WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY FIVE]

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Who shall die upon Mount Fuji?

Poll ended at Thu Oct 08, 2026 5:01 am

DrWilgy
2
11%
Duelist Mirage
1
6%
Gims
0
No votes
GoSpursGo
0
No votes
Jess
9
50%
leetic
0
No votes
MacDougall
1
6%
Nutella
0
No votes
Porscha
0
No votes
Pyxxy
0
No votes
RondoDimBuckle
0
No votes
Scotty
0
No votes
Tranq
0
No votes
Sonic the Hedgehog (deads/nons etc).
5
28%
 
Total votes: 18
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

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Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:16 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:15 pm
Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown
Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?
BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine
This is a good post
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.
Sukide wa arimasen
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:32 pm

Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around
Disagree, that kind of statement is +town
Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.
This is a weird aside
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.
Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.
Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest
@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?

And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.
This entire post still stands, then I figured he had info on Epi, hence the cryptic way he’s been nosediving there. But alas, that is not the case. Additionally, Epi hinting and Nutella attempting to veto that based on info (regardless of Nutella’s alignment) pulled me from thinking Epi was the right vote.
It's very possible I'm just dumb, but why are you weighing his treatment on Epi more strongly than his treatment of Nicole/Trek? I agree with your, his votes on Nicole and Trek given the vote counts at the time seemed pretty towny.
Leetic wasn’t really in my top of my POE, actually. I don’t even remember talking about him, did i? If I had an order he would have been maybe 5th or 6th. I voted there because I was moving with the flow and I don’t have a great reason to town read him, but don’t have a strong reason to scum read him either.
That is fair enough. I was mostly talking about the vote for leetic
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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I've read through dubz and there's nothing clearing abt the slot
gotta give me something strong
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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there's nothing to townread wilgy for
gotta give me something strong
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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DrWilgy
Dubz
Duelist Mirage
Gims
GoSpursGo
Jess

leetic
MacDougall
Nutella
Porscha
Pyxxy
RondoDimBuckle
Scotty
Tranq


I believe I'm here

nutella and porscha are townreads

leetic/dubz/wilgy is POE

I think everyone else is just town
gotta give me something strong
gotta make sure its your best
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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the things that were clearing for dubz/wilgy were basically pushing scum but everyone alive has pushed scum and the ones that didn't (mac, rondo) don't seem to be scum at all so we have to assume scum has bussed at different points in the game
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for
This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for
This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.
everyone but rondo and mac pushed for flipped scum

so we have to keep this in mind, there's been bussing, there's been 'decisive' votes

I'm not saying wilgy is scum, I'm saying that other than voting scum his posts aren't towny

same for dubz, I didn't find her towny while re-reading. some posts are good but easy for scum to write. some takes are quite confusing.

for wilgy, there's a tonal gap between this and his town games, I think. scum wilgy is more serious and he is being serious. the same goes for nutella re: tonal gap.

*gasp*

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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT ONE]

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Updated Day 1 spoiled VC progression
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 3:03 pm Day 1 VC, 9/24/26 at 1500 EDT

Duelist Mirage (2) - Spurs, Tranq
Trekkie99 (2) - gims, Scotty
Tranq (2) - Rondo, Nicole

6/20

Leading: Players with votes
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Duelist Mirage, Epignosis, Jess, leetic, Long Con, MacDougall, Michelle, nutella, Porscha, pyxxy, Trekkie, Vivax

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (~39 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 4:17 pm Day 1 VC, 9/24/26 at 1615 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Tranq
Trekkie99 (2) - gims, Scotty
Tranq (1) - Rondo
Vivax (2) - Spurs, Nicole

6/20

Leading: Trekkie and Vivax
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Duelist Mirage, Epignosis, Jess, leetic, Long Con, MacDougall, Michelle, nutella, Porscha, pyxxy, Trekkie, Vivax

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (~38 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 10:10 pm Day 1 VC, 9/24/26 at 2000 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Tranq
Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Tranq (1) - Rondo
Vivax (2) - Spurs, Nicole
dubz (1) - vivax
Nicole (1) - gims
nutella (1) - leetic

8/20

Leading: Vivax
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Duelist Mirage, Epignosis, Jess, Long Con, MacDougall, Michelle, nutella, Porscha, pyxxy, Trekkie

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (~32 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:25 am Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 0930 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Tranq
Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (3) - gims, nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (2) - Epig, Spurs
leetic (1) - DM
Spurs (1) - pyxxy
Epig (1) - MacDougall

