The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:16 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:15 pm
Being able to shamelessly exist in the state where Epi's posting does not seem good but also pushing him for it does not seem good, because his alignment is unknown

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine

This is a good post

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.

Sukide wa arimasen

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:

NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:32 pm

Admittedly, this post doesn't look good either. Just say you'll be unavailable, no need to LARP about how the wolves would totally be destroyed right now if you were around

Disagree, that kind of statement is +town

Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.

This is a weird aside

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.

Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.

Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest

@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?

And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.

This entire post still stands, then I figured he had info on Epi, hence the cryptic way he’s been nosediving there. But alas, that is not the case. Additionally, Epi hinting and Nutella attempting to veto that based on info (regardless of Nutella’s alignment) pulled me from thinking Epi was the right vote.

Leetic wasn’t really in my top of my POE, actually. I don’t even remember talking about him, did i? If I had an order he would have been maybe 5th or 6th. I voted there because I was moving with the flow and I don’t have a great reason to town read him, but don’t have a strong reason to scum read him either.

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for

This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:40 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for

This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.

everyone but rondo and mac pushed for flipped scum

so we have to keep this in mind, there's been bussing, there's been 'decisive' votes

I'm not saying wilgy is scum, I'm saying that other than voting scum his posts aren't towny

same for dubz, I didn't find her towny while re-reading. some posts are good but easy for scum to write. some takes are quite confusing.

for wilgy, there's a tonal gap between this and his town games, I think. scum wilgy is more serious and he is being serious. the same goes for nutella re: tonal gap.

*gasp*

I should study.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:52 pm eah, and I don't find those top two guys especially towny lol. Like, you believe you can read Rondo and Mac so well by "tone" that they get to be crossed in your list above despite being wrong on everything that actually matters in the game which is the votes, and nutella who nailed a wolf day 1 is uncrossed? It's just weird to me and not how I approach narrowing the POE and associative reads.

If you don't want to take my word for it on dubz I can't blame you, but nutella and Wilgy I really encourage anyone to review the VC at the time nutella and Wilgy cast their votes. They felt pivoltal at the time, and still do on re-read, IMO. While bussing is a thing I wouldn't just assume they are based on tone.

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:55 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:52 pm eah, and I don't find those top two guys especially towny lol. Like, you believe you can read Rondo and Mac so well by "tone" that they get to be crossed in your list above despite being wrong on everything that actually matters in the game which is the votes, and nutella who nailed a wolf day 1 is uncrossed? It's just weird to me and not how I approach narrowing the POE and associative reads.

If you don't want to take my word for it on dubz I can't blame you, but nutella and Wilgy I really encourage anyone to review the VC at the time nutella and Wilgy cast their votes. They felt pivoltal at the time, and still do on re-read, IMO. While bussing is a thing I wouldn't just assume they are based on tone.

mac is doing the towny thing of going after players no one scumreads

rondo is doing the towny thing of being unapologetically antitown

I guess those are some takes of all time to make lol but its how im reading these 2

I think mac and rondo are potentially going after scum now at any rate

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:06 pm tranq can bitch and moan about pyxxy not being president cuz "how would he know he wasn't rb'd" but if you don't have a night action, then yeah, you aren't getting roleblocked at night. lol

like even if he technically did, he may be entirely unaware, and his ability is not roleblocked regardless

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:09 pm

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?

Maybe. You have to accept that dubZ bussed leetic d1 when there was a reasonable chance of leetic going over, then bussed LC day 2 and 3.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:09 pm

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:59 pm can leetic/dubz be a solve?

Maybe. You have to accept that dubZ bussed leetic d1 when there was a reasonable chance of leetic going over, then bussed LC day 2 and 3.

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:10 pm does anybody off the top of their heads recall like, any good pushes tranq has made? unsure if i'm being biased in only recalling his michelle push (which I deemed poor in value) & now this pyxxy push lol (which I am deeming poor in value)

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:15 pm I wouldnt flip wilgy before leetic probably? lol

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:40 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:36 pm

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:28 pm there's nothing to townread wilgy for

This is such a strange take to me. It doesn't seem like you're alone in it, but I cannot fathom voting a player who cast a pretty decisive vote for the first two wolves who flipped before at least flipping one of the players who have yet to play a major role in voting a correct wagon (or in some cases, vote a correct wagon at all)

But clearly I just have a very different approach to the game than several of you.

everyone but rondo and mac pushed for flipped scum

so we have to keep this in mind, there's been bussing, there's been 'decisive' votes

I'm not saying wilgy is scum, I'm saying that other than voting scum his posts aren't towny

same for dubz, I didn't find her towny while re-reading. some posts are good but easy for scum to write. some takes are quite confusing.

for wilgy, there's a tonal gap between this and his town games, I think. scum wilgy is more serious and he is being serious. the same goes for nutella re: tonal gap.

