Re: RPG Mafia D2
Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:20 pmI've explained my Tony read but it can be summed up with "I've played with Tony a lot and I'm 100% certain that he's in his town meta."LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:18 pmAnd why do you think that?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:15 pmAnd Syn.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:13 pmLike everyone.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
Scotty has been switching between me and Duyna all day.
Same with TSP and NAA.
Wilgy and Petit have both been voting vanity and switching to me/duyna occasionally.
At least 3 of these have to be Mafia there is just no real way that Town are trying to keep votes tied.
But here's the thing. Tony, NAA and Syn are all town.
But okay, that's like a fair perspective to have fypov, which was the point of me asking.
Axe just looks like he's been in every town game I've ever played with him, an excited guy who is really confident in his reads, which are mostly pretty good.
Syn has no teammates but also, his massive string of mostly solo posts earlier in the phase when everybody else was sleeping almost always comes from a townie imo.
I just found it odd since TSP looks like he did in GoC to me.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:20 pmI've explained my Tony read but it can be summed up with "I've played with Tony a lot and I'm 100% certain that he's in his town meta."LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:18 pmAnd why do you think that?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:15 pmAnd Syn.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:13 pmLike everyone.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
Scotty has been switching between me and Duyna all day.
Same with TSP and NAA.
Wilgy and Petit have both been voting vanity and switching to me/duyna occasionally.
At least 3 of these have to be Mafia there is just no real way that Town are trying to keep votes tied.
But here's the thing. Tony, NAA and Syn are all town.
But okay, that's like a fair perspective to have fypov, which was the point of me asking.
Axe just looks like he's been in every town game I've ever played with him, an excited guy who is really confident in his reads, which are mostly pretty good.
Syn has no teammates but also, his massive string of mostly solo posts earlier in the phase when everybody else was sleeping almost always comes from a townie imo.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.
This is just saying you're OK with mislynching Duyna.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.
ok that's legit. dunya doesn't have to be alive for me to get results from last nightDolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:59 pmif dunya flips w it stands to reason that all claimed actions on her that you can match are town or we can force a 50/50 if scum wants to claim one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:56 pmhotter take: this is why I've been so reluctant to chop her today. I want to know what was done.
Like, there's no reason for scum to visit dunya if she's w unless they also want to use druid level 2 on her, in which case, lol that's whack
LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:04 pm In all honestly Scotty should have always been the day 1 lynch.
no shit. I told y'all creature was town
yes, and as claims/actions start to trickle in, and we all know they will, we can start matching things upJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:06 pmYeah but Druid 2 just tells us what she was targetted with, not who targetted her.Dolby wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:01 pmit doesn't, but if she flips w it means that everyone who targetted her looks very good. which i likeJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:59 pm Call me dense but I fail to see how Dunya being targetted with things N1 is alignment indicative in the least. She lead a wagon on a townie and had moderate suspicion leveled against her during the day. Townies will target her regardless of alignment and wolves probably wouldn't target her if she's town except maybe with a single thousand cuts in case she self clears.
So I don't see how knowing what she was targetted with does anything for her alignment. Or does anything after the fact if we flip her.
Do you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
He can’t keep his reads together it’s fineMarmot wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:14 pmTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:13 pm Concerning that I think Dunya doesn’t have any obvious partners on the LP wagon
I thought Scotty was one?
Look idk I didn’t make the assertion, LP didScotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
It’s because they have no leg to stand on.
That is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.
I somewhat agree
if it's w/w wagons the other wolves are busing one or both of them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
You aren't even trying to hide your intentions anymore.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.![]()
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine
LP I straight up said twice at least I would like to see wagons tied at EOD to see who the wolves choose b/c I think both of you can be wolves. Scotty did say if you're both town wolves pick you every time.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmThat is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
You continue to slip further into the firm obvious scum category.
It’s posts like these that make me keep wanting you gone before anyone else.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:31 pm Alright time for mass analysis.
Easy stuff out of the way.
Scotty and TSP are so obvious mafia it's not even funny. But I have a strange feeling they will not be lynched until day 4 minimum.
Marmot and HK are probably the only two people putting in an effort into this game that feel genuine and are pretty obvi Town.
Duyna is probably Town do to multiple odd wagonomics pointing towards Mafia!Duyna as an unlikely scenario.
Syn always shares an alignment with Duyna, so probably Town.
Difficult things.
Wilgy and NAA are impossible to read as they are doing a lot of their normal NAI stuff.
Sig still hasn't posted, so yeah...
Dya feels like they are in their scum meta atm. Pretty similar progressions to reads and approach to wagons as in GoC.
petit's votes and reads are really odd. I cannot tell their alignment easily as I haven't played with them. Could go either way with a scumlean.
Jack I've been trying to get a better read on today but I'm still equally as lost as i was early today when it came to reading him. I'm thinking Town, but their reasoning for reads isn't very good.
Urist feels Town since D1 and my confidence in this read has been steadily growing all of D2.
Dolby also feels a bit more like Town. They at least feel somewhat genuine, though I would be lying if I said I really was able to read their posts. They frankly go in one ear and out the other.