13/20

Leading: @NicoleAndDime
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Jess, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (20.5 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:38 am Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1030 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Tranq
Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (3) - gims, nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (1) - DM, Spurs
Spurs (1) - pyxxy
Epig (1) - MacDougall

13/20

Leading: @NicoleAndDime
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Jess, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (19.5 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 12:30 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1230 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Tranq
Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (3) - gims, nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (1) - DM, Spurs
Spurs (2) - pyxxy, Jess
Epig (1) - MacDougall

14/20

Leading: Nicole
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (17.5 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 1:00 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1300 EDT

Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (2) - gims, nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (1) - DM, Spurs
Spurs (1) - pyxxy
Epig (2) - MacDougall, gims

12/20

Leading: Nicole, @Vivax and @Epignosis
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo, Tranq, Jess

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (17 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:28 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1430 EDT

Trekkie99 (1) - Scotty
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (2) - nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (2) - DM, Spurs
Spurs (1) - pyxxy
Epig (1) - MacDougall
Michelle (2) - gims, jess

13/20

Leading: Nicole, Vivax, @leetic , and @Michelle
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo, Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (15.5 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:03 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1500 EDT

Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (2) - nutella, vivax
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (3) - DM, Spurs, Scotty
Epig (1) - MacDougall
Michelle (3) - gims, jess, pyxxy

13/20

Leading: leetic and Michelle
Missing: DrWilgy, dubz, Michelle, Porscha, Trekkie, Rondo, Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (15 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:55 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1600 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Michelle
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (1) - nutella
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (3) - DM, Scotty, Spurs
Spurs (1) - Vivax
Epig (1) - MacDougall
Michelle (1) - gims
Rondo (1) - pyxxy

13/20

Leading: leetic
Missing: @DrWilgy , @Dubz , @Porscha , @Trekkie99 , @RondoDimBuckle , @Tranq , @jess

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (14 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 7:42 pm Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1930 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Michelle
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
Nicole (1) - nutella
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (3) - DM, Scotty, Spurs
Spurs (1) - Vivax
Epig (1) - MacDougall
Michelle (1) - gims
Rondo (1) - pyxxy, jess
Scotty (1) - leetic

14/20

Leading: leetic
Missing: @DrWilgy , @Dubz , @Porscha , @Trekkie99 , @RondoDimBuckle , @Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (10.5 hours)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 12:09 pm So here are the wagonomics movements yesterday towards EOD:

Here is the VC at the top of page 13 (2150 EDT, ~8h until EOD), just before nutella says she wants the Nicole wagon to come back. The Nicole wagon had just disassembled as nutella had come off of Nicole onto me and then epig, and there was some discussion about how large the leetic wagon was getting.
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Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 2150 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Michelle
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
dubz (1) - Trek
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (5) - DM, Scotty, Spurs, dubz, gims
Spurs (1) - Vivax
Epig (2) - MacDougall, nutella
Rondo (2) - pyxxy, jess
Scotty (1) - leetic

16/20

Leading: leetic
Missing: DrWilgy , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600EDT (~8h hours)
Here it is at 2300 EDT (~7h until EOD) at top of page 14, right as Nicole drops her vote on leetic and bounces. In retrospect, this is a pretty savage outcome for her as she almost certainly thought she was safe as she was going to bed with no votes and 5/4 wagons on leetic and Epig.
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Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 2300 EDT

Duelist Mirage (2) - Michelle, Long Con
dubz (1) - Trek
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (5) - DM, Scotty, dubz, gims, Nicole
Epig (4) - MacDougall, nutella, Spurs, jess
Rondo (1) - pyxxy
Scotty (1) - leetic

15/20

Leading: leetic
Missing: DrWilgy , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Tranq, Vivax

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600EDT (~7h hours)
Around 0130 EDT (top of page 15, 4.5h until EOD). The nutella block starts shifting from Epig to Nicole. Others have pointed this out, but Duelist is pushing back pretty hard against this shift. Interestingly, Scotty votes for pyxxy, then joins pyxxy on Rondo, and DM flaps around over in that direction after stopping briefly on Epig.
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Day 1 VC, 9/26/26 at 0130 EDT

Duelist Mirage (2) - Michelle, Long Con
dubz (1) - Trek
Nicole (3) - Spurs, nutella, Vivax
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
leetic (3) - dubz, gims, Nicole
Epig (2) - MacDougall, jess
Rondo (3) - pyxxy, Scotty, DM
Scotty (1) - leetic

16/20

Leading: leetic, Nicole and Rondo
Missing: DrWilgy , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600EDT (~4.5h hours)
And this is the VC at the top of page 16 (around 0300, 3h from EOD). It's a 4-way tie, but Wilgy's vote on Nicole and aggressive wolf-read leads to that wagon really taking off. Long Con and Epig were both coming for DM.
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Day 1 VC, 9/26/26 at 0300 EDT