*gasp*

I should study.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:23 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:16 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 1:09 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 9:03 am NO CROSSING WHILE I TAKE A LOOK ON THE INTERWEBS (the local transit authority installed smart technology. Now I’m “smart” haha PIYO PIYO

Looking at DrWilgy’s interactions with the flipped wolves:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:30 am

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 10:12 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 9:45 pm

Isn't everyone's alignment unknown?

BEEP. BEEP. BEEP. BEEP.

Oh! Oh my. One moment, please. The Perspective Discrepancy Module has never actually done that before.

"Because his alignment is unknown."

Interesting choice of words, Duelist. Unknown to whom, exactly? From a Town perspective, everyone's alignment is unknown. But you seem to be separating Epi into a particular category of player whose alignment you don't know.

[VOTE: duelist] aubergine

This is a good post

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:32 am Please be aware, we will not be stopping at Long Con.

LC is currently top TR.

Note this is not an error in spite of it being weird.

Sukide wa arimasen

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 2:59 am Nicole's ISO is very meh.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:02 am What stood out to me is that Nicole seemed to argue the same post I disliked here:

NicoleAndDime wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 9:25 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Thu Sep 24, 2026 8:50 pm
Disagree, that kind of statement is +town

Its neutral but I don't feel great about leetic going after it.

I don't like that there's VERY little reasoning in the ISO. What reasoning there is is flimsy and had to be coerced by other players.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:03 am Yuck, the voters on Nicole's wagon have too many posts for me to skim there and get a vibe.

This is a weird aside

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2026 3:07 am [VOTE: Nicole] aubergine

This is fine.

I'm going to sleep. Will probably regret not voting Rondo here, but at least Nicole seems to have tension with both Leetic and DM.

Now departing. Please clear the doors.

Probably the towniest context in the game for Wilgy, as according to my vote tally, he broke the tie and made it 4/3 for Nicole over DM. The voters at the time were Vivax/Spurs/nutella, which is a weird comment because at least Vivax and Nutella didn’t have a huge iso for him to comb through to get a ‘vibe’. But he comes to Nicole apparently on his own, so hmm. The most AO ‘you can walk’ of his behavior this game, but it ISNT clearing the crosswalk.

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2026 1:58 am Skimmed Mac as lead wagon, Trekkie and Epi on vibes.

[VOTE: Trekkie] aubergine

Epi v Tranq kerfuffle is interesting.
Tranq brought up the concern brewing in my head on Epi, which was an Epi vote on DM into 'hey vote DM with me' towards me would've put DM over Nicole. Epi's rebuttal felt good enough though.

Trekkie stood out to me as one of the people potentially TMIing my catchup. It was like Mac/Trekkie and someone else? Trekkie's just stood out to me. The skim there didn't garner any confidence, so this seems like a fine vote.

Mac's stance on Spurs doesn't *FEEL* like something Mafia would do right after losing a teammate. Mac's ISO is quite goofy, but at least there's that point.

If there was a bus on Nicole, it was likely just Tranq? Nicole was actually the first to 3 votes based on Spurs tallies, Nicole being the 1 in 4 on the related wagon just makes me think it was mostly clean. I'll review that later I guess.

Good look crossing the street here. The difference in this vote vs Nicole’s is the votes were 5 mac/ 5 leetic / 3 trekkie during this vote. So he would bring trekkie closer before going to bed. He probably couldn’t have known Trekkie would then swing to 6 votes right after. But I take it back, this is a really towny vote. He even keeps his progression on the lead wagons (Mac and Epi) consistently defensive, when he could have just lumped onto a lead wagon. (Of course this changes if Epi/mac is a wolf, because he chose one wolf over another and it loses its muster)


Pops in and votes Epi on ‘vibes’ yesterday. Nothing to go on there.

At first glance, Wilgy is walking. He could easily be a deep wolf, but it’s such an unnecessary bussing he did on his two partners Nicole and Trekkie that it feels like a stretch. Especially as he isn’t attempting to boast about his cred as such. But I can see it.

Kinda just want to see Epi/pyxxy go first. Would like to flip Epi because that has some associating interest

@Scotty why did your read on Wilgy change from this prior read where you felt the prior interactions were unnecessary with his two partners? I get that apparently he doesn't have the role you thought he had, but how does that change the logic you laid out above?

And what happened to leetic being a top POE for you when you were voting for him yesterday morning? I don't see how anything that has happened in the last 24 hours should have changed your opinion on leetic.

This entire post still stands, then I figured he had info on Epi, hence the cryptic way he’s been nosediving there. But alas, that is not the case. Additionally, Epi hinting and Nutella attempting to veto that based on info (regardless of Nutella’s alignment) pulled me from thinking Epi was the right vote.