He is doing scummy shit and saying that it's somehow justified by you saying you wanted wagons tied.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:38 pmLP I straight up said twice at least I would like to see wagons tied at EOD to see who the wolves choose b/c I think both of you can be wolves. Scotty did say if you're both town wolves pick you every time.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmThat is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
You continue to slip further into the firm obvious scum category.
I dunno how you're reading factual truth from scotty as "overly defensive and blame shifting".
Nothing scotty said there is breaking from reality.
Were you tipped off by me writing “I agree”LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:37 pmYou aren't even trying to hide your intentions anymore.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.![]()
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine
I'm dying right now.
Side note this interaction between Scotty and TSP also just looks like two people agreeing but trying to argue against eachother somehow.
You tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part ofTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
Yeah actually.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pmWere you tipped off by me writing “I agree”LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:37 pmYou aren't even trying to hide your intentions anymore.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:21 pmA vote for Dunya today is a vote for Scotty tomorrow if Dunya flips wolf anyhow.![]()
[VOTE: dunya] aubergine
I'm dying right now.
Side note this interaction between Scotty and TSP also just looks like two people agreeing but trying to argue against eachother somehow.
what is the scummy shit he's doing then? I'm trying to put myself into your shoes and read the game from your perspective but I'm failing massively at doing that b/c I can't figure out how you get to where you are.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:39 pmHe is doing scummy shit and saying that it's somehow justified by you saying you wanted wagons tied.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:38 pmLP I straight up said twice at least I would like to see wagons tied at EOD to see who the wolves choose b/c I think both of you can be wolves. Scotty did say if you're both town wolves pick you every time.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmThat is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
You continue to slip further into the firm obvious scum category.
I dunno how you're reading factual truth from scotty as "overly defensive and blame shifting".
Nothing scotty said there is breaking from reality.
Damn right I’m overly defensive. I perfectly see the narrative that you are forming here your drum up. Where was this verve 24 hours ago when you had 6 votes?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmThat is overly defensive and shifting blame for someone who objectively has been switching wagons all day long.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:30 pmDo you even read this game.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:12 pmScotty, PossiblyJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pmWho is trying to tie the wagons?LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:11 pm Again I'm 99% confident with the fact that people are actively trying to balance the votes these are both Town wagons.
Nanook runs the rule that ties are decided by Mafia not randomed. So the fact there is an active effort to tie the wagons is very telling.
HK joked about leaving wagons tied, and I brought up that they would choose LP every time if they were both v/v for WIFOM sake.
You continue to slip further into the firm obvious scum category.
Not really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tablesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmI somewhat agree
Do you have a coherent view of the game
Yea = teaScotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:43 pmNot really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tablesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmI somewhat agree
Do you have a coherent view of the game
Yes but on team “Dunya” which is one of the wagons and not an off ramp except dunya but idkScotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pmYou tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part ofTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
The Resistance to putting LP over.
okScotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:43 pmNot really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tablesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmI somewhat agree
Do you have a coherent view of the game
You need to stop fucking pussyfooting and commit to a goddamn read or point of view or anything.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pmYou tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part ofTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
The Resistance to putting LP over.
But not committing to one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:36 pmif it's w/w wagons the other wolves are busing one or both of them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
And you should have. At least then you would have taken some sort of blame that you can't just push onto other people.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:43 pmNot really, no. I expressed my desire to hammer about 24 hours ago, and the longer we talk and have yea the more I want to turn over tablesTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pmI somewhat agree
Do you have a coherent view of the game
I take responsibly for my shifting reads. I ain’t Serena Williamsing this shit.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pmYou need to stop fucking pussyfooting and commit to a goddamn read or point of view or anything.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pmYou tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part ofTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
The Resistance to putting LP over.
You've done nothing all day but shift reads and deflect all criticism.
You cannot unironically ever think what you are doing is in any way helping the Town. You're just painting yourself as scum and pushing for multiple mislynches.
keep in mind that I do not mean excessive AtE
I don't think a single person has Town read me besides Duyna and maybe Urist (though he hasn't directly read me I think)Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:49 pmI take responsibly for my shifting reads. I ain’t Serena Williamsing this shit.LinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pmYou need to stop fucking pussyfooting and commit to a goddamn read or point of view or anything.Scotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:40 pmYou tell me. You and jack and even dunya have been part ofTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do
The Resistance to putting LP over.
You've done nothing all day but shift reads and deflect all criticism.
You cannot unironically ever think what you are doing is in any way helping the Town. You're just painting yourself as scum and pushing for multiple mislynches.
I’ve wanted you dead since midway through D1. That hasn’t changed, my read on you hasn’t changed.
Meanwhile, other people are also tunneling elsewhere and are choosing to save you or not.
I will acknowledge that you could be town. But that’s only on wagons being so stagnant. If you are mafia, it takes a cursory glance to search and see who has been actively either shielding you or ignoring your wagon entirely.
Blame the game, not the playerLinearPoint wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:56 pm You know. I really wish people made readable vote count posts.
there's no reason to commit if they're w/wScotty wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:44 pmBut not committing to one.hollowkatt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:36 pmif it's w/w wagons the other wolves are busing one or both of them.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Mar 17, 2022 1:35 pm I wonder if w/w wagons here just go for it or how much off ramp looking they do