Duelist Mirage (3) - Michelle, Long Con, Epig
dubz (1) - Trek
Nicole (3) - Spurs, nutella, Vivax
Porscha (1) - Mac
leetic (3) - dubz, gims, Nicole
Epig (1) - jess
Rondo (3) - pyxxy, Scotty, DM
Scotty (1) - leetic

16/20

Leading: leetic, Nicole, Rondo, DM
Missing: DrWilgy , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Tranq

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600EDT (~3h hours)
And this is the final VC. As Nicole's wagon is building, I notice jess and leetic kind of commenting about being sus of a wagon building up on d1. Leetic brings the DM wagon to 6/4, which could be a last gasp to try and bring a counterwagon forward? Tranq then votes Nicole, with the justification that they think DM is town. Looking back, it appears that Nicole actually voted vivax, so it's possible they never actually moved their vote earlier when they said they were moving to leetic.
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Final Day 1 VC

Duelist Mirage (4) - Michelle, Long Con, Epig, leetic
Vivax (1) - Nicole
dubz (2) - Trek, DM
Nicole (7) - Spurs, nutella, Vivax, Wilgy, Scotty, gims, Tranq
Porscha (1) - Mac
leetic (1) - dubz
Epig (1) - jess
Rondo (1) - pyxxy

18/20

Leading: Nicole
Missing: Porscha , RondoDimBuckle
Possibly worth looking at again, as I'd forgotten Epi was also a wagon on d1. Mac, nutella, jess, and I were all on that wagon at various points
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:40 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for
This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.
everyone but rondo and mac pushed for flipped scum

so we have to keep this in mind, there's been bussing, there's been 'decisive' votes

I'm not saying wilgy is scum, I'm saying that other than voting scum his posts aren't towny

same for dubz, I didn't find her towny while re-reading. some posts are good but easy for scum to write. some takes are quite confusing.

for wilgy, there's a tonal gap between this and his town games, I think. scum wilgy is more serious and he is being serious. the same goes for nutella re: tonal gap.

*gasp*

I should study.
Yeah, and I don't find those top two guys especially towny lol. Like, you believe you can read Rondo and Mac so well by "tone" that they get to be crossed in your list above despite being wrong on everything that actually matters in the game which is the votes, and nutella who nailed a wolf day 1 is uncrossed? It's just weird to me and not how I approach narrowing the POE and associative reads.

If you don't want to take my word for it on dubz I can't blame you, but nutella and Wilgy I really encourage anyone to review the VC at the time nutella and Wilgy cast their votes. They felt pivoltal at the time, and still do on re-read, IMO. While bussing is a thing I wouldn't just assume they are based on tone.
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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leetic wagon from yesterday pretty towny i guess
You're being an unacceptable level of stupid, with zero sexy, and no sense of humor.
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:52 pm eah, and I don't find those top two guys especially towny lol. Like, you believe you can read Rondo and Mac so well by "tone" that they get to be crossed in your list above despite being wrong on everything that actually matters in the game which is the votes, and nutella who nailed a wolf day 1 is uncrossed? It's just weird to me and not how I approach narrowing the POE and associative reads.

If you don't want to take my word for it on dubz I can't blame you, but nutella and Wilgy I really encourage anyone to review the VC at the time nutella and Wilgy cast their votes. They felt pivoltal at the time, and still do on re-read, IMO. While bussing is a thing I wouldn't just assume they are based on tone.
mac is doing the towny thing of going after players no one scumreads

rondo is doing the towny thing of being unapologetically antitown

I guess those are some takes of all time to make lol but its how im reading these 2

I think mac and rondo are potentially going after scum now at any rate
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Updated Day 2 spoiled VC progression
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2026 1:58 pm Day 2 VC on 9/27/26 at ~1400 EDT

pyxxy (2) - Tranq, nutella
Epig (1) - Spurs
Trek (1) - Scottie
Long Con (1) - dubz

5/19

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: About 75%

ETA: Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~39h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2026 9:17 pm Day 2 VC on 9/27/26 at ~2100 EDT

pyxxy (4) - Tranq, nutella, DM, gims
Epig (1) - Spurs
Trek (1) - Scottie
Long Con (1) - dubz
leetic (1) - Vivax

8/19

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: A little under half

ETA: Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~31.5h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2026 10:51 pm Day 2 VC on 9/27/26 at ~2300 EDT

pyxxy (4) - Tranq, nutella, DM, gims
Epig (1) - Spurs
Trek (2) - Scottie, Jess
Long Con (1) - dubz
leetic (1) - Vivax
gims (1) -leetic