It's very possible I'm just dumb, but why are you weighing his treatment on Epi more strongly than his treatment of Nicole/Trek? I agree with your, his votes on Nicole and Trek given the vote counts at the time seemed pretty towny.

Leetic wasn’t really in my top of my POE, actually. I don’t even remember talking about him, did i? If I had an order he would have been maybe 5th or 6th. I voted there because I was moving with the flow and I don’t have a great reason to town read him, but don’t have a strong reason to scum read him either.

That is fair enough. I was mostly talking about the vote for leetic

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:17 pm

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:15 pm I wouldnt flip wilgy before leetic probably? lol

+1 on this

gims I think there is a real chance you have a blind spot on Mac or Rondo, or we all have a blind spot on someone like Scotty or jess.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 6:50 am

Tranq wrote: ↑Sat Oct 03, 2026 6:32 am If pyxxy is town though, an origami-shaped eye goes to Scotty for these posts here:

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 7:24 am

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 5:49 am

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2026 5:37 am Tranq is either gluing down his human mask over his wolf body or he’s just straight town with the breaking of the tie. I want to believe he is just town for that.

Do you know pyxxy's alignment?

Did you know that 7-11 is a Japanese company?

It makes sense if you think about it

The initial post could be TMI on pyxxy being town. The reply to my post is just ignoring the red lights while crossing the street.

PIYO PIYO

I have seen pyxxy on the street a time before and I must admit (I admit many people, usually every 30 seconds) I do not know his alignment.

My comment was more in line with the binary thinking of you breaking the tie on a confirmed mafia for bussing purposes, and wasn’t thinking of pyxxy in this equation.

But now that you mention it, I do see how that could be perceived as TMI

but rest assured, I have no extra information, just the colors of my signage and the gentle chirp of my mechanism

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:49 pm scotty had a strong and very believable push against trekkie early on in the game and I never looked back

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:22 pm What the HELL is this game

Since apparently we ARE ALLOWED TO CLAIM THINGS AFTER ALL DESPITE THE RULES I'm just gonna say that I think either pyxxy or Wilgy make plenty of sense as president there, which SHOULD be something that we're not allowed to say because it's claiming not to be something but hey everyone else is doing it!!

Now you all stop being daft and throwing sus at Scotty, who's been 50x townier than nutella who has never felt terribly towny even right after the Nicole flip

And please fucking shoot me tonight so I don't have to deal with this game anymore

Porscha wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:23 pm(tranq

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 2:21 pm Because this:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amsup

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 am [VOTE: Epi] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Oct 01, 2026 12:16 amgood night

He did both Day 3 and Day 4. That’s dripping with purpose

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:26 pm fun fact: if its dubz/wilgy/leetic but its not dubz/leetic, we should kill wilgy

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?

Scotty wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:35 pm Hi it’s me again

I entreat everyone to reread Dubz’ ISO with the knowledge that pyxxy is probably president and Epi is good. She is my top scum read with Wilgy. Here’s why:

D1- no mention of Nicole. Lost a wolf.
D2- suspicion of LC, votes there at top of day for feeling ‘stretchy’. This is the perfect place to vote a teammate that has no heat, as it will most certainly change and it’s a weak case, but can be used as a placeholder for cred later if need be.
She then gives reads where trekkie is a suspicion, and also Jess, but settles on Jess. Isn’t actually part of the trekkie wagon or build up there. Loses another packmate
D3- votes LC again, with this quote: “I see people are interested in LC today! Maybe I can redeem myself!” Vote was 3-3 pyxxy-LC so doing this would be prime cred opportunity at this point in the wolf game. Especially because she already voted there the day prior (even though she didn’t end there..)

There are other intangibles with this read but tack on that Dubz hasn’t really been engaged since Trekkie died. It feels ho hum

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:59 pm What I would not give for reliable childcare, and/or family where I live.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:42 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?

derpclear denied. I posted what happened like literally 2 posts after Golden's mod communication

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 4:12 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:42 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 3:40 pm Alright, what just happened? Is the fact that pyxxy didn't die outing?

derpclear denied. I posted what happened like literally 2 posts after Golden's mod communication

I just ISO'd Golden to find the post but whatever

gims wrote: ↑Mon Oct 05, 2026 12:48 pm I thought dubz' defense on nutella last gameday, against DM, was pretty scummy

not that it was incorrect. its probably correct. but it felt like TMI. it felt like dubz has town!nutella as a given. only townies would get paranoid about her/poking her at that stage in the game. for wolves, its easy to just shrug that slot as town and focus on whatever is incorrect in POE.

Dubz wrote: ↑Sun Oct 04, 2026 10:51 pm Why, as I'm reading backwards, are DM and gims acting like nutella isn't one of the clearest people here lmao

As far as I can tell the game is not off the rails enough for us to be poking at people who should be in the towncore, unless I missed something major

SKREEEE— ahem. Legally distinct rawr.