The Syndicate

RadicalFuzz wrote:This is strange.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:Diiny, I need you to talk to me. If I have developed any ability to read Syndicate games at all yet, I'd say you're the most likely player on Day 1 to be lynched right now as a direct result of your recent content. If you're town, I need you to give me confidence of that with open and continuous dialogue. You're an asset if you're on my side, but for the moment I harbor doubts.

This and several other posts from J3 are almost literally asking Diiny to townread him. Is this common for J3, or have they worked together extremely well in the past?

RadicalFuzz wrote:Thanks? I'm concerned about how quickly you're forming your conclusions, though. I've made a few posts and, unless you're basing your opinion of me on what Reywas said or did when he was here, that's not very much information. I get that you're looking for town reads, but you're almost too hasty, it's disconcerting.

RadicalFuzz wrote:@Wilgy & J3:
What was your opinion of Reywas before he had to take his leave?

RadicalFuzz wrote:

bcornett24 wrote:
There are like 5 comments were gives people hugs. I tend to have an issue with seeing 1/8th of a persons content being "/hug". I think it makes him suspicious and would probably place him on the lighter side of orange in a revised rainbow.

I will also say I understand how difficult it is to catch up, this thread is massive and has so much content, and it keeps generating more. A lot to remember, and even more to comprehend.

As I previously stated what I gave earlier was mostly gut reads, working on analysis, diiny is up next.

With regard to JJJ:

I agree, having more posts is generally better, but this is not to say that it could not be potentially used to dissuade reads. I am not saying that JJJ is doing this, I am saying that it is possible that he could be. Strategically speaking, it is a great idea, have so many posts that nobody wants to analyze it. I mean he has 7 pages of 50 posts, this is almost 300 posts and it is only day 4.

His quirks in posting don't invalidate his other points. Do you legitimately have a problem with 7/8ths of his contribution just because the other 1/8ths is silly?

That relies on our laziness, and especially in such a large game, is an extremely risky gambit. I'm not saying that posting frequently makes him look good, just that it doesn't make him look bad. Strategically speaking it's a horrible idea, giving the opposing team more evidence to work with when information is our greatest asset.

TheFloyd73 wrote:Can someone explain to me how to play this game? I actually have no idea.

TheFloyd73 wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

TheFloyd73 wrote:I must say, I'm confused about the speculation surrounding me.

You're participating in the game by placing votes, but not really by involving yourself in the thread. Why have you voted for Elohcin?

I don't know, I can see it in their eyes (or rather... Text).
My lack of posts is from mental shit going on

TheFloyd73 wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

sig wrote:Getting accused by Epignosis can certainly be a death knell.
I will most likely be voting for Devin today but I'm starting to think a Choutus lynch might be good. This is mainly based around his comments about the SK. I also would like to hear some more from Diiny he has gone off the radar completely.

Getting accused by anyone can be a death knell. The right accusation, the right time, nobody is ever safe in Mafia.

Agreed.

TheFloyd73 wrote:Can I call you Triple J now on?

espers wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote: Seaside was the most active poster and asked a ton of questions.

Interesting. I don't think he posted once yet in the main game.

he's currently at the nrl grand final down in sydney, he mentioned this in the day 0 thread.

one thing that might be of note: he asked strawhenge if he had any special abilities in that thread. i asked him about it and he appeared not to know about the infodumping rules (or any of what was mentioned in the first posts of the signup thread)

choutas replied to this exchange, saying that scumslips weren't very common and that seaside's original question read to him as frivolous/banter. that seemed a bit incongruous to me, i'd like choutas to explain it. i might be misremembering the particulars though, wish i could look back over it

espers wrote:

thellama73 wrote:Question for the group:
Was Bea's reaction to one early, changeable vote an overreaction or an appropriate reaction?
Discuss.

Current track: Brian Eno - Sparrowfall (3) (1:24)

i read it as more of a reaction to the reasoning behind the vote than the fact of the vote itself, so on that level it didn't seem like an overreaction.

i am curious about why you'd want to broadcast a leading question like this into the thread without espousing your own position, though.

espers wrote:

espers wrote:

seaside wrote: 2. Lynch Mac for having it all worked Putin day 0 but not doing a thing to help town in ANY way but to boast. I reakon he is the rogue.

what makes you think he's the rogue? wouldn't he be more likely to be mafia if he's anti-town?

this is reminding me overwhelmingly of when osokoi/longford made a similarly inexplicable rogue read on a player in rym 87, and he was mafia.

voting seaside

espers wrote:

MacDougall wrote:Can I point out that there is a player out there with this scum role.

"(Nothing But) Flowers – Can't get used to the lifestyle brought about by the new players. Its vote is worth x3 against players from the opposite forum. It cannot be harmed by night powers used by players from the same forum. If it carries out the kill, it cannot kill players from the same forum."

it's worth noting that if that player is voting now, they're probably voting someone from the same forum to avoid drawing attention on the tally, since there are no other vote manipulation things going on at this point iirc.

changing my vote to russ to make things interesting. i won't be back on till after deadline, at which point i'll have more to say about jjj and llama.

espers wrote:looking through jay's history in an attempt at a read and i'm not really sure i'm seeing the same things i was before. going to have to reevaluate, maybe i'll sleep on it.

gotta love procrastination.

espers wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Devin the Omniscient wrote:So JJJ, Why do you think lynching Sorsha is a mistake?

I wouldn't use such strong language as "it's a mistake" quite yet, but I am beginning to doubt the case against her. I feel her content reflects her explanation of that content very acutely, and in a way that isn't easy to simply read-and-report. I also think she has done a nice job of answering questions with believable and meaningful content -- I am reminded of my earlier conversations with sig who I'd suspected and more recently began to trust.

There's also the fact that 7 votes poured onto Sorsha without a hint of resistance.

What are your current misgivings about Sorsha in light of the defenses she has provided most recently in response to my queries?

what kind of resistance would you expect to see if she's town? or are you implying you think there's scum involvement on her wagon?

espers wrote:

RadicalFuzz wrote:Disclaimer: While I have subbed in, I will be unavailable for the most part until either Sunday night or Monday morning. I have a little time in between, but I imagine most of that will be catching up. Just keep that in mind, whether you decide to lynch me or leave me be until I get caught up.

why are you worried about being lynched so soon after replacing in?

espers wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:snip

not a fan of posts like this. it's a whole bunch of nice-looking content without making any organic stances. this isn't the sort of game that can be solved with algorithms.

i don't say that vote analysis like this can't be worthwhile but here wilgy seems to use it as a crutch in lieu of "traditional" scumhunting, as evinced by his vote for golden without other reasoning. avoiding accountability while putting forth a supertown facade.

sorry for relatively flowery language, one of those moods i guess

espers wrote:has jjj ever complained of mafia burnout/tiredness inhibiting his ability to play before?

espers wrote:voting sorsha

don't like some of the later votes on the devin wagon and straw's sorsha case was pretty compelling /piggybacking

no slight against the ppl defending sorsha, but you were wrong about lc, why should we believe you now?