10/19

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: A little under half

ETA: Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~30h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 7:47 am I missed that pyxxy voted Mac last night

Day 2 VC on 9/28/26 at ~0800 EDT

pyxxy (3) - Tranq, nutella, DM
Epig (1) - Spurs
Trek (2) - Scottie, Jess
Long Con (1) - dubz
leetic (1) - Vivax
Mac (2) - pyxxy, gims
gims (1) -leetic
DM (1) - Epig


12/19

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: @DrWilgy , @Long Con , @MacDougall , @Michelle , @Porscha , @RondoDimBuckle , @Trekkie99

ETA: Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~21h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 10:11 am Day 2 VC on 9/28/26 at ~1000 EDT

pyxxy (4) - Tranq, nutella, DM, Scotty
Trek (1) - Jess
Long Con (1) - dubz
leetic (1) - Vivax
Mac (4) - pyxxy, gims, Michelle, Spurs
gims (2) -leetic, Mac
DM (1) - Epig


14/19

Leading: pyxxy and Mac
Missing: DrWilgy , Long Con , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Trekkie99

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~19h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 3:02 pm Day 2 VC on 9/28/26 at ~1500 EDT

pyxxy (2) - DM, Scotty
Trek (1) - Jess
leetic (1) - Vivax
Mac (6) - pyxxy, gims, Michelle, Spurs, nutella, Tranq
gims (2) -leetic, Mac
DM (1) - Epig
jess (1) - dubz


14/19

Leading: Mac
Missing: DrWilgy , Long Con , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle , Trekkie99

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~14h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2026 11:06 pm Day 2 VC on 9/28/26 at ~2300 EDT

pyxxy (1) - Scotty
Epig (1) - DM
Trek (2) - Jess, gims
leetic (2) - Vivax, Trek
Mac (5) - pyxxy, Michelle, Spurs, nutella, Tranq
gims (2) -leetic, Mac
DM (1) - Epig
jess (1) - dubz


15/19

Leading: Mac
Missing: DrWilgy , Long Con , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~6h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 9:39 am EOD 2 vote progression. Here is my VC at 2300 EDT, 6h until EOD
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Day 2 VC on 9/28/26 at ~2300 EDT

pyxxy (1) - Scotty
Epig (1) - DM
Trek (2) - Jess, gims
leetic (2) - Vivax, Trek
Mac (5) - pyxxy, Michelle, Spurs, nutella, Tranq
gims (2) -leetic, Mac
DM (1) - Epig
jess (1) - dubz


15/19

Leading: Mac
Missing: DrWilgy , Long Con , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~6h)
nutellastarts the movement going to jess. Epig hops to jess momentarily before going to leetic. Then after not liking it, nutella moves back to Mac. DM consolidates from Epig to leetic. I feel like the game cannot be so easy that the last two mafia are just Mac and DM, but DM spent a LOT of yesterday trying to find any reason to talk about anyone except Mac or Trek. So near the top of page 31 at 1:15 EDT, this is the VC
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Day 2 VC on 9/29/26 at ~0115 EDT

pyxxy (1) - Scotty
Trek (2) - Jess, gims
leetic (4) - Vivax, Trek, Epig, DM
Mac (5) - pyxxy, Michelle, Spurs, Tranq, nutella
gims (2) -leetic, Mac
jess (1) - dubz


15/19

Leading: Mac
Missing: DrWilgy , Long Con , Porscha , RondoDimBuckle

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~3.75h)
Scotty then pops in to bring the Trek wagon up--not that Scotty needs much more town cred, but this is an excellent look for Scotty, as there is absolutely no reason for a packmate to do this here. Wilgy then follows, and then Porscha. Then leetic. All 4 votes are in rapid succession. Hard to say much about leetic since they were almost certainly self-prezzing. I'd need to go back and look at Porscha's prior reads on Trek (at least on this page she seems somewhat skeptical of Trek) but if I were to consider a bus on the Trek wagon I'd start with her just based on the timing. At 0215 EDT maybe a third of the way down page 31 this is the VC:
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Day 2 VC on 9/29/26 at ~0215 EDT

Trek (6) - Jess, gims, Scotty, Wilgy, Porscha, leetic
leetic (4) - Vivax, Trek, Epig, DM
Mac (5) - pyxxy, Michelle, Spurs, Tranq, nutella
gims (1) -Mac
jess (1) - dubz


