes, I've seen you addressed this now.

I've seen people say this twice now and not for nothing even if wagons were w/w I still think bunny's vote makes them village because I would assume wolves would have a preference of who goes down between made/nutella.

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am

@Allcrab

Spoiler: show

Also, why are you in some peoples' POE? I'm asking for a friend.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:36 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am

@Allcrab

Spoiler: show

Also, why are you in some peoples' POE? I'm asking for a friend.

When am I not?

Tbf the only one really saying it multiple times I think is Mac and that's just Mac doing Mac things so I don't know that I care that much. Better question why did you not self-pres onto nutella and try to do it onto made instead?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:39 am

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:36 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am

@Allcrab

Spoiler: show

Also, why are you in some peoples' POE? I'm asking for a friend.

When am I not?

Tbf the only one really saying it multiple times I think is Mac and that's just Mac doing Mac things so I don't know that I care that much. Better question why did you not self-pres onto nutella and try to do it onto made instead?

excuse me but what the fuck

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:01 pm Interactions of nutella and Belzy

Belzy's interest in figuring out nutella seems to track generally with the motion of the game (and for someone that doesn't know nutella that's not necessarily a problem). All of these posts come within a window of 11 to 7 hours prior to the Day 1 deadline. This is essentially when the nutella wagon had swelled to size, I believe initially peaking at a 7-2 or 8-2 lead. So it makes some contextual sense for Belzy to look into her.

I would say that Belzy's digging is a bit flat. The questions she hurls nutella's way (orange) are relatively token surface-level digs. On that front I don't struggle to believe that this could be distancing. That Belzy arrived at a final suspicion of nutella, but within these broad "randomly ordered" sets of names, doesn't amount to a push of much severity.

Also note that Belzy's final vote of Day 1 rested alone on Guillotine.

~~~

Conclusion

While there isn't a ton to discuss here, I do think these two can be teammates. This isn't an interaction that sets off screaming sirens, but nor is it one that inspires any confidence in me. That off-wagon Guilltone vote stands out to me too. Belzy is a suspect.

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 8:08 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Sat May 22, 2021 4:05 am Strong town
Jay
Sonny
Guillo
Tangy

Town leans
Gnome
Alison
Martin I guess sheeping alison
Dana
Mac
Sloonei
Hawk? Liked their style
Act maybe at this point

Gav Nook LC are more tbd
Dont remember anyone else

Going to sleep for like 12 hours gl

There is 1 wolf between Jay, Sonny and Tangy. Nutella had more deep and meaningful interactions with Tangy than Jay and Sonny up to this point. She made no effort to defend Jay from me when I tried to push him nor did any kind of "Jay is just town" deflated shit so that means she probably was enjoying him getting pushed and just townreads him here to pocket him. So the mafia between them is probably Sonny.

In the leans I would say that Martin, Hawk and Act are probably not mafia because she would be too conscious of over-elaboration as a tell. There is probably 1 mafia in this list though and it is probably Garden Gnome.

There is probably one between Gavial and Long Con also.

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:32 pm

Tangrowth wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:29 pm

Allcrab wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:26 pm I generally find it weird when the possibility of ultra low volume wolf busses active wolf comes up but nutella seemed like they got railroaded so early maybe that thought is valid.

It's a good question, you'd think if Made and/or Owner were also scum, they'd prefer one of them to go than nutella from a thread presence perspective.

I think so yeah but I'm not taking roles into account which I actually should be in a game like this, it has big mash energy.

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:33 pm Seanzie is probably derpcleared for pushing me after I was poisoned. And not realizing that I buried nutella in general.

Sonny wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 7:17 am Oh hey, Bunny.

Can you give your read on Owner?

Alison wrote: ↑Mon May 24, 2021 4:34 pm Also I have a red check on Tangrowth.

[VOTE: Tangrowth] aubergine

Allcrab wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 6:36 am

Owner of a Lonely Heart wrote: ↑Tue May 25, 2021 2:42 am

@Allcrab

Spoiler: show

Also, why are you in some peoples' POE? I'm asking for a friend.

When am I not?

Tbf the only one really saying it multiple times I think is Mac and that's just Mac doing Mac things so I don't know that I care that much. Better question why did you not self-pres onto nutella and try to do it onto made instead?