17/19

Leading: Trek
Missing: Long Con , RondoDimBuckle

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~2.75h)
Mac moves from gims to Rondo when prompted to vote, and Rondo votes mac in response. Per Michelle's VC, apparently Tranq moved to leetic from Mac at some point.
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Day 2 VC on 9/29/26 at ~0300 EDT

Trek (6) - Jess, gims, Scotty, Wilgy, Porscha, leetic
leetic (5) - Vivax, Trek, Epig, DM, Tranq
Mac (5) - pyxxy, Michelle, Spurs, nutella, Rondo
jess (1) - dubz
Rondo (1) - Mac


18/19

Leading: Trek
Missing: Long Con

Vote close on 9/29/26 at 0500 EDT (~2h)
After Michelle pushes hard Mac gives reads, and Michelle moves to Trek. Apparently Tranq moved from leetic to Trek at some point prior to the EOD
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Final Day 2 VC

Trek (8) - Jess, gims, Scotty, Wilgy, Porscha, leetic, Michelle, Tranq
leetic (4) - Vivax, Trek, Epig, DM
Mac (4) - pyxxy, Spurs, nutella, Rondo
jess (1) - dubz
Rondo (1) - Mac


18/19

Leading: Trek
Missing: Long Con
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:55 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:52 pm eah, and I don't find those top two guys especially towny lol. Like, you believe you can read Rondo and Mac so well by "tone" that they get to be crossed in your list above despite being wrong on everything that actually matters in the game which is the votes, and nutella who nailed a wolf day 1 is uncrossed? It's just weird to me and not how I approach narrowing the POE and associative reads.

If you don't want to take my word for it on dubz I can't blame you, but nutella and Wilgy I really encourage anyone to review the VC at the time nutella and Wilgy cast their votes. They felt pivoltal at the time, and still do on re-read, IMO. While bussing is a thing I wouldn't just assume they are based on tone.
mac is doing the towny thing of going after players no one scumreads

rondo is doing the towny thing of being unapologetically antitown

I guess those are some takes of all time to make lol but its how im reading these 2

I think mac and rondo are potentially going after scum now at any rate
Fair enough on those two. I would posit that nutella and Wilgy are doing the towny thing of killing wolves :)

I'm still probably at leetic for tomorrow
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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can leetic/dubz be a solve?
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY THREE]

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Updated D3 spoiled VC progression. The one thing I'd forgotten is that pyxxy briefly joined Wilgy on the Epi wagon, which could be relevant if you don't think pyxxy is the president.
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 9:39 am Day 3 VC on 9/30/26 at 0930 EDT

leetic (1) - gims
Long Con (1) - DM
pyxxy (3) - Tranq, Spurs, Scotty


5/17

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: More than 2/3

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~43h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 6:08 pm Day 3 VC on 9/30/26 at 1800 EDT

leetic (1) - gims
Long Con (3) - DM, Mac, nutella
pyxxy (3) - Tranq, Spurs, Scotty
dubz (1) -pyxxy


8/17

Leading: pyxxy and Long Con
Missing: Just over half

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~34h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Wed Sep 30, 2026 10:25 pm Day 3 VC on 9/30/26 at 2230 EDT

Long Con (4) - DM, Mac, nutella, dubz
pyxxy (5) - Tranq, Spurs, Scotty, Epig, gims
dubz (1) -pyxxy


10/17

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Just under half

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~30h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 6:33 am Day 3 VC on 10//26 at 0630 EDT

Long Con (4) - DM, Mac, nutella, dubz
pyxxy (5) - Tranq, Spurs, Scotty, Epig, gims
dubz (1) -pyxxy
Nutella (1) - Rondo
Epig (1) - Wilgy


12/17

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Jess, leetic, Long Con, Michelle, Porsche

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~22h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 2:38 pm Day 3 VC on 10//26 at 1430 EDT

Long Con (5) - DM, Mac, nutella, dubz, Spurs
pyxxy (5) - Tranq, Scotty, Epig, gims, Michelle
dubz (1) -pyxxy
Nutella (1) - Rondo
Epig (1) - Wilgy


13/17

Leading: pyxxy and Long Con
Missing: Jess, leetic, Long Con, Porsche

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~14h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 9:53 pm Rondo unvoted

Day 3 VC on 10//26 at 2200EDT

Long Con (5) - DM, Mac, nutella, dubz, Spurs
pyxxy (5) - Tranq, Scotty, Epig, gims, Michelle
Epig (2) - Wilgy, pyxxy


12/17

Leading: pyxxy and Long Con
Missing: Jess, leetic, Long Con, Porsche, Rondo

Vote closes on 10/2/26 at 0430 EDT (~6.5h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 7:50 am No exciting EOD vote movement this time. pyxxy self-prez'd off of epig onto LC, leetic voted pyxxy making a tie, and Tranq moved from pyxxy onto LC to break the tie.

Final Day 3 VC

Long Con (7) - DM, Mac, nutella, dubz, Spurs, pyxxy, Tranq
pyxxy (5) - Scotty, Epig, gims, Michelle, leetic
Epig (1) - Wilgy


13/17

Leading: pyxxy and Long Con
Missing: Jess, Long Con, Porsche, Rondo
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tranq can bitch and moan about pyxxy not being president cuz "how would he know he wasn't rb'd" but if you don't have a night action, then yeah, you aren't getting roleblocked at night. lol

like even if he technically did, he may be entirely unaware, and his ability is not roleblocked regardless
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obviously nobody can claim or not claim a role so it's relatively moot but I'm not falling for that argument lol. I had already previously yesterday called out that someone who doesn't have an ability to get roleblocked may not know they are targeted by a roleblock
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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:06 pm tranq can bitch and moan about pyxxy not being president cuz "how would he know he wasn't rb'd" but if you don't have a night action, then yeah, you aren't getting roleblocked at night. lol

like even if he technically did, he may be entirely unaware, and his ability is not roleblocked regardless
Ha. That is a fair interpretation of that
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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?
Maybe. You have to accept that dubZ bussed leetic d1 when there was a reasonable chance of leetic going over, then bussed LC day 2 and 3.
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does anybody off the top of their heads recall like, any good pushes tranq has made? unsure if i'm being biased in only recalling his michelle push (which I deemed poor in value) & now this pyxxy push lol (which I am deeming poor in value)
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:09 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?
Maybe. You have to accept that dubZ bussed leetic d1 when there was a reasonable chance of leetic going over, then bussed LC day 2 and 3.
no reason to not bus LC any day pretty much lol
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:09 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?
Maybe. You have to accept that dubZ bussed leetic d1 when there was a reasonable chance of leetic going over, then bussed LC day 2 and 3.
okay I agree that 'spurs is town so imma sheep and disappear' post from dubz sounds a little un-pairing (also quite scummy)

now the second and third questions

can leetic/wilgy be a solve? and... can dubz/wilgy be a solve?

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I do still maintain wilgy is unlikely to bus if he isn't gonna use that cred to play and influence the game, but I can't necessarily defend the 5 posts I've seen him make since day 2 lol
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I wouldnt flip wilgy before leetic probably? lol
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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:10 pm does anybody off the top of their heads recall like, any good pushes tranq has made? unsure if i'm being biased in only recalling his michelle push (which I deemed poor in value) & now this pyxxy push lol (which I am deeming poor in value)
No, I think they were last or almost last on all of the wolf wagons
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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:15 pm I wouldnt flip wilgy before leetic probably? lol
+1 on this

gims I think there is a real chance you have a blind spot on Mac or Rondo, or we all have a blind spot on someone like Scotty or jess.
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT FOUR]

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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:40 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm
gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for
This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.
everyone but rondo and mac pushed for flipped scum

so we have to keep this in mind, there's been bussing, there's been 'decisive' votes

I'm not saying wilgy is scum, I'm saying that other than voting scum his posts aren't towny

same for dubz, I didn't find her towny while re-reading. some posts are good but easy for scum to write. some takes are quite confusing.

for wilgy, there's a tonal gap between this and his town games, I think. scum wilgy is more serious and he is being serious. the same goes for nutella re: tonal gap.

*gasp*

I should study.
I do think it is important at this point as to *how* everyone pushed the scum they did.

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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [DAY TWO]

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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:23 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:16 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?
BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:
NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm
Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm
Disagree, that kind of statement is +town
Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.
This is a weird aside
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.
Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.
Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest
@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?

And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.
This entire post still stands, then I figured he had info on Epi, hence the cryptic way he’s been nosediving there. But alas, that is not the case. Additionally, Epi hinting and Nutella attempting to veto that based on info (regardless of Nutella’s alignment) pulled me from thinking Epi was the right vote.
It's very possible I'm just dumb, but why are you weighing his treatment on Epi more strongly than his treatment of Nicole/Trek? I agree with your, his votes on Nicole and Trek given the vote counts at the time seemed pretty towny.
Leetic wasn’t really in my top of my POE, actually. I don’t even remember talking about him, did i? If I had an order he would have been maybe 5th or 6th. I voted there because I was moving with the flow and I don’t have a great reason to town read him, but don’t have a strong reason to scum read him either.
That is fair enough. I was mostly talking about the vote for leetic
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DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night
He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:17 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:15 pm I wouldnt flip wilgy before leetic probably? lol
+1 on this

gims I think there is a real chance you have a blind spot on Mac or Rondo, or we all have a blind spot on someone like Scotty or jess.
nah I agree with gims (who agrees with me. ouroboros) that rondo is town

I think I saw like, the mac town feelies so I'm not inclined there

maybe scotterz like nutella said, but I probably wont worry about it until like after leetic dies lol
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]

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Day 4 vote progression. I'm going to just put Wilgy in the main VC, cuz I'm going to assume their intent was to vote Epi and that's what matters now.
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 7:48 am Day 4 VC at 0745 EDT

pyxxy (2) - Tranq, Spurs

2/15

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Rondo and friends

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~45h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:21 am Day 4 VC on 10/3/26 at 0920 EDT

pyxxy (2) - Tranq, Spurs
Epi (2) - Scotty, pyxxy

4/15

Leading: Players with votes
Missing: Rondo and a couple less friends

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~44h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 1:04 pm Day 4 VC on 10/3/26 at 1300 EDT

pyxxy (3) - Tranq, Spurs, gims
Epi (3) - Scotty, pyxxy, nutella

6/15

Leading: Players with votes
Missing: Rondo and a little more than half

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~40h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 8:26 pm Day 4 VC on 10/3/26 at 2030EDT

pyxxy (2) - Tranq, Spurs
Epi (6) - Scotty, pyxxy, nutella, DM, gims, Wilgy

8/15

Leading: Epi
Missing: Rondo and a little less than half

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~32.5h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 11:08 pm Day 4 VC on 10/3/26 at 2300 EDT

pyxxy (5) - Tranq, Spurs, Nutella, gims, Scotty
Epi (3) - pyxxy, DM, Wilgy
Tranq () -
Wilgy (1) - Epi

9/15

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Rondo and a third

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~30h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 7:54 am Day 4 VC on 10/4/26 at 0800EDT

pyxxy (4) - Tranq, Spurs, Nutella, Scotty
Epi (3) - pyxxy, DM, Wilgy
Tranq () -
Wilgy (1) - Epi
nutella () -
leetic (2) - gims, Mac

10/15

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Rondo, dubz, Porscha, jess, leetic

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (~21h)
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 9:33 pm
Day 4 VC on 10/4/26 at 2133EDT

pyxxy (8) - Tranq, Spurs, Nutella, gims, Epi, Scotty, leetic, Porscha
Epi (4) - pyxxy, DM, jess, Wilgy
Tranq () -
Wilgy () -
nutella () -
leetic (1) - Mac

13/15

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: Rondo, dubz

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (3 minutes less than 7.5h)
Then the following updates:

Rondo briefly votes Scotty, then moves to pyxxy. gims starts a shift to leetic which is followed by me, nut, dubz ( @gims this is further unpairing from the dubz/leetic world you asked about), and jess in literally 10 minutes.
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Day 4 VC on 10/4/26 at 2300EDT

pyxxy (6) - Tranq, Epi, Scotty, leetic, Porscha, Rondo
Epi (3) - pyxxy, DM, Wilgy
Tranq () -
Wilgy () -
nutella () -
leetic (6) - Mac, gims, Spurs, nutella, dubz, jess
Scotty () -

15/15

Leading: pyxxy and leetic
Missing: None

Vote close on 10/5/26 at 0500 EDT (6h)
DM breaks the tie towards pyxxy about 20 minutes later, and dubz and I move back. Rondo moves back near the end (aiming to get a +1 VC) to bring the final VC
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Final Day 4 VC

pyxxy (8) - Tranq, Epi, Scotty, leetic, Porscha, DM, Spurs, dubz
Epi (2) - pyxxy, Wilgy
Tranq () -
Wilgy () -
nutella () -
leetic (5) - Mac, gims, nutella, jess, Rondo
Scotty () -

15/15

Leading: pyxxy
Missing: None
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Re: WORLD TOUR MAFIA II: JAPAN [NIGHT THREE]

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Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 6:50 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 6:32 am If pyxxy is town though, an origami-shaped eye goes to Scotty for these posts here:
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 7:24 am
Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 5:49 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 5:37 am Tranq is either gluing down his human mask over his wolf body or he’s just straight town with the breaking of the tie. I want to believe he is just town for that.
Do you know pyxxy's alignment?
Did you know that 7-11 is a Japanese company?

It makes sense if you think about it
The initial post could be TMI on pyxxy being town. The reply to my post is just ignoring the red lights while crossing the street.
PIYO PIYO

I have seen pyxxy on the street a time before and I must admit (I admit many people, usually every 30 seconds) I do not know his alignment.

My comment was more in line with the binary thinking of you breaking the tie on a confirmed mafia for bussing purposes, and wasn’t thinking of pyxxy in this equation.

But now that you mention it, I do see how that could be perceived as TMI

but rest assured, I have no extra information, just the colors of my signage and the gentle chirp of my mechanism
inb4 tranq gets nk'd lol
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tranq so towny
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scotty had a strong and very believable push against trekkie early on in the game and I never looked back
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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:49 pm scotty had a strong and very believable push against trekkie early on in the game and I never looked back
My plan worked perfectly :grin:

No but I would expect Trekkie to be the one the teammate bussed. Less so Nicole (even tho her role would have worked as such)
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What the HELL is this game

Since apparently we ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM THINGS AFTER ALL DESPITE THE RULES I'm just gonna say that I think either pyxxy or Wilgy make plenty of sense as president there, which SHOULD be something that we're not allowed to say because it's claiming not to be something but hey everyone else is doing it!!

Now you all stop being daft and throwing sus at Scotty, who's been 50x townier than nutella who has never felt terribly towny even right after the Nicole flip

And please fucking shoot me tonight so I don't have to deal with this game anymore
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yay readslist I love readslists I make these aaalll the time. everybody knows me as the readslist guy.

michelle (michelle)
rondo (rondo)
vivax (vivax)
wow its almost like rondo is dead

pyxxy (great leader)
nutella (nutella)
DM (duelist mirage)
spurs (gsg)
gims (smig)

scotty (streelight)
jess (gay)
mac (australian)

(tranq
wilgy
dubz
leetic)
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Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:22 pm What the HELL is this game

Since apparently we ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM THINGS AFTER ALL DESPITE THE RULES I'm just gonna say that I think either pyxxy or Wilgy make plenty of sense as president there, which SHOULD be something that we're not allowed to say because it's claiming not to be something but hey everyone else is doing it!!

Now you all stop being daft and throwing sus at Scotty, who's been 50x townier than nutella who has never felt terribly towny even right after the Nicole flip

And please fucking shoot me tonight so I don't have to deal with this game anymore
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Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:23 pm(tranq
disagree so we share the same POE except the part I disagree

thats great, really. I think we got this.
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fun fact: if its dubz/wilgy/leetic but its not dubz/leetic, we should kill wilgy
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Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:21 pm Because this:
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night
He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose
OK, but why is voting and dipping inherently scummy in your eyes from Wilgy?

Like, your POE is just the two least active alive players. Do you generally find Wilgy's activity to AI? Do you think all of the wolves are just rolling over and playing possum and hoping the town eats itself alive?
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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:26 pm fun fact: if its dubz/wilgy/leetic but its not dubz/leetic, we should kill wilgy
Your POE is just the three least active alive players.

Which, could be true. I'm just saying, there is a weird bias in this thread to give players a pass if they've been active (but wrong), yet players who have been right but less active are getting side-eye.
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Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?
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leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?
derpclear denied. I posted what happened like literally 2 posts after Golden's mod communication
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What I would not give for reliable childcare, and/or family where I live.
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Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:59 pm What I would not give for reliable childcare, and/or family where I live.
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GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?
derpclear denied. I posted what happened like literally 2 posts after Golden's mod communication
I just ISO'd Golden to find the post but whatever
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leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:12 pm
GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:42 pm
leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?
derpclear denied. I posted what happened like literally 2 posts after Golden's mod communication
I just ISO'd Golden to find the post but whatever
Sorry. I'm having a bad day.

Anyways no, pyxxy is either mechanically clear or someone else used the president ability
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gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:48 pm I thought dubz' defense on nutella last gameday, against DM, was pretty scummy

not that it was incorrect. its probably correct. but it felt like TMI. it felt like dubz has town!nutella as a given. only townies would get paranoid about her/poking her at that stage in the game. for wolves, its easy to just shrug that slot as town and focus on whatever is incorrect in POE.
yea i also was lightly pinged by this post at the time:
Dubz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 10:51 pm Why, as I'm reading backwards, are DM and gims acting like nutella isn't one of the clearest people here lmao

As far as I can tell the game is not off the rails enough for us to be poking at people who should be in the towncore, unless I missed something major

SKREEEE— ahem. Legally distinct rawr.
because i agree that nutella is proly town but the language was decisive in a way that maybe clashes awkwardly relative to dubz lack of engagement, like a read that can stem from a position of TMI
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